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It has turned out to be a good one with no rust in any seams and little to no damage.
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I repaired a few areas on the floor and straightened out any sections of the seam that had been damaged by poor jacking practices.
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While they were away I stripped the steering rack, cleaned it up and replaced both bearings.
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Once the fenders were fixed and fitted pretty well I drilled out the spot welds and replaced the front turn signal buckets
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Not sure if the pictures tell the story but I removed the old angle iron pieces and repaired the base metal and then welded on the correct consoles and also reinforced them.
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I thought I would share a bit of a photo essay of my restoration.
Technically I guess it's more of a resto mod because I don't want to be constrained by correctness.
The aim is to do everything on my own in my shed in about a year.
Rethinking that, some things like machining, and as its turned out paint removal will be farmed out.
The car was originally delivered into Perth in late 1965 and purchased by me from Melbourne in pieces about 18 months ago.
It had already had a 2.2L six cylinder installed and was early enough to be a Porsche built 3 Gauge painted dash model.
It is the 696th 912 to roll off the line.
Pics below show the trip home from Melbourne to Adelaide and the bits and pieces laid out.
Since most of the panels on these early cars are stamped with the body number I was keen to repair and keep them all.
Although I did source some brand new front guards from Porsche Germany just as back up.
Below shows a bit of the details involved with saving the old ones.
Firstly the flange that bolts up to the body was rusted away.
Also the complete last section of the guards back towards the doors where it is double thickness was dodgy.
I used two later model guards as donors and cut off the fender joining lip and grafted it onto mine.
Next I cut a vertical line down through the donor guards to replace the rear section.
Pictures probably show it best.
It was important to have the doors on in their original position and also the bonnet to get good alignment and gaps.
Once the guards were right I drilled out the spot welds and removed the old turn signal buckets and welded in new Porsche ones.
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Once the fenders were fixed and fitted pretty well I drilled out the spot welds and replaced the front turn signal buckets
More pics to come but I mucked up by trying to put too many in one post.
Looks like you are one of one the ones that know your way around, so looking forward to observing the recreation of this 912.
Appears to have found a lucky home.
You can keep including the dog by the way.
I love dogs.
Dave
Hi, looks like a great project, I will follow with keen interest. I dont know if you have already seen this web site, its a guy that did a complete restoration on a 912, one of the best sites I have seen regarding a complete car restoration.
http://www.darrylsgarage.com/912/912.htm
Next up I had the doors chemically stripped. I left the hinges in situ and just punched out the hinge pins, I believe this will make my job easier down the track for panel alignment ec.
While they were away I stripped the steering rack, cleaned it up and replaced both bearings.
With the body on the rotisserie it was easy to see some of the problem areas.
At a minimum the car needs inner and outer sills both sides kidney bowls and jacking tubes.
The front suspension pan and fuel tank support have been replace at some stage and are solid.
Rear window corners and parcel shelf also need work.
Floors are solid although as expected for an old car it is bashed around.
I repaired a few areas on the floor and straightened out any sections of the seam that had been damaged by poor jacking practices.
It was also easy to see that two of the front cross member mounts needed replacing.
The car also had dodgy mounts for the rear sway bar which need to be cut off and replaced, this side took a lot of parent metal with it.
Some simpler repairs involving cut out make new piece and replace although the last 2 pics show a more complicated area where it is a boxed in section where three sections were cut out to effect the repair.
Time for the body to go off to be chemically stripped.
This process removes all surface coatings including body filler but doesn't touch the metal or even the rust for that matter.
It gets into every cavity and comes back bare steel.
I was taking so much metal out and not putting the new steel in yet because I knew I would be getting it dipped.
Quite a few of the areas especially sills etc. I need to rustproof after they are welded back in so doing it before dipping would not make sense.
While the shell was away I stripped the engine lid.
It has turned out to be a good one with no rust in any seams and little to no damage.
It had been forward dated so holes for later style badging had to be welded
The bonnet on the other hand was not easy and due to lots of paint layers and body filler took ages to do.
Once stripped it was obvious there was some accident damage most of which was easy to fix with some panel beating and metal shrinking.
However the front leading edge on the driver side was particularly bad and because of the reinforcing steel it was not possible to get in behind this area so I am using a stud welder and slide hammer to try to pull it back out to the correct form.
I used a profile gauge to make a template and it is still a work in progress to get it right, partly because of the strength of this old steel.
Meanwhile the shell was ready to be picked up, and just for reference 3 strong guys can lift it on and off a trailer (or 4 old geezers like me)
The worst part now is where do I start.
I am treating the bare steel with Picklex 20 a product which will protect the surface and stop corrosion for at least 12 months.
The front lower wheelhouse section, which is the section under the battery, running front to back, needs replacing.
This is the sheet metal to do the job.
Yeah Cal, the four is gone forever.
I did get serious about a Polopolous 4 cylinder, but @ $35K USD it is not possible for me.
Looks like being a 2.8 or 2.5.
I have two engines stripped down at the moment a 2.2 and a 2.7, but engine builds, even DIY are so much money.
Original chrome wheels disassembled and rechromed.
Four screw horn grilles also.
Elephant racing adjustable spring plates (SWB are non adjustable)
also titanium rear control arm bearings in place of factory rubber.
Me
Lower "a" pillar inner rocker, jacking point, kidney bowl (AKA outer rocker support) all in the process of replacement.
My version of replicating factory spot welds.
Same done on both sides.
under some zinc coating, boring for some.
Outer rockers go on and things start to take shape.
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8August, 2017
by 9er
As mentioned the body was chemically dipped in a process which only removes paint and body coatings.
Amazing that it left the original stampings that were on the steel.
Rear parcel shelf and window corners and some inner structure.
Rear metal work done.
Roof turret prepared and painted
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8August, 2017
by 9er
I discussed some of the work that had been done to the car over the years earlier in the thread.
One thing that bugged me was the dodgy rear swaybar "consoles".
Not sure if the pictures tell the story but I removed the old angle iron pieces and repaired the base metal and then welded on the correct consoles and also reinforced them.
Once this was done i was able to epoxy that part of the car and apply Gravitex for the underbody finish, which is then covered in satin black 2K
Because I had the centre tunnel nice and clean I needed to get that under colour inside and out.
Also after some minor dent repair the underneath floor needed coating.
There is still metal work to be done up front but getting bare metal under epoxy becomes a priority.
These are the pictures showing the font metalwork.
The lower sections of the inner fender.
The upper fuel tank support as well as reinforcement for the front suspension pick up points and lateral fuel tank supports.
The copper on the underside of the fuel tank support is weld through primer which I have used when applicable.
SWB cars have the extra tube which routes the headlight wiring, for me that made everything that bit harder.
Eventually finished, Iknow it looks too glossy but trust me it is satin black.
Eventually got bored with welding and grinding and just wanted to paint some shit.
The colour doesnt show up the way I like it on the monitor but again I like it.
As well as the standard seats I wanted some period sport style seats to be able to use, I like the factory optioned early sport style(elephant foot), so my buddy Zander here in Adelaide ( Boys Own Garage) who is the GTS Classics rep. was able get some made to my specs using some Merino houndstooth fabric that I had made in the UK and leather on the bolsters.
When the car is not on its original chrome steelies the plan is to run round on these 944 Turbo spacesavers, the lightest billet wheels you can get.
I have Tig welded the second valve hole and bead blasted them and then refinished in a matt alloy, I was testing out the titanium wheel nuts in the pics.
I have fitted some super sticky Avon CRzz tyres.
Early SWB style fuel tanks aren't available anymore, and my old tank was a bit suss, so I did some cosmetic mods to the newer style tank to get the look that I needed.
SWB tank spare wheel humps are covered in a tar like sheet forming what has become known as a 'sombrero' you can't buy these or even the material so I just had a go at making it look about right, and also found a good colour match for the early tank colour.
First pic is just a file photo of a preserved original car.
Front and rear suspension blasted and refinished, plated as necessary.
Some brake modifications with the fronts now Brembo units and the rear upgraded to vented rotors and modified S calipers.
Dual circuit master cylinder upgrade also.
New wheel bearings all round, quite expensive rears on SWB.
Car down on its wheels and concentrating on getting panel gaps and fitment correct.
All original panels including bumpers are on the car but I wasn't happy with the fit on the left rear, so bought a new genuine part, and have still ended up having to rework it.
New wiring harness made by Kroon in the Netherlands.
He had never made a 1965 RHD harness before.
I got a new spray gun and wanted to test it out.
I had been able to retain the factory undercoating on the underside of the bonnet and after preparing as best I could and then epoxy, I shot some colour.
The colour is a 1963 Porsche 356 colour called Oslo Blue
Some progress over the new year period.
Was able to get a loan of a paint shop for 8 Days, many thanks to Bill Grimes from Pope Crash.
Picture heavy, sorry.
The image is perhaps the best indication of the colour, shown here with my blu/black pepita fabric.
Running driving car finally.
2.55 litre motor built with all the best bits, should be good for 200hp. (dynoed @ 183 during the 'run in with very conservative timing settings.
Obviously under 24hr guard now days.
Lovely looking car mate.
I did I quick scan through your thread again to refresh, you should be proud of your work, 6 years in the making but I expect very satisfying
After seeing it a few years ago as a totally bare metal job as Chris was doing the metal work, I finally got to see it in the flesh today. Holy shit!!
It is bloody perfect
Thanks for the positive feedback on this, there is a chance that when you spend too much time on a project you will enjoy the journey more than the destination.
I am trying to not be precious with it and drive it as much as possible.
First 1000kms done and valve clearances and heads retensioned, the car was also dynoed again and we were able to further improve the driveability, looks like 200HP is not going to happen, but we will go close.
Weighed in @ 970Kgs with half a tank of premium
Looking forward to an excuse to drive it over to Melbourne
Not using as much as I had hoped, although buying two more cars and Corona haven't helped.
Just clicked over 2000 kms recently and the weather here is nice, but unless the borders open I can't see me reaching my goal of 5000kms in its first year.
Reflection from Sunday.
If you wanted to have a play, black inside with silver petals and outer rim might help break the solid starkness.......maybe too predictable for you?
I also prefer the original look rim.
