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Looking for other peoples experiences with deliveries of new cars. We are all sharing the frustration of chip shortages and now wiring loop issues due to the war, but we can also see positive news from Porsche saying they are selling a greater numbers of cars even with issues just mentioned. I ordered a Macan S last October with an expected delivery of September this year. These dates may hold firm, but dealers are very vague in saying how many allocations they get, or where you are in the queue for your car build. I see some posts for the same car where they've been ordered last November and already delivered in May this year. I do understand some people may changes their car every year or so, so they will get a priority and get pushed up the queue. Whats your experience ?

I ordered a Macan GTS in early December last year, with a relatively new dealer in the north west. I'd originally emailed a load of dealers, and this one was the one who quoted the shortest lead time - between 6 and 9 months. Others were already quoting 2023, and those from one particular dealer group didn't respond at all. The dealer I went with were quite open with what position I was in on their order list - I'd asked when ordering, and when they gave me an update a few months later. I had a provisional build date by the end of February. They seem to get an allocation of around 3 Macan GTS cars per quarter. The car is due for delivery in mid-July. It was originally mid-June, but slipped a couple of times after the Ukraine war broke out. The freeze date was the start of May, and the car is due to be built in mid-June. The freeze date moved up a few days at the last moment, but fortunately I'd made all my specification changes by then. I've not been too badly affected by component shortages. I've chosen the 18-way seats, and these no longer come with electric steering column adjustment (which I'm not bothered about). The GT-Design wheels I'd originally selected are no longer available (boo), so I've had to change the alloys too. This will be my first Porsche, so I think I've been very lucky (assuming all goes to plan).

thanks for your update. I hope things go to plan. I didn't do shopping around, but just went to my local dealer who probably take a lot of orders. My neighbour went further afield for his order as the local dealer wasn't interested in changing the tyre options, whilst the one he went to did let him change the tyres for no extra charge. I guess the lesson here is some can give more attention to customers if they're not juggling with a lot of orders.

Two examples from me. Both Macan S’s ordered from same dealership. Friend ordered his April 21, was told it would arrive by the end of the year. It arrived late Oct. 6 months from deposit to delivery. My Dad ordered his June 21, was told early 22 for delivery. By January he hadn’t even got a build slot. Issued a slot in Feb, April build for May delivery. Checked with OPC in March, no delays, build still on track. Checked again mid May, build delayed until June, with July delivery. 11 month since deposit, hopefully delivered soon…

that's disappointing in the current climate where I've seen orders in November that have been delivered in May, so there are some discrepancies out there.

I enquired recently with my local OPC who are near to Meadowhall about a new Macan S. I was told 18 months lead time

therams said: I enquired recently with my local OPC who are near to Meadowhall about a new Macan S. I was told 18 months lead time I was in there Friday Macan is q3. 2023 Macan s q3 2023 Macan gts q4 2023 They’ve offered me and the wife afternoon tea whilst speccing a gts don’t know if all the opcs do that??

Yes they were very friendly towards me too. Still 18 months ish for delivery though. I’d be bored/dead/bought 3 other cars by then!

No way would I wait 12 months for a Macan FFS

Curledge said: No way would I wait 12 months for a Macan FFS Why not

Curledge said: No way would I wait 12 months for a Macan FFS Depends where the FFS model fits into the range, is it above the GTS ?

Curledge said: No way would I wait 12 months for a Macan FFS On the assumption that you have a have a few quid, put the £3k deposit down, buy something else and then make your mind up in a year or so. The deposit is refundable prior to confirmed delivery date and in reality right up to physical delivery as in the current market the OPC would love for you to cancel (assuming it's not Miami blue with body colored wheels!). I asked about an RSQ3 and was told 9 months, it's not just Porsche.

It would be nice to hear from people who actually got a delivery this year and know when they actually put their order in. Good to build a picture up on how things have slipped from the early orders of 2021 to the later orders last year. Edited by david-hec3f on Monday 30th May 13:30

There's a lot of chatter here on that topic https://www.macanforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=18&a... In fact there are several threads running there on a similar theme

Thanks for that. A lot of orders and almost deliveries. Nice to get updates on current results.

In case useful: Placed deposit July last year. Spec locked early Nov. Car delivered mid Jan.

Ordered my Macan T is early March and collecting tomorrow. The OPC had 7 allocations to fill for April/May when I placed my deposit. I believe 2.0l cars are arriving sooner and was a key reason for me choosing the T. Was looking at a GTS originally. May still place an order when I go in tomorrow.

What is the short term depreciation like on the latest Macan S. I can get a prespecced one in about 8 weeks, but the spec is a bit light. Are these holding their values well if I try sell if/when I find something with a more desirable spec or get a factory order. Or I could buy a demonstrator with better spect at list price (ie no discount but I would be the second owner)

shopper150 said: What is the short term depreciation like on the latest Macan S. I can get a prespecced one in about 8 weeks, but the spec is a bit light. Are these holding their values well if I try sell if/when I find something with a more desirable spec or get a factory order. Or I could buy a demonstrator with better spect at list price (ie no discount but I would be the second owner) Buy what you like , it does not matter any more , 2 years from now petrol will be 3 pounds a litre to encourage to buy electric when the rates will go up per kWh Its the “illuminati” to coin an expression who will decide all So in summary just enjoy what you like .We must live every day not wait for a day to do somehthing Just an opinion Good luck what ever you decide

Porsche991992 said: Buy what you like , it does not matter any more , 2 years from now petrol will be 3 pounds a litre to encourage to buy electric when the rates will go up per kWh Its the “illuminati” to coin an expression who will decide all So in summary just enjoy what you like .We must live every day not wait for a day to do somehthing Just an opinion Good luck what ever you decide With the rate that fuel is increasing around 10p a month we will nearly be at £3 a litre by the end of the year. I took advantage of high secondhand price demand and sold my car whilst i wait for my new one (mid 2023) and bought a little vw polo run around . This now costs £75 to fill . With the ways things are going at the moment increased cost of living and the interest rate increases due to curb inflation im now having second thoughts about my new car? Are others having the same thoughts?

tedblog said: Porsche991992 said: Buy what you like , it does not matter any more , 2 years from now petrol will be 3 pounds a litre to encourage to buy electric when the rates will go up per kWh Its the “illuminati” to coin an expression who will decide all So in summary just enjoy what you like .We must live every day not wait for a day to do somehthing Just an opinion Good luck what ever you decide With the rate that fuel is increasing around 10p a month we will nearly be at £3 a litre by the end of the year. I took advantage of high secondhand price demand and sold my car whilst i wait for my new one (mid 2023) and bought a little vw polo run around . This now costs £75 to fill . With the ways things are going at the moment increased cost of living and the interest rate increases due to curb inflation im now having second thoughts about my new car? Are others having the same thoughts? Recently sold my 18 month GtS for good money had an allocation on a new GTS for Q3 but cancelled it. Dealer said I could make a few thousand but wasn’t interested. I only see pain in the market within 12 months. Like you got a cheap run a round ftb.

cc3 said: tedblog said: Porsche991992 said: Buy what you like , it does not matter any more , 2 years from now petrol will be 3 pounds a litre to encourage to buy electric when the rates will go up per kWh Its the “illuminati” to coin an expression who will decide all So in summary just enjoy what you like .We must live every day not wait for a day to do somehthing Just an opinion Good luck what ever you decide With the rate that fuel is increasing around 10p a month we will nearly be at £3 a litre by the end of the year. I took advantage of high secondhand price demand and sold my car whilst i wait for my new one (mid 2023) and bought a little vw polo run around . This now costs £75 to fill . With the ways things are going at the moment increased cost of living and the interest rate increases due to curb inflation im now having second thoughts about my new car? Are others having the same thoughts? Recently sold my 18 month GtS for good money had an allocation on a new GTS for Q3 but cancelled it. Dealer said I could make a few thousand but wasn’t interested. I only see pain in the market within 12 months. Like you got a cheap run a round ftb. I always end up doing the opposite of what I should! Sold my M3 in June 21 when I could probably have made more on it, ran a couple of economical run arounds for a year and sold for a new Macan last week. All in the face of common sense.

I've had an update on my order: the car has been built and is at Emden waiting for a ship to Grimsby. Apparently they are expecting it to arrive at the dealership on the 24th, though that depends on it getting through customs quickly. There's a ship ("EMS Highway") sailing from Emden to Grimsby, due later today, so I'm hoping the Porsche system is a little slow in updating and it's on there.

I ordered a 2.0 in January and it is due for delivery in November, after the local OPC finally receiving build slots. The price of the un-optioned car has increased by approximately £2K since my order and deposit was paid. I spoke to the sales manager yesterday and he told me that I will pay the increased new price at the time of collection. I was not going to get into a "debate" at the time, but looking at my signed New Vehicle Order Form it says in the T&Cs nothing about price changes ahead of delivery being passed to the customer. In fact, Section 4.1 says "The price of the vehicle is as set out in the New Vehicle Order Form (the "Price") and includes VAT." Granted Section 20.1 states that any specification changes will require the termination of the existing order and a new agreement entered into. This could I guess inculde the change of the unoptioned car. Also at the time of ordering, the sales executive said it was important to get the finance proposal approved before end of March to ensure then current APR (it too has since increased); finance proposal was duly completed by end of March. So I would assume Porsche finance would honor this earlier rate. OPC and Porsche knew when taking the order in January there was no way the delivery would be anytime soon, and said that prices and rates would be held. Yesterday the Sales manager told me (and my 15 year old daughter) that the increased sales price would be applie "just like if you order a wahing machine or a TV and the price changes". Really!? Personally I think he's taking the piss! I welcome other's opinions and recent experiences. Edited by churchie2856 on Sunday 19th June 23:13

churchie2856 said: I ordered a 2.0 in January and it is due for delivery in November, after the local OPC finally receiving build slots. The price of the un-optioned car has increased by approximately £2K since my order and deposit was paid. I spoke to the sales manager yesterday and he told me that I will pay the increased new price at the time of collection. I was not going to get into a "debate" at the time, but looking at my signed New Vehicle Order Form it says in the T&Cs nothing about price changes ahead of delivery being passed to the customer. In fact, Section 4.1 says "The price of the vehicle is as set out in the New Vehicle Order Form (the "Price") and includes VAT." Granted Section 20.1 states that any specification changes will require the termination of the existing order and a new agreement entered into. This could I guess inculde the change of the unoptioned car. Also at the time of ordering, the sales executive said it was important to get the finance proposal approved before end of March to ensure then current APR (it too has since increased); finance proposal was duly completed by end of March. So I would assume Porsche finance would honor this earlier rate. OPC and Porsche knew when taking the order in January there was no way the delivery would be anytime soon, and said that prices and rates would be held. Yesterday the Sales manager told me (and my 15 year old daughter) that the increased sales price would be applie "just like if you order a wahing machine or a TV and the price changes". Really!? Personally I think he's taking the piss! I welcome other's opinions and recent experiences. Edited by churchie2856 on Sunday 19th June 23:13 Have you had a build confirmed and locked down your spec yet and paid the uplifted 10% deposit?

Biuld slot confirmed on the phone a week ago by Sales Exec. I am happy to proceed with the specification submitted at time of order being placed, signed and £3K deposit being paied. No mention, verbally or written, at any stage about having to pay 10% at ahead of it entering into build. I ordered a 718 from the same OPC 3 years ago, same sales exec. I paid 3K at point of order (a requirement); 3K a week ahead of delivery and financed the rest. Ceratinly not 10% ahead of build.

still not seeing a great deal of people reporting they have actually got their hands on a new car this year, just a lot of chatter about possible delivery dates. I done some more digging to try and understand more by looking at the UK site for national statistics. https://media.smmt.co.uk/may-2020-new-car-registra... Just looking at summaries for May registrations, this is what I found: 2022 1454 cars registered 2021 921 2020 235 2019 1599 Even with chips and wars we appear to be back to precovid volumes, so I guess we are in catch up for the past two years.

My Macan has finally made it to the dealers (the delay was due to customs, apparently), and collection has been arranged for next Thursday. It's really happening (finally - I was beginning to give up hope). I've been asked if I want to pay £300 p/a for the vehicle tracker. On the one hand, I might be able to get the car back if it gets stolen, but would I really want it back after some lowlife had thrashed it around and abused it? Does anyone have any thoughts on the tracker?

Jules Winfield said: My Macan has finally made it to the dealers (the delay was due to customs, apparently), and collection has been arranged for next Thursday. It's really happening (finally - I was beginning to give up hope). I've been asked if I want to pay £300 p/a for the vehicle tracker. On the one hand, I might be able to get the car back if it gets stolen, but would I really want it back after some lowlife had thrashed it around and abused it? Does anyone have any thoughts on the tracker? It’s not the best to be honest. Be prepared for the dreaded email from Vodafone advising that connection has been lost (it seems to happen quite often).This subsequently requires the car to be returned to the dealership for a few days for a hard reset. It was a requirement for the insurance for my GT4 but not sure I would go with it again if alternatives were available.

I only pay £235 per annum for the tracker on my 718 Spyder so check that price! There have been a lot of compaints about the tracker over the years - it seems to be pot luck as to whether you have problems or not. I only had it on the Spyder because of insurance companies insistence. I agree that I would probably not want the car back if it had been stolen. So my advice is check out inurance requirements before you commit.

Jules, I put apple airtags in my cars. For the price it's worth putting a couple in, just case one is found. They work well and I'm always able to track my cars, and know where my wife is :-)

Just heard from my salesman - apparently they've spotted a chip and crack in the windscreen, so it needs replacing. They think they can get a new one for Wednesday. They are going to confirm this, and get back to me as it may mean a delay in me collecting the car (they will need to calibrate the cameras/sensors). Sigh.

Wondering what peoples current experience is on new GTS lead times please?

I have no build date yet , but on original order third quarter 2023. I had offers of a cancellation this years deliverry, but declined and happy to wait. You might get lucky ringing around?

Try the more recently opened Porsche Centres. When I was looking to order in December last year, some places were already quoting 2023. I went with Stockport, who are relatively new, so didn't have much of a waiting list. If memory serves, there were six people in front of me in the queue for a GTS. I emailed a bunch of centres within a couple of hours of me, which to me seemed easier than faffing around on the phone. I got responses from most, though there was one group of dealers (with centres in the south-west) who didn't get back to me at all.

I’ve found Exeter Porsche so bad I simply stopped dealing with them and just use Parker’s up north. It really is easier to deal with Parkers 300 miles away than the local boys. Helps that the family has been a customer there for over 25yrs though!

I can report good news. For those waiting like I did. My order went in last October 2021 and was told it would be delivered around September 2022. Throughout the process with Porsche Solihull they always maintained the delivery date of September and true to their word it arrived. Like most I wasn't happy with the delay but at least they were honest and stuck to the date. Some dealers like BMW promise 6 month delivery even now, when the reality is an order just gets pushed into the long grass. I have an order with them which is has been delayed for over 6 months from the initial delivery date and still they is no news.