My 996 only has one clutch switch not two???

Hello Everyone, My 996 3.6 2002 manual UK car will start on the ignition key whether the clutch pedal is in or out. I only discovered this is odd when I googled why my car gets the error code for "clutch encoder P0830", and everyone says to check both the clutch switches, but my car only has one switch! Google shows that every forum topic on this tends to lead to this Pelican Parts image of the clutch pedal and the two clutch switches: My car has the large red and black switch with the green arrow, but it does not have the smaller grey micro switch with the yellow arrow. Is this unusual? I can see the two screw holes where you could mount the small grey switch if you wanted to, but there is no wiring. The car is unmodified and molested with a history of owners that only went to main dealers. My car does not have cruise control, starts perfectly, and runs perfectly aside from throwing that error code above. So basically.... did not all cars have the second switch on the clutch pedal? Thanks, Chris

Year: 2002 Make: subaru Price: $35000 Mileage: 1 Color: White Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing Location (State): MA Transmission: Manual Drivetrain: 4WD & AWD sold!

Hi Chris, I have a RoW manual 2004 C2. Good history, no modifications etc. I can start my car without the clutch pedal in. I actually would prefer if I had that switch. Although it's handy being able to start the car before getting into it. Just make sure it's not in gear!

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Hi Dan, Thanks for that - very interesting. I wonder why I am getting the "clutch encoder" message? Was the safety feature of the clutch switch only for some markets? Chris

Somewhere on here or another porsche site I have a diy with pics on control arms replacement

Perhaps, I do remember reading something in the owners manual about needing to press in the clutch to start too but mines not like that. Think you're right, may only be for certain markets.

To put some finishing touches on this thread, there are few things that can make sounds describrd. Each has to be looked at, or uf u do full bore approach, do all at once to fix sounds issue. 1. Lower control arms - known culprit, squeak or thud when going over bumps. You can inspect and see bushings tears. Fix is to replace control arms. 2. Upper control arms - known culprit, squeaks over bumps. Will be hard to inspect bushings as they are obstructed. There is process to inspect on cayenne section. If you replaced lower control arms, and sounds still present, replace the upper control arms. Plus read next point. 3. Upper shock mount bushings - known culprit in air suspension, clunking sound over bumps, especially low speed. These are rubber stops inside each shock. They are supposed to keep internals aligned, but if they get worn, internals of shock stary flopping around, hence clunking sound. Remedy is to replace said bushings. I have a diy from cayenne section on how to do this. Not hard, and if youre doingupper control arms, you have to remove air shocks, giving you perfect opportunity to to replace. 4. Sway bar bushings - not as common for squeaks. Easy to replace, but i would do thease aftervabove 3 are addressed. I have diy on sway bar bushing repair on here in cayenne section, i think. 5. Sway bar links - not as common for squeaks, easy to replace. If i reolace sway bar bushings, might as well do th ese too, cheap and need removal to change sway bushings. After fixing my cayenne which has similar noises, thst users ovserve and repair, i would tackle these noises in shown order. Very doable as diy.

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You answered your own question! Because your car doesn't have cruise control you don't have that switch . There is two clutch control switches, one is dedicated to the cruise control system, which disengages cruise control when you push the clutch in. Since you don't have cruise control you don't have the switch or wiring for it. Quote: If you get the car to a place that has a diagnostic tool you can go into the menus and turn off the cruise control option. That should eliminate the code. At some point in the cars history the brain got switched to think it had cruise control and it's looking for the switch. Just need to switch the programming. If you have any other questions let me know. -Luccia

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Or you could install cruise control! It's actually great to have, couldn't imagine my car without it. I'm sure others will disagree though! Cheers!

Excellent congrats 👏

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Quote: Hi Dan, My post was in reference to the OP's post not yours. Apologies. -Luccia

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All good! I read hi Dan and neglected to read the rest! Sorry

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Quote: No worries!

Wow guys - really useful, thanks. PelicanParts - I am surprised that the lack of factory fitted cruise control makes an error code appear in the ECU. I once had the error light on the dash and when I scanned for codes the only one I had stored was the clutch encoder one. With that cleared, the light cleared.