PCCBs have vanished? - Page 1 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

The PCCB options have disappeared frm the Porsche UK configurator. Read the same on pff.de and Rennlist. Another shortage - good news for Surface Transforms I expect !

Yep… seen the same… even impacting 4RS… and there is a stop on PCCB orders. I think OPC are due to be contacting those with orders to see if they can switch them to Iron/Steels. As you say… shares in ST about to go to the moon!

Glad I'm not going nuts. I was speccing a 992 for fun (as you do) and couldn't find the PCCB option!

On the GT4 can PCCB's be used with the steel callipers ? I have a low mileage set boxed up ... I can't imagine that anybody would ever prefer to strip the ST's off my own or anybody else's GT4 ... or GT3 ??

Was told by the OPC that PCCBs are in short supply and this is why they are not available. They will return I was told. Not sure when. Strange thing I’ve noticed is that you can spec these in the UAE configurator. Wonder if these are a popular option in this part of the world and stock is reserved for this market. Could be the Porsche IT department are a little ropey.

997boy said: Was told by the OPC that PCCBs are in short supply and this is why they are not available. They will return I was told. Not sure when. Strange thing I’ve noticed is that you can spec these in the UAE configurator. Wonder if these are a popular option in this part of the world and stock is reserved for this market. Could be the Porsche IT department are a little ropey. It’s a real issue… PCCB is pulled for many models for ordering and probably won’t return until the summer or next Model Year. Anything already locked as of this week should be ok to complete. Other components are also in short supply i understand…. Lightweight package for 993 Turbo S and 992 GTS and some sizes of GT style wheels for SUVs

Chris - yes they can but you have to buy a spacer kit from ST to move the calipers to use their PCCB replacement discs. I would love to try them one day but I'll need the 997.2 GT3 RS 280mm up front and a 380mm at the back too to fit 18" and my rather smaller than I planned 19" wheels too.....

Thanks ... since the ST's can be used with the steel callipers that makes sense. In which case, there are sets on ebay, though rather expensive ... at which price ST's should be the preferred option ? I wonder if there would be any brake servo or PSM implications ?

The implications of changing from steels to PCCBs (either with PCCB calipers or with standard calipers spaced radially outboard) are: (i) you need a pair of new short hard-lines for the fronts and; (ii) the car has to be coded for PCCBs as the ABS/PSM algorithm differs between PCCBs and steels. This takes only about 10 minutes on PIWIS - no codes (as such) required as it's more a 'toggle' between steel and PCCB tick boxes. No changes to boosters, servos, etc. Clearly, if you're changing rear discs then the EPBs have to be recalibrated (but not ground-in when you switch to ceramics). Buying a good condition/lightly used set of PCCBs can be a very cost effective way of getting PCCBs on a car. They should be worth pretty much their original purchase price when you come to sell. PCCB fitment for near-zero net outlay! James Edited by short-shift on Friday 4th February 22:01

short-shift said: The implications of changing from steels to PCCBs (either with PCCB calipers or with standard calipers spaced radially outboard) are: (i) you need a pair of new short hard-lines for the fronts and; (ii) the car has to be coded for PCCBs as the ABS/PSM algorithm differs between PCCBs and steels. This takes only about 10 minutes on PIWIS - no codes (as such) required as it's more a 'toggle' between steel and PCCB tick boxes. No changes to boosters, servos, etc. Clearly, if you're changing rear discs then the EPBs have to be recalibrated (but not ground-in when you switch to ceramics). Buying a good condition/lightly used set of PCCBs can be a very cost effective way of getting PCCBs on a car. They should be worth pretty much their original purchase price when you come to sell. PCCB fitment for near-zero net outlay! James Edited by short-shift on Friday 4th February 22:01 Yep… all of this should be done as part of the job price for getting the conversion done.

I wonder if this is just impacting the cars with 410mm discs? Does anyone have an order for a 911 Turbo S, Panamera Turbo S or other car with pccb as standard which I think run 420mm discs?

What about replacement discs for an already PCCB equipped car, e.g. due to scored discs?

TDT said: Yep… all of this should be done as part of the job price for getting the conversion done. If you trot along to your friendly OPC they will charge circa £24k for parts alone, plus fitting, which sort of drives a horse and coach through my man-maths proposition. But you can buy "lightly used" rotor, caliper and pad sets (often taken unmarked from low-mileage insurance write-offs) for a fraction of that total and the changeover is all DIY stuff. The prices you see on ebay are really a starter for negotiation and then it's just a day's work. And at the end of your ownership period, you should be able to resell the kit for the same value as they had when you purchased. James Edited by short-shift on Saturday 5th February 09:02

short-shift said: TDT said: Yep… all of this should be done as part of the job price for getting the conversion done. If you trot along to your friendly OPC they will charge circa £24k for parts alone, plus fitting, which sort of drives a horse and coach through my man-maths proposition. But you can buy "lightly used" rotor, caliper and pad sets (often taken unmarked from low-mileage insurance write-offs) for a fraction of that total and the changeover is all DIY stuff. The prices you see on ebay are really a starter for negotiation and then it's just a day's work. And highly likely to have retained the same value come resale time. James Lol. Not Porsche PCCB. I’d just go directly for Surface Transforms. 10-12k for steel conversion based on the quotes I’ve had in the past.

Milnsey said: What about replacement discs for an already PCCB equipped car, e.g. due to scored discs? Again, if you go to your OPC for a set of replacement discs you'll be looking at circa £20k in costs. So buying a set of four nearly-new discs on the open market (reputable breakers, trustworthy ebay sellers, respected second-hand parts vendors, other forum members, etc) will prove to be very cost effective in comparison. If you only want one disc they, too, are available from the sources I mentioned but probably sensible to buy in axle pairs, rather than just replace a single disc, unless you can be confident of the 'match'. James

TDT said: Lol. Not Porsche PCCB. I’d just go directly for Surface Transforms. 10-12k for steel conversion based on the quotes I’ve had in the past. I think Gen 3 PCCBs will hold their value very well; there is always a market for people who want to retain OEM spec. James

They've updated the 718 configurator today and PCCB's are back on the options.

Still can't spec them on my 992 GTS order. Hopefully this changes soon.

ScottyM4CP said: Still can't spec them on my 992 GTS order. Hopefully this changes soon. I noticed this, seem to be just on the 718's.. they've also added arctic grey as a special colour. Assume it's coming to the 992 too