Centre Locks 991 Turbo S - Page 1 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

Would a lack of centre locks detract you from buying a 991 Turbo S? Seems majority have them. Personally prefer the look, but wondered if it was a “must have” when considering a purchase.

CLs are marmite for many and most seem to dislike them so cannot see that as a downside. I personally love them and know how to deal with them But I’m in the minority

I had them on my 997.2. Once I’d bought the right torque bar and taken them off once (to apply a ceramic coating) I could get them on and off in half the time to do normal wheels. I’d happily have them again as they look epic.

I had them on a 997 GTS, never again. I had a puncture and it was a total circus versus what would have been a simple process with normal wheels. I appreciate some love them and purchase the necessary tools, but for me they are form over function on a road car.

Greedydog said: I had them on a 997 GTS, never again. I had a puncture and it was a total circus versus what would have been a simple process with normal wheels. I appreciate some love them and purchase the necessary tools, but for me they are form over function on a road car. The Owner/Principal of a well know Indie said pretty much this exact point to me. In summary, getting a puncture with CLs in deepest France on a weekend trip (his example) teaches you the hard way! I deliberately swerved them but do like how they look. Ps - I appreciate that you can buy and keep the correct tools in the car but there is limited space as it is

I loved them on my turbo, and just carried a digital torque head in the boot so never any dramas. Most garages would have a 3/4 bar or a step too 3/4 and a scaffold tube, so no dramas really and they look great!

Why not just buy a torque wrench and carry in the frunk of the car - its that easy!

Slaav said: The Owner/Principal of a well know Indie said pretty much this exact point to me. In summary, getting a puncture with CLs in deepest France on a weekend trip (his example) teaches you the hard way! I deliberately swerved them but do like how they look. Same thing happened to my mate in France! Stuck for 48 hours while Porsche flatbed’d him to another country.

AMTony said: Why not just buy a torque wrench and carry in the frunk of the car - its that easy! Basically what I’ve done with minimal space impact [url] |https://thumbsnap.com/vh1wiiKJ[/url]

Got my inspiration from you! Punctures with centrelocks not a problem.

c4sman said: AMTony said: Why not just buy a torque wrench and carry in the frunk of the car - its that easy! Basically what I’ve done with minimal space impact [url] |https://thumbsnap.com/vh1wiiKJ[/url] Great photo/planning. I’m impressed! Any chance of listing the actual parts required please (I have a centre lock equipped car on order for delivery later this year). Cheers

I agree they certainly look good. However they are a pain to have on a car for the reasons already mentioned plus; 1. There is a technique to removing and replacing the wheels that if not followed can damage the ceramic disks. Not all cars with CL have ceramic disks but this that do can be susceptible to damage when the wheel is removed/replaced. and 2. The nuts are very sensitive to the agents they are cleaned with. if in doubt, look at the number of GTS with milky coloured CL nuts contrasting against the black wheels. This colour change can happen very quickly. Perhaps less obvious against a silver wheel, but it would still annoy me. Despite claims that this is not a warranty matter, it has been handled as such and there is a warranty price on the Porsche system. I do not posit this to be relied on as one were replaced when the vehicle was quite new, some of these earlier cars are now getting on. 3. Porsche warranty, this now specifically excludes items that function as intended but may lack their original appearance. This has wider implications than CL wheels. From my experience of punctures and even the problems of planned tyre changes, CLs are something I would avoid in future.

So if one happens to get a puncture and you don't have the equipment, then what's the best thing to do? Call Porsche Assistance I suppose and wait to be recovered?

IMac said: It's a flat bed recovery. Although from my experience, this is unlikely to run smoothly! Not all flat beds will take a 911(certainly with GTS suspension), as the overhand at the front will snag when they try to load it. so, wait for another more suitable vehicle to be located/dispatched/arrive/load...... you can see how a simple puncture can slowly turn into a full day event. I was fortunate never to have a puncture anywhere remote where I can only image the issues would be exacerbated. Thanks IMac. I already experienced a puncture in my first week of ownership. Thankfully it was a slow puncture that I realised while car was in my garage. Phoned my local OPC, pumped up tyre a bit extra and was able to drive it there and they sorted me out.

It's a flat bed recovery. Although from my experience, this is unlikely to run smoothly! Not all flat beds will take a 911(certainly with GTS suspension), as the overhang at the front will snag when they try to load it. So, wait for another more suitable vehicle to be located/dispatched/arrive/load...... you can see how a simple puncture can slowly turn into a full day event. I was fortunate never to have a puncture anywhere remote where I can only imagine the issues would be exacerbated. Edited by IMac on Tuesday 31st January 13:59