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+onsite track support (vehicle prep/wheel torque/tire pressure check)
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Check over the brakes, steering, suspension and engine
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We check over the brakes, steering, suspension and engine.
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We strongly recommend replacing the brake fluid with a high temp variation.
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On a turbo car, changing the stock cats is the most important thing when it comes to making additional power and lowering temperature.
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Does anyone on this forum run fabspeed catless with giac stage 2??
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I just don't want the car to go into limbo mode when the ecu detects that I have stock cats and when it's running hotter than normal due to high booster pressure.
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Our trailer and techs will be on hand to assist participants with everything from helmet rental, car preparation (removing loose items such as floormats, setting tire pressures and adding numbers), giving directions on where to go and keeping track of the event schedule.
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Here at GMP Performance, there is nothing we love more than cars. We love the looks, the sounds, the parts, the details, everything that goes in and comes out of them. But what we may love the most about our cars is racing them!
GMP Performance and race tracks have gone together for almost 40 years now and we’re always looking for new ways to share that with you. Not just watching, oh no, but participating and being part of the experience as much as we are. And so, THAWOUT was born.
For THAWOUT, we have organized a track day at Carolina Motorsports Park, a track that has seen the likes of the NASA and SCCA series and the NASCAR Sprint Cup series and some Grand Am teams for testing, and open it up to you to bring your car and live the racing life for a day. No matter what your level of experience is, we have a program for you.
We are allowed to do this for you, courtesy of The Palmetto Motorsports Club, CMP’s private membership-only motorsports club. The intimate PMC format guarantees a minimum of five twenty minute sessions with additional sessions as time permits, all in one day. We will be there to make sure everything you could need is taken care of. Our trailer and techs will be on hand to assist participants with everything from helmet rental, car preparation (removing loose items such as floormats, setting tire pressures and adding numbers), giving directions on where to go and keeping track of the event schedule. Each participant receives their own box to store their valuables which is stored in the trailer during the day. Chairs are set up around tables and we supply a mix of snacks and drinks.
A week prior to the event, a comprehensive inspection of the vehicle will be performed to make sure your car is in tip top, race-ready shape. We check over the brakes, steering, suspension and engine. We strongly recommend replacing the brake fluid with a high temp variation. Additionally, worn out items such as tires may need to be replaced and can be ordered in time for the event.
Racing!
Participants are grouped into three groups based on experience levels to insure the utmost safety.
Group 1: The DE (Drivers Ed) group is for novice drivers to get comfortable with the track day experience. Participants are assigned an instructor that will ride in the car to explain driving/track techniques and is there to keep you and others safe. Instructional class-time is included to brief you on the course layout, track procedures and passing rules. Passing is only permitted in designated "safe-zones" which are on the longer straight-aways to keep risks at an absolute minimum. Since this group has instructors, we strongly encourage early sign-up as we try and pair instructors with experience in particular cars. Registration for the Drivers Ed group closes May 1st.
Group 2: The Solo group allows more experienced drivers to run at a higher pace and overtaking is allowed in designated zones with a "point-by".
Group 3: The super-solo group is for racers and their racecars. Passing is allowed and participants can enjoy abundant track time for testing.
There will also be an opportunity for enthusiasts to get on track for Touring laps. This series of controlled speed laps are free, open to everyone, and will be performed for those looking to familiarize themselves with what it’s like to be on track. These laps will be held during the mandatory quiet hour at lunch. There are also rental Go-Karts for those enthusiasts not old enough to participate on the track.
Track Day Schedule:
5:30am-7:00am : Caravan from GMP to the track
7:00am-7:45am : Tech Inspection
7:45am-8:00am : Mandatory Driver's Meeting
8:00am-12:00pm : Morning Track & Classroom Sessions
12:00pm-12:15 : Group Photo on Front Straight
12:30pm : PMC Luncheon/Touring Laps
1:00pm-5:00pm : Afternoon Track Sessions
5:00pm : Track Sessions Concluded
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The fun isn’t just at the track either. On Friday, May 10th, we have an amazing open house. Our shop doors will be open and enthusiasts are invited to tour the showroom, shop and warehouse to get an insiders look. We are inviting industry insiders and manufacturer reps as special guests to discuss their available upgrades. In previous years, we’ve had representatives and displays from everyone as far as APR, Michelin, Brembo, Vossen, BBS, Eibach, Speedart, and many more.
Our shop team will demonstrate a Hawk-Eye Elite alignment and road-force balancing using our state-of-the-art Hunter equipment. Drinks and light snacks will be served all day and free ice cream will handed out at 5pm.
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Track Day Registration includes all of the following:
+an abundant amount of track time
+track wheel/tire transport to and from the track
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THAWOUT 2013
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Our first caravan will leave on Friday night to head to the track to get setup the tents and trailers. Lodging is available five minutes from the track at the Executive Inn.
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Hi guys,
Hope this post would be informative to folks who want stock cats and a more aggressive tune.
I ordered sharkwerk exhaust that will go on the car this weekend. I am also planning on getting the giac stage 2 tune. Given that the sw exhaust uses stock cats, I wasn't sure if the stage 2 tune would work effectively.
Spoke with Tom from champion and gmp where I ordered the parts feedback summarized below:
Tom - the performance might be inconsistent but there will be a gain. When the cats get too hot, ecu will dial back performance. So on a hot day or during track days(which I don't do) initial runs might be faster then car will slow down, but should still perform at least stage 1 level.
Gmp - the software will work but I won't be realizing the full potential of the tune. So the performance level will be in between stage 1 and 2.
I am ok with what gmp said, but if what Tom said is closer to reality (inconsistency) it might annoy to me.
I hope Giac or someone who understand how the tune works will provide some feedback. I prefer not to do just stage 1 as sw exhaust is fairly free flowing.
Thanks in advance.
On a turbo car, changing the stock cats is the most important thing when it comes to making additional power and lowering temperature. The muffler itself is just for sound tuning.
So if you do a GIAC software, your stock cats will run hot when you go out there at the track and the ecu will dial back the boost to control the exhaust temperature.
Both have told you the truth, it's just worded differently. The GIAC software will now recognize whether your car runs an aftermarket exhaust with a less restrictive cat. So with your SW exhaust, it might sense it's more free flowing at first, so it will give you stage 2 boost. However, with the increased boost, the ecu will also see your exhaust temperature increase more than normal since you are running the stock cat. Then, it will dial back the boost to stage 1 level.
I don't know about you but I think one of the coolest parts of track days is the other cars you'll be out there with! So I thought I'd share the cars we currently have coming. Will you be one of them? We really hope so!
This 2011 GTI is definitely track-ready, with H&R springs, a Brembo big brake kit, Carbonio intake, and an intense APR DXD clutch kit. The owner has come out with us before, so this VW knows its way around the track as well.
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Very good explaination, thank you. I don't track, I just need that occasional over boost once in a blue moon. If i can get that then I'm satisfied. I just don't want the car to go into limbo mode when the ecu detects that I have stock cats and when it's running hotter than normal due to high booster pressure.
Porsches doing the thing they were created for is always a beautiful thing and its something we love seeing. This particular 997T is equipped Bilstein coilovers, a speedART exhaust system, ADV1 wheels, Carbotech brakes and a handful of other upgrades. It has also come out with us before at previous track events and is a true beauty in motion, just as Porsches were designed to be.
@Fabspeed, will your cat bypass pipe work with the sharkwerk exhaust? You mentioned that cel might come on. Does it go away by itself or required dealer reset? Does your universal O2 spacer help with this?
Thawout inches closer and closer and more stuff falls into place. We have had several more sign ups, including a Mercedes SLK55, an Audi S4, and a BMW 335is. We have been talking with the people at Monster Energy to bring their truck (loaded with cans of Monster, of course!) to the track to hang out with us also.
But Thawout isn’t all that’s making progress. The open house has been coming together as well. We already have had Grassroots Motorsports Magazine graciously offer us year subscriptions for the raffle, as well as some things from Champion Motorsport, who will also have a display up for the event.
Just as a reminder, you don’t need to be a racer to come join us for the day. We’d love to have everyone join us, to hang out, spectate, drink some Monsters and just have a great time. Bring your car and show it off! We’ve been eyeballing our location at the track and we are in a perfect location to host a car meet. After all, what’s better than getting to hang out at a track with some fellow car enthusiasts? We are offering rides to those interested, will be loaded with snacks and drinks, and, if we can say so ourselves, we think we’re pretty cool company to hang out with.
So don’t hesitate to come on down. It’s totally free to get in, and touring laps held at lunch time are for anyone and everyone!
If you are getting GIAC Stage 2 you should be getting an exhaust that is Catless (Tubi race) or with high flow cats (Europipe, GMG, Tubi Street, Fabspeed, etc). Sharkwerks is for good sound but stock cats are not ideal with GIAC stage 2
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EP/GMG/TUBI all had 3-4 weeks wait time when I was looking. I wanted something that was in stock.
I'm trying to decide if i should do Fabspeed catless bypass with SW...
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I hear you. They all have a big waiting list because they're in demand because they all have a good reputation for high-quality. This is not to say that the sharkwerks doesn't. It's just a very different philosophy of exhaust and one that I would not do when getting a big tune on my car because of the need for high flow cats or no cats to optimize the tune. I'm keeping my fingers crossed you can find a cat Bypass for that
If you're interested I can talk to Tom from champion now and see if Tubi Catless is in stock. I think he said they may have one or two. I was with him today in pompano going over the details of the work he will be doing to my car
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Tom said he might have a used one and would let me know yesterday, didn't hear back so assumed he didn't.
Fabspeed is already ordered.
Thanks sdg!
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Sorry man....based on our conversation it was my understanding that you wanted an exhaust with cats. I checked to see if I had that used Tubi Street in stock, but did not. Had I known you wanted something cat-less I could have probably put something together for you.
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Sorry for the confusion... at that point I didn't care if it was catted or catless, just wanted something by tomorrow.
Anyway, thanks for your time to explain all the pluses/minuses of giac/cobb tune.
I've decided to give cobb a try.
Will report back.
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Yes they will probably be in by then. But even if they are you can get 1/4 mile times recorded on one of the fastest dragstrips in the country in the cooler air of the fall.
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LOL. The private track day is for fun -- not for pink slips or money. If someone doesn't want to race they can just go down the dragstrip by themselves and get a time record. We're simply renting out the track on a day which hopefully will provide ideal weather conditions for the fastest possible times. Track has a very tiny DA and hopefully the air will be cool.
Oh and at least one Cobb tuned 991 Turbo S coupe -- GSC's car -- is expected to be there.
No FB here either..... I don't care where you had dinner or what pics you are posting or whatever the hell goes on there. And I'm not even that "old" yet..... Instagram don't get me started....
Interested in ATCO rental day... Thanks.
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I've got, fabspeed headers and 200 cel cats, I love the sound and there headers are supposed to work. I've got the cat bypass pipes I still need to install, I am going to dyno my car with headers and stock manifolds to see if there are any hp In creases or decreases
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