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YOUR RESEARCHGetting a glass window-ed top... need advice..

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your line of sight doesnt change but of course the total viewing shrinks.

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Replace top this year

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I'm probably going to replace my top this year but will be going with the plastic window again.

Getting a glass window-ed top... need advice..

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Two wheel bolts out of the original set are missing.

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Use bg products

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your line of sight doesnt change but of course the total viewing shrinks.

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Replace top this year

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I'm probably going to replace my top this year but will be going with the plastic window again.

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Two wheel bolts out of the original set are missing.

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Use bg products

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey guys.. well I am now in absolute need of a top for my 2000 c2. I have been holding off forever, and now time has come. I have officially made up my mind on not doing plastic window top, as in my opinion the glass one is tougher and actually looks better. I am looking at these 2 tops... http://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-911-...d7e140&vxp=mtr and http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-01-Pors...87f520&vxp=mtr Which one...??? they seem identical! does anyone have these? Thanks! -Paul

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Year: 1992 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: 500-Class Price: $21000 Mileage: 138000 Color: Black Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing Location (State): TX Transmission: Automatic Drivetrain: Rear Wheel Drive VIN = WDBEA36E1NB713961 Over 10k dollars in recent service and modification Wiring harness is updated Delphi version New intake tubes New radiator New fan clutch New contact ring New rear window regulators New neutral safety switch 94 Bosch headlights 94 trunk and hood Genuine 94 tail-lights 94 blinkers New rear bumper (the original bumper was warped which is very common on these cars and I was not happy with it, so I replaced myself for $900.00 brand new from MB) New rubber mirror boots Birds-eye maple wood (which the P.O sent out to do) w210 E55 AMG monoblocks staggered freshly refinished New e55 center caps New coolant expansion tank New expansion tank cap New rear main seal New Air cleaner Mounts New tie rods New thermostat New distributor caps and rotors New trans gasket New trans filter New fluids in transmission using BG products New Valve cover gaskets at 134k New Driveshaft Flex disc at 134k New wiper panels New fog lights Re-sealed front trans pump Re-sealed Secondary trans pump cap Fresh alignment Full paint correction and C-quartz paint sealant applied by Anson @ ViveHouston Lower cladding and bumpers color matched to black pearl New front plate filler panel New OEM Mercedes benz floor mats New window tint all around New fuel pressure regulator Custom exhaust system with magnaflow high flow cats, magnaflow resonator, and oem mb muffler (sounds great, not much louder than stock but has a good growl to it) The antenna does not operate (the car has aftermarket head unit installed, I imagine this has something to do with it. The sound quality of the sound systemis very nice, however. The stock head unit WAS and IS NOT included The rear glass has delamination going down the driver side The shifter is a mis-matched wood to the birds eye on the dash and console, it would probably be ideal to add a stock vinyl e500 shifter Door inserts are previously repaired for cup holder holes (a very good job was done however, it is hardly noticeable.) Two wheel bolts out of the original set are missing. These are NLA from benzand I have not found 2 yet, however I’m sure it wouldn’t be difficult to find apair of bolts on the forums or ebay if searched for enough The car shows and drives really nicely, no rock chips on the front end, paint shines amazingly with the C-quart sealant applied, seats were treated with leatherique and are in really nice shape (no bolster wear.) I am located in Houston, Texas in the River Oaks/ Galleria area. I welcome PPI’s on the car. If you feel I missed anything in the description, do not hesitate to ask. I am offering the car for 21k with the e55 monoblocks. My only reason for selling is I acquired a 1994 (last year) 1 owner with 78k miles. I have tons of pics of this car, any serious buyers send me a PM and I will exchange phone/ email information with you so I can provide more pictures and information. Regards, Chris

POST 3Original post

I honestly didn't know there was such a thing!

POST 4Original post

just want to be the first one to say: I hate you... Friggin' awesome car!! *runs away crying

POST 5Original post

I too have a 2000. Three years ago, I purchased and had this top installed. http://www.gahh.com/store.php?cPath=...ts_family_id=1 It's very well made. The canvas folds nicely. Be absolutely sure that the clam shell latching mechanism is protected by the plastic piece! Unbeknownst to the installer, this piece was missing, and the canvas got caught a few times. I can dig up a photo if you need one.

POST 6Original post

Love these cars - hope you find a TX buyer! Curious though, what does this mean? "The stock head unit WAS and IS NOT included". Is the stock head unit included or not?

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the input doug! Gahh tops seem much more expensive! Good to hear some info though. Anyone else? Any other input on these? Thanks Paul

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 4408195

Quote: I think he means "WAS NOT and IS NOT included", meaning he never had the stock HU.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Boy oh boy I really need to get this done... has anyone pulled a trigger on one of these tops? Thanks, Paul

POST 10Original post

Exactly what Mpowered stated, sorry if that came off as confusing. Also, I am willing to trade up or down let me know what you have. Car, motorcycle, watch, it doesn't matter. I don't need 2 500e Mercedes sitting around, 1 is enough. Thanks! Chris

POST 11Original post

is it just the pic or is the glass window a lot smaller than the plastic window i'm assuming it is because it cant fold like the plastic not liking the look of it at all, shame, i hate the plastic

POST 12Original post

Just saw this on BaT... I lusted for this car in the 90's. GLWS.

POST 13Original post

How hard is it to install the new top. Is this something one can easily do themselves or do you need to take it somewhere?

POST 14Original post

Free bump, this is a beautiful car I've seen it in person!

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 3811301

Quote: Definitely NOT a DIY project. I'm probably going to replace my top this year but will be going with the plastic window again. They're much larger and the new ones are double-stitched, unlike the OEM top which was just glued. The glass window is just too small for my taste.

POST 16Original post

I don't post much on this forum, but had to comment that this car is awesome. Wish I was in the market to pick it up, and it's local! One day......GLWS

POST 17Original post

Hey guys, its my first post here. i have been lurking on this site for about a year now. i purchased a 2001 c4 convertible. finally i feel i can contribute! so i bought the glass window top. the first ebay ad up there. i was a little skeptical because it wasnt the big brand. got it shipped to toronto, canada with no problems. liza from autotops was very friendly throughout the process. i went with the grey colour to match the original top. i found an installer through my friend that owns a body shop and it was that easy. the installer had my car from wednesday night and called me thursday to pick it up. he said the quality of the top was just as good as any other. when i figure out how to post pics of my car i will. but right now the hard top is on!

POST 18Original post

This sint the straight black is it? this is the grey - pearl black?

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

bmantdot - Thanks for your feedback!! Do you have any more pictures of the car? further away? How do you feel about the smaller rear window? does it cut off a lot of visibility or is the difference barely noticeable? How do you feel is the fit when you close the top? do all the seals align as well as they should? Thanks! Paul

POST 20Original post

the car is paint code 199 (black pearl) gloss black is code 040. Thanks! Chris

POST 21Original post

i have pictures somewhere. that was the only pic i could find quickly. it was taken minutes after i picked it up from the installer. i can post more pics when i take off my hard top. i only have the hard top on because i needed the space in my garage. but it's coming off shortly. the smaller window doesnt make a difference at all. your line of sight doesnt change but of course the total viewing shrinks. it doesnt bother me one bit. as for fit and finish i couldnt ask for anything more. its clean and simple. the car spent 3 months in florida this winter under the sun and now its back in canada and no problems. in my opinion its an absolute no brainer! i had to pay a little more to get the grey. auto tops can make your top in any colour. they offered me the new 2012 or 2013 grey colour. i just said "na...lets just stick to factory"

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Great thanks for feedback again. Did the glass window reduce some of the roadnoise? Also - did you get the one with the rear window heater? Thanks! Paul

POST 25Original post

The seal on the old top had an air gap so anything would be quieter than before even though the gap was small. I wouldn't say the car is louder. They also supply a head liner that zips up the gap from the plastic window. I did not get the heater wire. I think it was maybe 100$ more or so but I just didn't think I needed it. Maybe if its your daily driver get it.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

gotcha - ok thanks for the feedback! I look forward to some pictures Thanks again, Paul

POST 27Original post

The window is approximately, if not exactly, like a 986 Boxster's window. For reference.

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