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Makes the Sport Classic look cheap...think it was £145k list and given there were only 7 cars or so and only built for one dealer nothing more than a limited run of cars that Porsche Mayfair went a bit crazy on the options list with.

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At this price point I suspect these no longer get driven which just makes me sad.

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Makes the Sport Classic look cheap...think it was £145k list and given there were only 7 cars or so and only built for one dealer nothing more than a limited run of cars that Porsche Mayfair went a bit crazy on the options list with.

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Makes the Sport Classic look cheap...think it was £145k list and given there were only 7 cars or so and only built for one dealer nothing more than a limited run of cars that Porsche Mayfair went a bit crazy on the options list with.

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At this price point I suspect these no longer get driven which just makes me sad.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... I have always loved the Sport Classic, its probably one of the best looking cars around. The last time a saw one for sale it was about £130K which I thought was steep at the time. So too see one advertised at £295,000 came as a massive shock, someone please tell me this is a mistake

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Porsche911R said: been £250k for years only 250 worldwide. Quite nice car, but I remember raised eye brows at £130k.

POST 6Original post

Phooey said: It's a GTS in a frock A very nice frock

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Phooey said: It's a GTS in a frock Yes, but its a bloody nice frock.

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Guy down the road from me had a brand new one when they came out, kept it for a year, mostly under a cover, in which time I only saw it leave his driveway once. Replaced it with a brand new E92 M3, can't help but wonder if he regretted that decision. Bonkers money even when new TBH

POST 9Original post

Huh? It's a 997! When will this collector bulls t end! Nobody would ever pay that to drive it.

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Budflicker said: Yes, but its a bloody nice frock. Tis indeed a very nice frock. I've seen one and it did look lovely, inside and out. But, it's no better dynamically than a GTS. If we wasn't in this crazy bubble then I would guess it would be 20-30% more £ than a GTS. To think this is 3x the price of a 997 GT3! A GT3 is a totally different car to a standard 911 so at least they justify their premiums over a standard C2S, but a bit of leather and a unique colour.... Amazing what a numbered plaque can do. Mad world atm

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A car like that was never built to be a drivers car. It was built as a collectors car. Yes, it is only a GTS under the body, but that was never the point. The point of it is that you are more likely to see someone driving down the street in a 918 than a sports classic. It was a car never meant for us mere mortals. It was designed as a mega rare, very special collectors car, to be tucked away under a dust sheet in a garage in Monaco. Having said that if I had one it would be my daily driver.

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Didn't it have a different roof or something? At least unlike the 911R it wasn't a parts bin special; there were some genuine unique features like the roof, the wheels and ducktail. It's a shame Porsche then devalued this by bringing out the ducktail option for the 991.

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woollyjoe said: I would be more inclined to buy a used gts and make a few tweaks As a car to use this would make a lot of sense, you'd lose the double bubble roof, possibly trhe wheels & trim but save a huge amount of money & still have a very special car to you know, , rather than hide under a dust sheet in your collection.

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I think I've said this before on here but was at the Oldtimer GP with Porsche the year these came out, there were 3 pre-production models on display with 0000000 chassis numbers, they were due to be crushed shortly afterwards but they were stunning, stunning things. Couple of the group tried to make the Porsche bloke an offer on them, but he wasn't having any of it! I've seen one locally but that was shortly after they came out, not see one since, and probably won't.

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000/250 is at the Porsche experience in Silverstone, looks fantastic in the flesh. it's never been on the road and probably never will..........shame really

POST 16Original post

Seen one last year parked in Mayfair , looked like it was a daily hack by the colour of it. Very nice in the flesh.

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For the money- no justification buying one of these over a GT3 or similar...... what a rip off......reminds me of the special edition 'Mayfair Porsche' they did last year with nice cloth seats and a plaque. I think Keith Flint out of The Prodigy used to have a Sport Classic- although I imagine he is free from the normal financial constraints and good luck to him. Chris Harris vid here; http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/7336/porsche-911-...

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991 Anniversary. Although not as batty as the 997 Sport Classic.. still hard to justify over a 991 GTS.

POST 19Original post

I saw one in the Edinburgh OPC a wee while back, it was a lovely thing the wheels make it look even more special. Pity they were grey only I could imagine how stunning one would look in Guards Red.

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david hockney said: For the money- no justification buying one of these over a GT3 or similar...... what a rip off......reminds me of the special edition 'Mayfair Porsche' they did last year with nice cloth seats and a plaque. I got offered one of those by a "specialist dealer" last year who was trying to sell it for a "Porsche VIP" customer without Porsche knowing about it. Makes the Sport Classic look cheap...think it was £145k list and given there were only 7 cars or so and only built for one dealer nothing more than a limited run of cars that Porsche Mayfair went a bit crazy on the options list with. The Sport Classic colour is one of the few colours that you can't order PTS apparently as is also the case with the cream colour that some 911 50th's come in. This colour http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail... Why anyone would want a 911 that colour is beyond me. The grey or black 50th's look much nicer than that.

POST 21Original post

German/Dutch prices are no better. Around 420 KEUR for used cars (with <10K miles). http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/search.html?zipc...

POST 22Original post

They came out a bit before my time on here , was there a " letter of intent " issue with this car like there has been with the GT 3 etc ? Or did they just get sold under the radar so to speak .?

POST 23Original post

IIRC there wasn't huge demand when they came out, but quite a lot of discussion and scepticism on here about the £130k price. Prices then dropped and I think I can recall one was for sale for £85k. But, then, like much else, they have been caught up in the whirlwind that has seen the prices of all manner of 911s and lots of other, so-called, classic/collectables escalate. Nice individual example of a 997, I'm sure, but I do feel some people are trying to stretch this market too far.

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I remember looking at one for sale at Romans a couple of years ago, it was parked outside with a couple of thousand miles on the clock and had a sticker price of just over £100k. If I had had the money I would have bought it as I think they look great apart from the stick on stripes. I would have those taken off and new ones painted on but that just me. At this price point I suspect these no longer get driven which just makes me sad. Can we expect a 991 version of the Sport Classic at some point, hopefully not a limited addition? Now that would sell like hotcakes

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If the car market ever turns these things will take an absolute roasting...all the other modern day Potsche's are desirable because they mechanically special. This is a 997 GTS with a nice interior, a unique colour, a ducktail and the "double bubble" roof. I am not so sure if Porsche released a similar car now that people would go nuts for it like they did for say the R. I wonder what dealers will actually pay for these?

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breadvan said: I think the R is the SC of this generation.

POST 28Original post

Just been rinsed for a set of wheel caps that some scrote managed to remove from my car (HOW??) and tripped over a 911 SportClassic in the showroom. It's a thing of beauty (in my eyes at least). "It's one of 250 in the whole world" Number 127, one owner and 6500 miles.... A 911R is positively common, a GT3RS mainstream by comparison. Yes, it's just a 997 in a posh frock, but if I had a collection, I'd be writing a cheque out. "Yes, it's just come in at £276,995..." *cough* Should have bought one two years ago Edited by Captain James T on Thursday 31st March 17:24

POST 29Original post

porsche must have deliberately under priced it

POST 30Original post

You're not kidding me. I've spent the last hour analysing the rarity of this thing and the beyond-comprehension figures people pay for rare cars (993 Turbo S/ 993GT2/ 911 '73RS) and need to remortgage the shed to buy one... It doesn't matter that it's a posh 997GTS, a 993 GT2 was a rear wheel drive 993 Turbo... and is now worth £1m+

POST 31Original post

Rarity and looks. A classic combo. They will continue their rise. For me the best looking 911 since the late 80's.

POST 32Original post

I have always been torn on the looks, it does look better on the metal than on the pictures. I certainly like the interior though!

POST 33Original post

Its a bonkers price for literally a GTS with a few limited extras, how much would it cost to build one from a standard S? Even if only 250 were made, people are paying huge prices today for what they believe will be future greatly appreciating classics. By paying so much now not sure the maths will work out in the future think they maybe already cutting into the profits. I'm probably completely wrong and these will be a zillion bucks by 2020, so good luck to those that have one

POST 34Original post

Painted in a colour resembling primer. Awful. You can keep it at £100k plus.

POST 35Original post

Streetrod said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... I have always loved the Sport Classic, its probably one of the best looking cars around. The last time a saw one for sale it was about £130K which I thought was steep at the time. So too see one advertised at £295,000 came as a massive shock, someone please tell me this is a mistake fast forward 6 years and they still command that price https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-9... £310,500. with fees.

POST 36Original post

Anything in any Porsche model line up in limited numbers will always command a higher price Collectors or to retain value been the case for a few years now. Only if I had a Crystal ball I would have made a fortune on some of the models I sold in the past. But have had the pleasure of owing such cars I could not afford now days. Now what is the next limited edition that will rocket Lol

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julian987R said: Streetrod said: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... I have always loved the Sport Classic, its probably one of the best looking cars around. The last time a saw one for sale it was about £130K which I thought was steep at the time. So too see one advertised at £295,000 came as a massive shock, someone please tell me this is a mistake fast forward 6 years and they still command that price https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-9... £310,500. with fees. £299,000 all in fees capped at £6k.

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