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YOUR RESEARCHSo why is a Turbo Tip S, not a Turbo S ??
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The S also allowed manual gear changes purely from the steering wheel without having to first slide the gear selector into M (the gearbox would revert to auto if no further inputs were made within 8 seconds).
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Use only) first gen pccbs, and x50 turbo powerkit upgrade
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As pointed out they were very highly spec'd with (road use only) first gen PCCBs, and X50 Turbo PowerKit upgrade to 450 BHP.
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The S also allowed manual gear changes purely from the steering wheel without having to first slide the gear selector into M (the gearbox would revert to auto if no further inputs were made within 8 seconds).
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apart from the mechanical differences, (X50 & PCCB) etc,
Does anyone know why they did a Turbo Tip S, that isn't actually a Turbo S
Was anyone around at the time who read a write up explaining this?
I'd be quite interested as I'm dipping my toes in the water for a Turbo S, but keep coming across Tip S's by the dozen,
:dont know: :dont know: :?:
The Tiptronic S gearbox was an update to the previous Tiptronic box
The Turbo S is a different kettle of fish - bigger turbos, uprated brakes and a few other bits I believe
Wattie is correct in that the Tiptronic S referred to an uprated "auto" box.
The Turbo S was indeed a different kettle of fish and to quote from Total 911's Turbo Legacy feature in issue 51 about 12 months ago:
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The Turbo S badge returned in 2004 with the 996. It featured the X51 Powerkit that upped power to 450bhp, thanks to larger tubochargers and uprated intercoolers. The 996 Turbo S came as standard with PCCB
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Tiptronic S has additional gear switches on the steering wheel. Also it had one more forward ratio than the Tiptronic. I believe any 993 Tip is a 4 speeder whilst any 996 Tip is a 5 speeder and would have been called a Tip S. Does the 'S' in this case stand for 'Switchable'?
Turbo S is as explained above. You could also get a Turbo S Tip S if you wanted.
~ Maxie
Tiptronic S was introduced for the Boxster and 996. The "S" in "Tiptronic S" might as well stand for "software" (it is of course Sport). However, Tiptronic S was the updated Tiptronic gearbox software which adapted the gear box characteristics to the style of driving. Including holding a gear into a corner even if you took your foot completely off the throttle. The S also allowed manual gear changes purely from the steering wheel without having to first slide the gear selector into M (the gearbox would revert to auto if no further inputs were made within 8 seconds).
Steering wheel buttons for manual gear changes were in fact introduced in the reign of the 993. This previous "tip" model also allowed manual selection by sliding the lever over and "tipping" forward or back to rather unintuitively go up or down a gear respectively (which may have been another reason for the supplementary gate's demise in the subsequent "S" variant).
OLD TIPTRONIC
NEW TIPTRONIC S
The Turbo S is a very rare variant, actually being the only 996 model introduced AFTER the 997 was launched.
All models are MY 2005 (so only 54 or 05 plate). They were cab and coupe, manual or Tip S. 600 coupes and 1000 cabs.
As pointed out they were very highly spec'd with (road use only) first gen PCCBs, and X50 Turbo PowerKit upgrade to 450 BHP. PCM Sat Nav was also standard, CD changer, telephone module, aluminium painted dials (as C4) and GT Silver painted alloys. The list price was £15k more than standard Turbo.
If you find a car in Olive Green - looks almost black (Dark Olive Metallic - code M6X) it is definitely a proper Turbo S, as this was the first and only model Porsche offered it.
Here is one for sale:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1963935.htm
Oh good, even more confusion :? :?
Thanks for the explanations, now I just have to find a GR or SY Turbo S Cab, (optional Tip S),
should be easy enough.........................
Here is a Dark Olive Turbo S (with the wrong wheels - they should be the normal 996 Turbo 2, but in GT Silver).
Just search for 996 Turbos by year and ignore anything before "54" plate. You should now be left with 90%+ "Turbo S"s. In fact, ideally search in reverse (newest first).
Don't fall for someone just sticking a jaunty "S" on the back of a normal Turbo, even if it has X50 power.
A proper Turbo S will have an, erm, "Turbo S" badge on the tachometer dials, in front of the gear lever (on the "bat-wing") and scuff plates.
See below for monikered aluminium (white) dials, bat-wings and scuff plates:
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