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Hi everyone, Re-purposing garage. Been a while since I've owned a porsche have previously had 997's. If I want a car to track which is going to be reliable and enjoyable (have never tracked before but want this car to do that in) and thinking about £100k what would you suggest from the Porsche stable? Was thinking of ordering a 718 GT4 new; what's the wait time on these if it's even possible to order these days?! Interested in people's thoughts. Thanks

991.1 gt3 or GT4 would be my choice, plenty second hand to choose from at the mo too, just in time for this summers track days :-)

^ what he said

whj said: 991.1 gt3 or GT4 would be my choice, plenty second hand to choose from at the mo too, just in time for this summers track days :-) Thanks. Yes, can see some on for sale but if I were a patient man (given other cars), could spec my own GT4 and wait? Or is that not an option these days?

Serious supply issues, and talk of production ending imminently days you won't get a new 718 GT4 if you don't already have an order in. A used one would be my choice for your brief all day long, over and above a GT3.

goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Yes, can see some on for sale but if I were a patient man (given other cars), could spec my own GT4 and wait? Or is that not an option these days? You will be waiting ages and I`m not sure if I`m making it up , but I thought I read that dealers are not taking GT4 orders anymore - might be worth a quick phone call. You can get a PDK GT4 for £105k today that will be as new.

whj said: 991.1 gt3 or GT4 would be my choice, plenty second hand to choose from at the mo too, just in time for this summers track days :-) Basically this. Don’t think you’ll get a brand new order 718 GT4 anytime soon. In fact I believe order book is closed on these now? GT4 will be a bit cheaper to run if you keep it long enough to get to get into servicing and maintenance windows. 991.1 GT3 drivetrain is sensational at full chat and PDK give you options and capacity. Can’t go wrong either way.

Don't waste your breath trying to order a new one as there are plenty hardly driven used cars for sale. You have two choices as others have said, either a 718GT4(PDK or Manual) or 991.1GT3. With the latter check what engine it has fitted(G series much preferred) With a 718GT4 you have a choice of both Manual and PDK, both with pros and cons. Whichever one you choose make sure its got the 918 Buckets and rollcage to fit harnesses. Another point is that the GT4 will be much easier to push on track for a novice as there isn't the need to manage the weight transfer to such a degree as the GT3 on corner entry which can be very tricky to perfect but rewarding when you get it right. My first choice would be the GT4 as its newer, under Porsche warranty and easier to push hard. ETA £100k a great and sensible budget as going much higher gets you in trouble with track insurance and value concerns which will stop you pushing anywhere near your limits. Edited by Taffy66 on Saturday 23 April 11:21

Cup car would be a good option for track only driving

goatherder2001 said: Hi everyone, Re-purposing garage. Been a while since I've owned a porsche have previously had 997's. If I want a car to track which is going to be reliable and enjoyable (have never tracked before but want this car to do that in) and thinking about £100k what would you suggest from the Porsche stable? Was thinking of ordering a 718 GT4 new; what's the wait time on these if it's even possible to order these days?! Interested in people's thoughts. Thanks hint hint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6nzdpYD4Ck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJPJxOndCXQ ...as £100K to get into something you haven't ever done seems incredibly risky to me.....at least do a few track days with a hire before betting £100K on the farm.

Just be aware that a GT3 has a Porsche Motorsport engine and GT4 doesn't (as good as the engine is though). Not that it makes huge amount of difference to us mere mortal drivers as both cars are rockets on track

I’ve never understood why you would buy a £100k car for trackdays, especially when you haven’t done one before. Start with something much cheaper to learn.

DMC2 said: I’ve never understood why you would buy a £100k car for trackdays, especially when you haven’t done one before. Start with something much cheaper to learn. Agreed. Track insurance cover is getting harder these days and it's unlikely to get any easier. However, if you have the £££ and can either afford to lose it or can get the insurance then why not!

DMC2 said: I’ve never understood why you would buy a £100k car for trackdays, especially when you haven’t done one before. Start with something much cheaper to learn. Well, it wouldn't exclusively be used on track but point taken. I have other cars to use

whj said: 991.1 gt3 or GT4 would be my choice, plenty second hand to choose from at the mo too, just in time for this summers track days :-) Thanks

Taffy66 said: Don't waste your breath trying to order a new one as there are plenty hardly driven used cars for sale. You have two choices as others have said, either a 718GT4(PDK or Manual) or 991.1GT3. With the latter check what engine it has fitted(G series much preferred) With a 718GT4 you have a choice of both Manual and PDK, both with pros and cons. Whichever one you choose make sure its got the 918 Buckets and rollcage to fit harnesses. Another point is that the GT4 will be much easier to push on track for a novice as there isn't the need to manage the weight transfer to such a degree as the GT3 on corner entry which can be very tricky to perfect but rewarding when you get it right. My first choice would be the GT4 as its newer, under Porsche warranty and easier to push hard. ETA £100k a great and sensible budget as going much higher gets you in trouble with track insurance and value concerns which will stop you pushing anywhere near your limits. Edited by Taffy66 on Saturday 23 April 11:21 Thanks for the detailed response

julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: Hi everyone, Re-purposing garage. Been a while since I've owned a porsche have previously had 997's. If I want a car to track which is going to be reliable and enjoyable (have never tracked before but want this car to do that in) and thinking about £100k what would you suggest from the Porsche stable? Was thinking of ordering a 718 GT4 new; what's the wait time on these if it's even possible to order these days?! Interested in people's thoughts. Thanks hint hint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6nzdpYD4Ck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJPJxOndCXQ ...as £100K to get into something you haven't ever done seems incredibly risky to me.....at least do a few track days with a hire before betting £100K on the farm. Thanks. Will consider

You can pick up a nearly new 718 gt4 between 105k to 115k. If you could get a late 2021 car or early 2022 car you have the bonus of the 3 year factory warranty.

goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Will consider please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first!

julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Will consider please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Well, I never said I hadn't driven one or would indeed drive one first before signing on the dotted line but point taken!

goatherder2001 said: julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Will consider please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Well, I never said I hadn't driven one or would indeed drive one first before signing on the dotted line but point taken! go with Chris's Harris's advice....get the R.

julian987R said: please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Since when is £100k a fortune ? I think its a relatively sensible budget for a sports car for occasional track use, while getting a virtually new car still under factory warranty and no high wear items needing imminent replacement. Its all very well buying an older Porsche for much less lolly but potentially big bills and no warranty. You need to look at the whole picture not just the initial purchase price.

julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Will consider please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Well, I never said I hadn't driven one or would indeed drive one first before signing on the dotted line but point taken! go with Chris's Harris's advice....get the R. Hey, sure, why not!?

Taffy66 said: julian987R said: please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Since when is £100k a fortune ? I think its a relatively sensible budget for a sports car for occasional track use, while getting a virtually new car still under factory warranty and no high wear items needing imminent replacement. Its all very well buying an older Porsche for much less lolly but potentially big bills and no warranty. You need to look at the whole picture not just the initial purchase price. It is not a fortune, indeed. But to buy something at that price to partake in an activity/hobby that one has never ever tried seems like a strange approach. If i was interested in learning the piano I wouldn't go and buy a Bösendorfer before I'd at least had a lesson or two and given it a go first. Its not a fortune but smacks of having more money than sense, to me. But hey, hats off to he/she if they want to go all in on something.

julian987R said: Taffy66 said: julian987R said: please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Since when is £100k a fortune ? I think its a relatively sensible budget for a sports car for occasional track use, while getting a virtually new car still under factory warranty and no high wear items needing imminent replacement. Its all very well buying an older Porsche for much less lolly but potentially big bills and no warranty. You need to look at the whole picture not just the initial purchase price. It is not a fortune, indeed. But to buy something at that price to partake in an activity/hobby that one has never ever tried seems like a strange approach. If i was interested in learning the piano I wouldn't go and buy a Bösendorfer before I'd at least had a lesson or two and given it a go first. Its not a fortune but smacks of having more money than sense, to me. But hey, hats off to he/she if they want to go all in on something. My lack of "sense" has put me in a position where I can entertain this idea 😉

goatherder2001 said: Hi everyone, Re-purposing garage. Been a while since I've owned a porsche have previously had 997's. If I want a car to track which is going to be reliable and enjoyable ( have never tracked before but want this car to do that in ) and thinking about £100k what would you suggest from the Porsche stable? Was thinking of ordering a 718 GT4 new; what's the wait time on these if it's even possible to order these days?! Interested in people's thoughts. Thanks If you've never tracked before have you considered going on something like a PalmerSport Day | to see what type of car you prefer on track. Much as I love 911's they can be expensive to run on track and I'd probably opt for a Caterham 420R which would probably be more fun and cost far less. Just a thought.

You’ve previously enjoyed a 997. The GT3 club sport version can be bought under budget. https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13275649 Apparently just one ‘elderly’ owner previously. Most 911 owners have silver hair, but I’m not sure that there are many elderly blokes climbing into their bucket seats and doing up their 4 point harness!

Grantstown said: You’ve previously enjoyed a 997. The GT3 club sport version can be bought under budget. https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13275649 Apparently just one ‘elderly’ owner previously. Most 911 owners have silver hair, but I’m not sure that there are many elderly blokes climbing into their bucket seats and doing up their 4 point harness! That one is one to steer away from. Accident damaged, paint oddities and a whole host of other points.

julian987R said: Grantstown said: You’ve previously enjoyed a 997. The GT3 club sport version can be bought under budget. https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13275649 Apparently just one ‘elderly’ owner previously. Most 911 owners have silver hair, but I’m not sure that there are many elderly blokes climbing into their bucket seats and doing up their 4 point harness! That one is one to steer away from. Accident damaged, paint oddities and a whole host of other points. Must have been the dodgy elderly owner!

Only on PH is 100k on a car, let alone a track car, "not a fortune". OP - why not use your CS? Or McLaren? As others have suggested, if you've never been on track, go to something like Palmersport or places you can hire a 7 or similar and see if you like it and get some tuition. Obviously being non-PH, I wouldn't be spending 100k on a track car. Too much can go wrong. And if you want a proper hoon, running costs get excessive. I have a 7 for that sort of use. Cheap as chips running costs (in PH alternate reality at least) , and quicker than the cars you're deliberating. Easy to fix if you bend it too. Atoms, Radicals etc are also options. You already have nice metal in your garage. If you're put off using those, I don't see why a GT3 or GT4 will end up any different.

/\ What he said We’ve got an S1 Elise, which we have modified as our track car. Bought and run it with a like minded car mad mate, split the bills and have loads of fun. Sharing something makes it even better for me. Gratuitous photo: A track car at £100k doesn’t make a lot of sense for me. Seriously expensive on tyres and mechanicals pretty quickly which will start to add up if you track regularly… At Atom is a good shout. As would an Exige, or Caterham. All light, adjustable and cheap for running costs compared to a lot of other cars. You’d also do well not to discount a ….whisper it….. modified MX5, individual throttle bodies can be added by BBR, new suspension etc….absolute weapon and massively enjoyable on track. Or a modified Clio…hilariously grippy, punch engine..way more than the sum of their parts. Great fun. Or a GT4….if you must

julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Will consider please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Well, I never said I hadn't driven one or would indeed drive one first before signing on the dotted line but point taken! go with Chris's Harris's advice from 2011....get the R. Unless things have moved on since then... Edited for accuracy.

BubblesNW said: julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: julian987R said: goatherder2001 said: Thanks. Will consider please do as you haven't thought this through...at all. In danger of blowing a fortune on something you haven't even tried, and that goes for road use too....at least test drive one first! Well, I never said I hadn't driven one or would indeed drive one first before signing on the dotted line but point taken! go with Chris's Harris's advice from 2011....get the R. Unless things have moved on since then... Edited for accuracy. Very wise. However, things haven't really moved on since then in terms of a good Porsche entry point to the track, at a sensible price.

I am not trying to be negative here (and obviously I have no idea of your natural driving ability etc) but I would recommend starting on something slower/cheaper first before moving up. you'll learn a lot and have less chance of feeling embarassed that's how I did it for a couple of a years anyway (clio track car to lotus to faster things)

This is making me feel like going out and buying a Clío!

Can't add much more to the answers already provided, other than.... spend a few thousand £££'s on track lessons with a professional, then buy the Cayman R, or similar. Just don't spunk £100k on something that kills you because you couldn't handle it. You may well be able to chuck a GT3 around a track with ease of course and if so, go ahead and do as you wish!

Grantstown said: This is making me feel like going out and buying a Clío! it was actually a super fun car to drive in and didn't have to worry about damaging it as much !

goatherder2001 said: My lack of "sense" has put me in a position where I can entertain this idea ?? I applaud this. Good man. I was in your shoes recently and bought a LHD 997.2 GT3 Clubsport. For trackdays and road trips. Also, consider a 996.2 GT3 Clubbie or a 981 GT4 and spend some ££ on the gearing, suspension and brakes. You’ll be fine on track. Just get some tuition at the start and occasionally thereafter. Enjoy.

The OP has clearly stated that he has a budget of £100k which I appreciate is a huge amount of money to some to take on track. Lets respect his budget and not advise him that its too high and too good a car for him. A nice 718GT4 sounds like the perfect car for him without going OTT.

Taffy66 said: The OP has clearly stated that he has a budget of £100k which I appreciate is a huge amount of money to some to take on track. Lets respect his budget and not advise him that its too high and too good a car for him. A nice 718GT4 sounds like the perfect car for him without going OTT. The budget and car is not in question, is it their mindset to how they arrived at their decision and people are just looking out for them to make them realise they might be a bit loco and to propose alternative options.

julian987R said: Taffy66 said: The OP has clearly stated that he has a budget of £100k which I appreciate is a huge amount of money to some to take on track. Lets respect his budget and not advise him that its too high and too good a car for him. A nice 718GT4 sounds like the perfect car for him without going OTT. The budget and car is not in question, is it their mindset to how they arrived at their decision and people are just looking out for them to make them realise they might be a bit loco and to propose alternative options. I think I'm going to go for a 765LT Spider. Meant to be a good track car

goatherder2001 said: julian987R said: Taffy66 said: The OP has clearly stated that he has a budget of £100k which I appreciate is a huge amount of money to some to take on track. Lets respect his budget and not advise him that its too high and too good a car for him. A nice 718GT4 sounds like the perfect car for him without going OTT. The budget and car is not in question, is it their mindset to how they arrived at their decision and people are just looking out for them to make them realise they might be a bit loco and to propose alternative options. I think I'm going to go for a 765LT Spider. Meant to be a good track car That’s a hell of a leap for a trackday novice. I would check out the McLaren policy on Trackdays with regard to warranty, apparently there are couple of expensive hoops to jump through before and after each one. Hence why you see them with numberplates taped over on track. They are epically quick on track though.

goatherder2001 said: I think I'm going to go for a 765LT Spider. Meant to be a good track car I think you'd be better off going all in on a Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+

goatherder2001 said: I think I'm going to go for a 765LT Spider. Meant to be a good track car Excellent choice

goatherder2001 said: I think I'm going to go for a 765LT Spider. Meant to be a good track car What is it you want to get from a track day? What do you want a "good track car" to be? I'd say all three cars you've suggested are pretty different, other than them all being over £100k.

Taffy66 said: The OP has clearly stated that he has a budget of £100k which I appreciate is a huge amount of money to some to take on track. Lets respect his budget and not advise him that its too high and too good a car for him. A nice 718GT4 sounds like the perfect car for him without going OTT. Cheers, Taffy. I swear a lot of these posters are my mother in disguise

WCZ said: I am not trying to be negative here (and obviously I have no idea of your natural driving ability etc) but I would recommend starting on something slower/cheaper first before moving up. you'll learn a lot and have less chance of feeling embarassed that's how I did it for a couple of a years anyway (clio track car to lotus to faster things) I do have a racing legend in my family. Must be something in the genes

PGNSagaris said: goatherder2001 said: My lack of "sense" has put me in a position where I can entertain this idea ?? I applaud this. Good man. I was in your shoes recently and bought a LHD 997.2 GT3 Clubsport. For trackdays and road trips. Also, consider a 996.2 GT3 Clubbie or a 981 GT4 and spend some ££ on the gearing, suspension and brakes. You’ll be fine on track. Just get some tuition at the start and occasionally thereafter. Enjoy. Nice. Thanks for the pointers. Appreciate it

goatherder2001 said: Cheers, Taffy. I swear a lot of these posters are my mother in disguise More like politicians who have a natural aversion to answer specific questions in a direct manner.

Just to add a little perspective perhaps. Firstly I agree £100k is alot of money to most people. When dealing with the topic of a track car though , it gets a little muddy. Yes you can buy a £500 car and rag it on track and if it breaks you leave it there ! Very cheap , arguably the same thrills as an expensive car but the OP is not looking for that sort of experience. I`d argue that he , like me , wants to drive the car to track. Kick its head in all day , and then drive it home and possibility take the scenic route to and from for some extra fun, enjoy the interior and have some sort of modern connectivity. Get home park it up , clean it and then put it back to bed until the next time. Rinse and repeat with even the possibility of a Sunday run somewhere. No checking of this and that. Replacing this and that. Maybe a service every couple of years , perhaps a set of tyres and all in the knowledge, you have a bumper to bumper warranty with no small print about track activity. Unfortunately , the above compromises limit the sort of car we are talking about keeping it about a "normal" car. Things like Lotus, Caterhams , Atoms are slightly different and I am not talking about them. The list left to choose from is very small and mostly populated by Porsche with their several offerings from road cars that are good on an occasional trackday to GT & RS models that are good on track and an occasional road day ! I`ve had my fare share of cars and all have been run round the tracks. From Focus RS`s that eat tyres and brakes for breakfast to a caterham that was a hoot and cheap as chips. My 550bhp Evo 8 was an animal on the track using slicks but after each trackday , the thing needed a full service ! All of the group I know, have now seen the light and all now own a Porsche to participate in exactly what the OP wants to do. Be it a GT4 or a GT3 or a Cayman GTS, they soak up trackday punishment like a sponge. Agreed you have to pay a premium for that , but thats life. 7k fun miles including 10 trackdays and all I have done is one service and a set of tyres. Its also worth more than I bought it for weirdly due to the current car market ! Cant argue with that

Far Cough said: Just to add a little perspective perhaps. Firstly I agree £100k is alot of money to most people. When dealing with the topic of a track car though , it gets a little muddy. Yes you can buy a £500 car and rag it on track and if it breaks you leave it there ! Very cheap , arguably the same thrills as an expensive car but the OP is not looking for that sort of experience. I`d argue that he , like me , wants to drive the car to track. Kick its head in all day , and then drive it home and possibility take the scenic route to and from for some extra fun, enjoy the interior and have some sort of modern connectivity. Get home park it up , clean it and then put it back to bed until the next time. Rinse and repeat with even the possibility of a Sunday run somewhere. No checking of this and that. Replacing this and that. Maybe a service every couple of years , perhaps a set of tyres and all in the knowledge, you have a bumper to bumper warranty with no small print about track activity. Unfortunately , the above compromises limit the sort of car we are talking about keeping it about a "normal" car. Things like Lotus, Caterhams , Atoms are slightly different and I am not talking about them. The list left to choose from is very small and mostly populated by Porsche with their several offerings from road cars that are good on an occasional trackday to GT & RS models that are good on track and an occasional road day ! I`ve had my fare share of cars and all have been run round the tracks. From Focus RS`s that eat tyres and brakes for breakfast to a caterham that was a hoot and cheap as chips. My 550bhp Evo 8 was an animal on the track using slicks but after each trackday , the thing needed a full service ! All of the group I know, have now seen the light and all now own a Porsche to participate in exactly what the OP wants to do. Be it a GT4 or a GT3 or a Cayman GTS, they soak up trackday punishment like a sponge. Agreed you have to pay a premium for that , but thats life. 7k fun miles including 10 trackdays and all I have done is one service and a set of tyres. Its also worth more than I bought it for weirdly due to the current car market ! Cant argue with that This

Taffy66 said: goatherder2001 said: Cheers, Taffy. I swear a lot of these posters are my mother in disguise More like politicians who have a natural aversion to answer specific questions in a direct manner. Or perhaps wanting to give the benefit of personal experience so that people asking for advice get the most enjoyment possible having never been on track. The corollary to your point is politicians answering a very specific question in a very specific way, avoiding the public getting the answers they really need.... The OP has one of the best road/"race" cars over 100k (if, as it seems, the monetary value seems key) made in the 360CS. If you want a car of that ilk (360CS, GT3, GT4 etc) then he has one. Worried about its value? Breaking it? Well then at that point everyone giving more than superficial input is bang on the money Understanding what floats people's boats is important IMO, and not about money (one hopes). Though of course it's always possible there are those out there that take enjoyment in spaffing £100k on a toy, £1k per track day only to find themselves being lapped every other lap by an oik in a Clio or 7 or any number of other enjoyable track cars. Each to their own - it's better than those who buy these things and spend more time polishing them than driving IMO.

Yep, I was chatting with some pals yesterday at Oulton Park about our GT3s and GT4s. We all drove to the track in the morning, hooned about all day having an absolutel blast then drove to the pub afterwards. A drink and a debrief, then we headed our separate ways home at a leisurely pace. All in a single car that will get cleaned up then taken on a road trip, shopping trip, family visit, track day etc the next time it's used. Yes, they're expensive to buy initially, but as an ownership value proposition they actually make good financial sense given that Porsche GT cars have very little comparable competition when you look at the whole package.

Twinfan said: Yep, I was chatting with some pals yesterday at Oulton Park about our GT3s and GT4s. We all drove to the track in the morning, hooned about all day having an absolutel blast then drove to the pub afterwards. A drink and a debrief, then we headed our separate ways home at a leisurely pace. All in a single car that will get cleaned up then taken on a road trip, shopping trip, family visit, track day etc the next time it's used. Yes, they're expensive to buy initially, but as an ownership value proposition they actually make good financial sense given that Porsche GT cars have very little comparable competition when you look at the whole package. Nice way of putting it. My business life doesn't give me much time for track days and only manage a few every year. My current RS WP has recently shot up in value to over £250K which makes track day insurance expensive and a pain. I only mention this to add some perspective and currently considering a big downgrade in the value of my track day car down to £100k . Narrowing it down to only Porsche(PCGB member) I can't think of a better car than a 718GT4 Clubsport without the hassle of running an older car out of warranty.

Taffy66 said: I only mention this to add some perspective and currently considering a big downgrade in the value of my track day car down to £100k . Narrowing it down to only Porsche(PCGB member) I can't think of a better car than a 718GT4 Clubsport without the hassle of running an older car out of warranty. There were around a dozen or so 981 and 718 GT4s at Oulton Park yesterday, and there's a good reason why they're the Porsche track day car of choice. Fabulous chassis, enough power for the smaller/older circuits and not too much so that you don't really feel like you're letting the car stretch its legs. There were several GT4 drivers there that were pretty much on a par with some of the GT3/GT3RS drivers. Their driving ability making up for the 80bhp less they were up against.

Sounds like good advice Re: GT4 above. The RS guys will say no, but you could get a basic 991.2 carrera. Take it to Litchfield motors for a tune to 500 bhp and the more aggressive chassis set up they’ve developed for their carrera T. Maybe add the GT3 brake master cylinder and track pads as well. You’d be well under budget and have plenty of cash to spend on fancy track biased tyres.

Twinfan said: There were around a dozen or so 981 and 718 GT4s at Oulton Park yesterday, and there's a good reason why they're the Porsche track day car of choice. Fabulous chassis, enough power for the smaller/older circuits and not too much so that you don't really feel like you're letting the car stretch its legs. There were several GT4 drivers there that were pretty much on a par with some of the GT3/GT3RS drivers. Their driving ability making up for the 80bhp less they were up against. And by way of an example of what I said above re. the 718 GT4:

As new as possible GT4 sounds to me like the most obvious choice.

Twinfan said: And by way of an example of what I said above re. the 718 GT4: 'Looked like a '54 in there ... sweet !

OP I was in a very similar position to yours 2 years ago, with a £100k budget for a reliable track car but no prior experience doing trackdays. I ended up with 718 GTS 4.0 (passed on the GT4 for a very mundane reason, namely that I wouldn’t be able to drive it up and down the steep ramp to my underground car park; otherwise it would have been GT4, for sure). I did however buy a 2009 MX5 NC for £6k and did my first 4-5 trackdays in that. I also took instruction which was invaluable.

Taffy66 said: Nice way of putting it. My business life doesn't give me much time for track days and only manage a few every year. My current RS WP has recently shot up in value to over £250K which makes track day insurance expensive and a pain. I only mention this to add some perspective and currently considering a big downgrade in the value of my track day car down to £100k . Narrowing it down to only Porsche(PCGB member) I can't think of a better car than a 718GT4 Clubsport without the hassle of running an older car out of warranty. I’ve read that Clubsport GT4 needs 2 people to run it on trackdays - is that true? Would you trailer the car or drive to track in it?

I think he means the GT4 with the clubsport package , not the CUP car which is not road legal and means alot more faffing !!

Twinfan said: And by way of an example of what I said above re. the 718 GT4: Tidy Lap! Looks like a little understeer in the slower corners, Stock car?

dontdobends said: Twinfan said: And by way of an example of what I said above re. the 718 GT4: Tidy Lap! Looks like a little understeer in the slower corners, Stock car? Yep stock… mild geo…stock parts only, pagid pads.

goatherder2001 said: Hi everyone, Re-purposing garage. Been a while since I've owned a porsche have previously had 997's. If I want a car to track which is going to be reliable and enjoyable (have never tracked before but want this car to do that in) and thinking about £100k what would you suggest from the Porsche stable? Was thinking of ordering a 718 GT4 new; what's the wait time on these if it's even possible to order these days?! Interested in people's thoughts. Thanks Buy a Caterham - not the end of the world if you damage it! (And that’s me speaking as a GT4 clubsport owner!).

finmac said: Buy a Caterham - not the end of the world if you damage it! (And that’s me speaking as a GT4 clubsport owner!). That is a whole other level of commitment ..........

finmac said: Buy a Caterham - not the end of the world if you damage it! (And that’s me speaking as a GT4 clubsport owner!). Totally agree with this. And I have two GT products. Caterham on a track that’s driven there by your race team is nirvana

I have a group of supercar ownng friends who regularly do track days. Various cars have been flavour of the month with them over the years but it is noticable how many of settled on, or gone back to, Cayman GT4s for track days.They obviously aren't the quickest or most special but arguably they are "just right". (I've recently got a 981 GT4 and tbh I am not yet sure how I feel about it, but its not been out on track yet so I am holding off making judgement)