How to get a GT3 slot? - Page 3 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

Entertain me for a minute, as I'm sure this has been discussed hundreds of times, but I'm interested to know. I am not a serial Porsche owner (Boxster, 997GTS, 991GTS & 992 Targa GTS) of which I bought the Boxster & the Targa GTS from my local OPC, and the others from independants. I've also a deposit down on another Targa GTS for new year to replace the current one. I've always used my local OPC for servicing on all the cars, if that matters, and sold my previous 991GTS to them in px for the 992 Targa. Life is going well, money is not the issue, but I have little to no interest in paying 'overs' for a car. I'm currently in the process of looking for another 'family' car as well which I'm currently torn between a Range Rover or a replacement Etron, however could consider a Cayenne if it would help, although quite honest just prefer the others mentioned. So... how to get a GT3 slot for a gen2 car when they are released ? Is it simply put my name down and hope for the best, or is there deals to be done on agreeing p/x figures on the Targa which are obviously currently trading at overs ? By which I mean would agreeing to sell back at list, or even below list to give the OPC stock be a discussion to have. I'm coming up to 50, and absolutely love the Targa as it offers the speed, comfort, and the ability to have the roof down (without being as exposed as a full convertible), but would love to own a GT3. I'm assuming there is little chance, but thought I'd ask the collective PH masses for their thoughts, as obviously many will have been in the same position at some point.

Become a Youtuber it seems. I have bought a few cars from Guildford and haven't been offered a GT4 slot let alone one for a GT3 but it seems the chap from social media has managed to get a car with a very modest buying history with the dealer.

If money no issue, I'd pay the overs. Or wait, put in loads of phone calls at loads of OPCs and you might get lucky. How much is your time and effort worth. It won't be 'free', even if you'd get the car cheaper. As things stand, you want something where demand outstrips supply. So I don't really understand the objection to the overs. It's a thoroughly natural state of affairs. I'm sure you pay inflated demand-drive rates for all kinds of things. Indeed, even with the overs the margin on a GT3 won't be anywhere near the huge mark ups on most luxury goods which can easily be 10x or more the cost to produce the product. The clock is ticking on these cars on several fronts - ability to use ICE cars and drive them everywhere, ability to buy new / nearly new ICE cars, experimentation with blanket 20mph minor road speed limits etc. If you can easily afford it, would think it makes sense to lose the hairshirt, get it bought, get driving and get enjoying something fantastic while you can. Ultimately you've got a fairly mainstream desire for a very popular luxury good. It's gonna cost you. Attempts to resist that are fairly futile. Cough up or go after something a bit less obvious, would be the really harsh conclusion. Ultimately, I'd get your bum into the car and don't stress the overs. You'll have the last laugh, provided that is you're interested in driving the car. More complicated if the purchase is more about access to perceived exclusivity etc, in which case I think people get upset that they're not important enough to be on the list, and hence paying overs is an ego issue!

Being cash rich I would wait until the winter months when the crap really hits the fan and re access the situation! I for one I wouldn’t buy an expensive car at the moment I will wait it out. It’s happened before and fingers were burnt! And although a second hand gt3 may come down in price and imo it will as the overs are ridiculous your current Porsche car will be hit harder.

GT4P said: Being cash rich I would wait until the winter months when the crap really hits the fan and re access the situation! I for one I wouldn’t buy an expensive car at the moment I will wait it out. It’s happened before and fingers were burnt! And although a second hand gt3 may come down in price and imo it will as the overs are ridiculous your current Porsche car will be hit harder. This. The market is at its last breath. We are approaching record high interest rates, fuel rates etc and this combined with the fact that there are still backlogs in the supply chain has created this “dead cat bounce”. We are looking into a very uncertain future so I would simply sit back and wait. There will be opportunities coming later this year. YouTubers might have received their cars as a priority but that is a failing business model, when you need to constantly buy the newest and the greatest in order to create content.

Hobo said: Entertain me for a minute, as I'm sure this has been discussed hundreds of times, but I'm interested to know. I am not a serial Porsche owner (Boxster, 997GTS, 991GTS & 992 Targa GTS) of which I bought the Boxster & the Targa GTS from my local OPC, and the others from independants. I've also a deposit down on another Targa GTS for new year to replace the current one. I've always used my local OPC for servicing on all the cars, if that matters, and sold my previous 991GTS to them in px for the 992 Targa. Life is going well, money is not the issue, but I have little to no interest in paying 'overs' for a car. I'm currently in the process of looking for another 'family' car as well which I'm currently torn between a Range Rover or a replacement Etron, however could consider a Cayenne if it would help, although quite honest just prefer the others mentioned. So... how to get a GT3 slot for a gen2 car when they are released ? Is it simply put my name down and hope for the best, or is there deals to be done on agreeing p/x figures on the Targa which are obviously currently trading at overs ? By which I mean would agreeing to sell back at list, or even below list to give the OPC stock be a discussion to have. I'm coming up to 50, and absolutely love the Targa as it offers the speed, comfort, and the ability to have the roof down (without being as exposed as a full convertible), but would love to own a GT3. I'm assuming there is little chance, but thought I'd ask the collective PH masses for their thoughts, as obviously many will have been in the same position at some point. What's the difference between paying over its for a car that you want, or selling a car to the OPC at under market value - surely it amounts to the same thing?

Sport_Turismo_GTS said: What's the difference between paying over its for a car that you want, or selling a car to the OPC at under market value - surely it amounts to the same thing? Suppose the difference is generally having a relationship with an OPC or just buying/selling through independants constantly, and I was hoping for the former. That, and obviously the ability to spec the exact car you would like. Edited by Hobo on Thursday 18th August 11:55

Maybe take a 991.1 GT3 off your local OPCs hands when they next have one and assess how much you really like the GT3 experience. You’ll also have upped your game with the ‘relationship’ building, especially if you order a Cayenne as well so maybe you’ll have a chance. By the same token you might find that the GT3 doesn’t really suit you and then you can disregard building a relationship and just order a series model as and when. GT3s do seem to be regularly up for grabs with multiple owners in a relatively short space of time. I suspect that they will eventually fall into enthusiasts hands, like the 997s, but in the early years there are many people for whom the car doesn’t really suit and the speculators of course.

If you have a good relationship with your OPC just ask the question, but be ready for a shock. I know three owners of new GT3’s and each one has a different buying path. But what they do have in common is they cycle through a shed load of Porsches and track there GT’s. Be that’s serval GT’s or lots of family cars or a combination of both. Rightly or wrongly Porsche ideally wants in there GT lower volume cars to be seen. Preferably in there intended environment. Or you bite the bullet and pay overs on a used one. As RS’s are delivered I’d imagine a few more will hit the market. Current inflation is in very direct areas and won’t really hurt your average new GT3 driver.

Don't waste your time doing letters of intent or e mails talking to the sales guys or even new car sales manager but go straight to the top grab the bull by the horns and make an appointment to have a chat with the Centre Principal or Dealer Pricipal or if you have the 'balls' you could even try and meet the Franchise Director who's decision it is who ultimately receives Potsche GT allocations depending on the OPC group. If your story is convincing enough and they like you enough you may just receive an allocation but the odds are massively against you unfortunately as Porsche GTs are getting harder to get and not just because of Covid and reduced production one of my OPCs have received just 2 992 GT3s and this appears fairly typical group dependent. I am still amazed who managed to receive a 911R allocation from one of my OPCs a few years back and it wasn't a regular Porsche buyer. I failed to get one. He still has the car btw.

hornbaek said: GT4P said: Being cash rich I would wait until the winter months when the crap really hits the fan and re access the situation! I for one I wouldn’t buy an expensive car at the moment I will wait it out. It’s happened before and fingers were burnt! And although a second hand gt3 may come down in price and imo it will as the overs are ridiculous your current Porsche car will be hit harder. This. The market is at its last breath. We are approaching record high interest rates, fuel rates etc and this combined with the fact that there are still backlogs in the supply chain has created this “dead cat bounce”. We are looking into a very uncertain future so I would simply sit back and wait. There will be opportunities coming later this year. YouTubers might have received their cars as a priority but that is a failing business model, when you need to constantly buy the newest and the greatest in order to create content. Yep this.

hornbaek said: This. The market is at its last breath. We are approaching record high interest rates, fuel rates etc and this combined with the fact that there are still backlogs in the supply chain has created this “dead cat bounce”. We are looking into a very uncertain future so I would simply sit back and wait. There will be opportunities coming later this year. YouTubers might have received their cars as a priority but that is a failing business model, when you need to constantly buy the newest and the greatest in order to create content. Very much this. New GT3 owners may question the logic of having a rarely used deprecating car of that value (some, not all). Some may need the cash to inject into their business or could use the money for another opportunity if the stock market/ housing market etc falls.

How you get a GT3 slot: 1. Have a relationship with your local OPC 2. Change your Porsche at least once a year or have more than one at a time 3. Preferably have a 911 and Cayenne (or Taycan) that you change regularly 4. ALWAYS go back to the same OPC and trade them back your cars Contrary to what people say it does not cost a fortune. Buy a car from the first batch of any model, this means you can sell it back after a year with very little loss. In terms of ownership it costs less to buy and sell a new Porsche than it does a diesel 5 series BMW.

Have found that different people have gone down different paths, as said here already. Think you've bought enough cars to make an appointment with your salesperson (or more senior if you can do it without looking like an arse). Salesmen can organise allocations though. Think they make a case to their management. Explain that you're a genuine car and Porsche enthusiast, not just a luxury car buyer. Remind them of your commitment to the brand broadly, and then to the dealership (cars bought and cars traded in). Ask if you can have an allocation, and be clear that you won't flip it, as contrary to what's said on other threads here they don't like that. Best of luck.

You may get more chance with some OPC’s over others depending on how the DP runs his or her business - this still will give you little chance. Relationships tend to be rather one sided when the DP can pick and choose who he sells to and I personally doubt whether an individual SE can influence even the Sales Manager let alone the DP to grant you an allocation. When my previously preferred dealer suggested that buying my wife a Cayenne Turbo might get me on a list to be considered for him to then consider putting me on a short list for an RS I decided enough was enough - I have typed that all correctly. This was after 4 brand new 911’s and 2 brand new Cayennes and a GT3 and spending every penny on servicing etc with them. My problem was the above was over a few years whereas buying 6 a year would obviously have been the answer. I have also heard of some dealers at senior level involved in taking brown envelopes ( allegedly obviously ). If desperate for one and you aren’t a friend or preferred customer then paying overs and retaining the car for a few years seems a fair idea though. Moving manufacturers allegiance was my route albeit slightly cutting my own nose off.

Interesting question, we have bought 8 new cars from the same OPC over a number of years, one of which was a new 718 GT4 PDK (which was amazing) and we have a deposit down on a new 992 and expression of interest on two electric Macans when they are finally launched. We recently expressed our interest in the possibility of a new gt3 order in the future on the bases on them having the GT4 back to make a good profit on, we were politely turned away and told sorry this won’t be possible. This leaves us in a very difficult situation, we thought we had built a loyal relationship with our OPC buying new cars, buying extended warranties and using them for all serving and tyres over the years, but clearly we were wrong. I would also be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts and experiences. I’m a huge Porsche fan due to the quality and engineering, great level of customer service we have received from our opc service depart, but sadly this has made me think about the possibility of potentially trying a different brand.

Check this out! The 992 GT3 RS is finally announced! https://purelyporsche.com/the-992-gt3-rs-is-finall...

The way I got my 997 GT3 RS 4.0 back in the days and now the GT3 Touring as the first delivery from the OPC was quite straight forward. You simply select all the possible options on the list and also get some Porsche Exclusive Manufactur thrown in for good measure. Then you have pretty much created the most optioned new car possible and the OPC will do everything to get your car delivered as fast as possible so they can use your car as an template and show it to customers when they come in a spec their car. You end up with the most expensive new model, but at least you get it early, it is fully specced to your taste (and a bit more) and you don’t pay overs.

I'm waiting for my phone to ring with the offer of a order slot

DMC2 said: How you get a GT3 slot: 1. Have a relationship with your local OPC 2. Change your Porsche at least once a year or have more than one at a time 3. Preferably have a 911 and Cayenne (or Taycan) that you change regularly 4. ALWAYS go back to the same OPC and trade them back your cars Contrary to what people say it does not cost a fortune. Buy a car from the first batch of any model, this means you can sell it back after a year with very little loss. In terms of ownership it costs less to buy and sell a new Porsche than it does a diesel 5 series BMW. It's absolutely this. Don't pay any credence to the talk of underhand dealings. The most loyal customers to their respective OPC's get the limited cars. Obviously, a change in the macroeconomics will make a difference, but DMC is bang on with his post.

Not quite the same thing but we've bought several cars from our local OPC over the last 10 years and have dealt with the same sales person over most of that period. In addition, we've got to know the management team and most of the sales, service and back office team. I've never seen that as "building a relationship" we've just treated everyone with respect, never lost our tempers when things have gone wrong and taken time to talk to people rather than talk down to them which we've seen other customers do rather too frequently. We put down a deposit for a 718 4.0 GTS in late 2019 and asked about converting that into a Spyder when they were announced. We were told that would be unlikely but was offered a GT4 slot. I turned that down as I wanted a convertible. As we wanted a PDK we had to wait until later in 2020 for a confirmed GTS slot and then heard about the 25 Year Edition in Jan 2021 so again asked if we could convert the GTS slot into one of those and after a short wait was told yes we could. Ours was one of 2 that the OPC had been allocated and I heard they had a waiting list of more than 20 for that model. The car was finally delivered in October. I've seen some videos of people who have lost their tempers because they didn't get an allocation for a car they wanted and went on about how they spent lots of time building a relationship and buying cars and doing everything right to get the allocation only to told they couldn't have one. Sometimes being nice to people is just better than coming across as entitled and I think a lot of people can tell the difference. I know we're not our OPCs best customers and we certainly don't buy a new car every year. So perhaps we just got lucky or maybe we're just good customers but not in a financial sense. Sometimes you get what you want and sometimes you don't. That's life, accept it and move on. Edited by Voodoo Blue on Friday 19th August 14:19

Have bought 10 new Porsches over the years, driven a lot of milegae and always had serviced at OPC. Never bought anything didn't want, never bought a SUV, although very tempted with the Cayenne Turbo GT, and out of those ten, have had three GT3's, one GT4 and Boxster 25, so its not all about buying many multiples of cars every year just to get on the list.

Thanks for the responses. Think I'll just buy the Porsche's I want (and can get) and not try to get myself on a list by buying others which I don't really want (ie like a Cayenne), and just see how it goes.

Only bought GT/RS model ever so do not buy the other stuff . Not sure what the answer is as no real format. They also sell many to new customers , some their 1 st Porsche . Just state your intent and say call anytime and who knows . Been lucky and had interesting Porsche diving history

hunter 66 said: Only bought GT/RS model ever so do not buy the other stuff . Not sure what the answer is as no real format. They also sell many to new customers , some their 1 st Porsche . Just state your intent and say call anytime and who knows . Been lucky and had interesting Porsche diving history Hi! Hope you are well! Sad to see that GT03 FAB hasn’t moved for a few years now since I sold it. The poor old girl all locked up and nowhere to go!

The GT allocation games isn't worth playing to be honest. You'll rarely get a transparent response as to where you are on 'The List' and in my experience, you just get spun a yarn and strung along ordering cooking models. If you really want a GT3, I'd just pay sensible overs and Porsche isn't the only fruit available on the market.

hornbaek said: The way I got my 997 GT3 RS 4.0 back in the days and now the GT3 Touring as the first delivery from the OPC was quite straight forward. You simply select all the possible options on the list and also get some Porsche Exclusive Manufactur thrown in for good measure. Then you have pretty much created the most optioned new car possible and the OPC will do everything to get your car delivered as fast as possible so they can use your car as an template and show it to customers when they come in a spec their car. You end up with the most expensive new model, but at least you get it early, it is fully specced to your taste (and a bit more) and you don’t pay overs. That actually sounds plausible. How do you let them know of your intent to mega spec a car though? If you have an appointment with a sales rep, I bet they won't even let you spec a car and start with the usual spiel that their slots are all sold out. If you do it online and send the code to a dealer, do they actually call you back?

My experience has been like DMC2’s. I have always bought from the same local OPC and sold/offered cars back to them. I spec my cars ‘sensibly’, but always pretty high spec (e.g. PCCBs). I always ask politely if I can be put ‘on the waiting list’ for a car and I express how excited and grateful I am if I do get an allocation. Multiple times. The sales person I have dealt with over the years is now the DP and he knows I won’t mess him/his dealership around. The fact (it turns out) we both have grown up within 20 miles of each other probably doesn’t hurt. I am also very polite and know a fair number of the technicians/service department by name and they know me. I also keep my cars meticulously cleaned/maintained and the OPC staff know that. My history with this dealership (since 2013) is 981S (sold back), Macan GTS (still owned), 991.2 GTS, 718 Spyder and now waiting for a GT3 Touring (traded in the 718 Spyder for this - delivery in September) and a Targa 4S (delivery in December). I’ve never used Porsche finance. The other side of my garage is taken up by one or other Ferrari, which the DP also knows about. I think I have a very decent and upfront OPC/DP compared to what I read on here. I hope this helps you determine a way forward. Good luck.

Indeed , your DP sounds pretty decent ! Perhaps location also makes a difference.

As Hornb said “ back in the day “ it was definitely easier to get hold of one of the halo models but flipping also wasn’t around to such an extent. Irrespective of how nice one is I’m not sure any of the replies would help a new to Porsche buyer get an allocation but to the OP best of luck anyway.

GT4RS said: Interesting question, we have bought 8 new cars from the same OPC over a number of years, one of which was a new 718 GT4 PDK (which was amazing) and we have a deposit down on a new 992 and expression of interest on two electric Macans when they are finally launched. We recently expressed our interest in the possibility of a new gt3 order in the future on the bases on them having the GT4 back to make a good profit on, we were politely turned away and told sorry this won’t be possible. This leaves us in a very difficult situation, we thought we had built a loyal relationship with our OPC buying new cars, buying extended warranties and using them for all serving and tyres over the years, but clearly we were wrong. I would also be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts and experiences. I’m a huge Porsche fan due to the quality and engineering, great level of customer service we have received from our opc service depart, but sadly this has made me think about the possibility of potentially trying a different brand. When i read something like this from Porsche it makes my blood boil. Turn down point blank like this is both insulting and arrogant and after owning many Porsches makes me very negative to the brand also reading here the way they work ., i.e having to buy all the other s t they make , i hate there suv,s, caymans Taycans , I only like the gt cars to be honest.

First Sea Lord said: Have found that different people have gone down different paths, as said here already. Think you've bought enough cars to make an appointment with your salesperson (or more senior if you can do it without looking like an arse). Salesmen can organise allocations though. Think they make a case to their management. Explain that you're a genuine car and Porsche enthusiast, not just a luxury car buyer. Remind them of your commitment to the brand broadly, and then to the dealership (cars bought and cars traded in). Ask if you can have an allocation, and be clear that you won't flip it, as contrary to what's said on other threads here they don't like that. Best of luck. Except if it is flipping it back to them for them to flip it again...(Yes, this is happening to people that own the latest GT3, already)

hornbaek said: This. The market is at its last breath. We are approaching record high interest rates, fuel rates etc and this combined with the fact that there are still backlogs in the supply chain has created this “dead cat bounce”. We are looking into a very uncertain future so I would simply sit back and wait. There will be opportunities coming later this year. YouTubers might have received their cars as a priority but that is a failing business model, when you need to constantly buy the newest and the greatest in order to create content. Where are you getting record high interest rates from?, the last 2 generations have been spoilt on low to negative interest rates which says spend to the max as all will be good.I can see UK interest rates hitting 5% this time next year, and that would be a happy balance for everyone who likes to save and get a return on their money.The economy will shrink due to people maxing themselves out and won't harm the luxury car market which I guess is where GT cars belong.

jm8403 said: First Sea Lord said: Have found that different people have gone down different paths, as said here already. Think you've bought enough cars to make an appointment with your salesperson (or more senior if you can do it without looking like an arse). Salesmen can organise allocations though. Think they make a case to their management. Explain that you're a genuine car and Porsche enthusiast, not just a luxury car buyer. Remind them of your commitment to the brand broadly, and then to the dealership (cars bought and cars traded in). Ask if you can have an allocation, and be clear that you won't flip it, as contrary to what's said on other threads here they don't like that. Best of luck. Except if it is flipping it back to them for them to flip it again...(Yes, this is happening to people that own the latest GT3, already) They've given me precisely zero encouragement flip mine. The opposite in fact. It was made clear to me that one of the reasons I've been given an allocation was as they didn't think I'd flip it. They didn't say it, but it's implicit like any 'relationship', that they'd prefer I buy and trade my Macan / Boxster with them, and do my servicing with them, which I do. I also try not behave like a dick eg there was an issue with the Macan: some people could have been a royal PITA. I just said that I knew they'd sort it, and they did. Am not saying that this will get anyone on the list, but showing you're an enthusiast and being a decent customer has to help. That includes trading non GT cars into them so they can resell them given that they've sold out their new cars.

Just pay overs. Upside: you get a car much cheaper than forking out to buy years’ worth of depreciating more mundane metal Downside: it won’t be to your exact spec.

Discombobulate said: Just pay overs. Upside: you get a car much cheaper than forking out to buy years’ worth of depreciating more mundane metal Downside: it won’t be to your exact spec. Even better, get a 991 for 100-120k and have just as much fun.

Discombobulate said: Just pay overs. Upside: you get a car much cheaper than forking out to buy years’ worth of depreciating more mundane metal Downside: it won’t be to your exact spec. The severe restrictions on supply of the more mundane Porsches and rapidly rising new prices across the board has meant these have 'benefited' from a black market too with quite substantial premiums in some cases. This has meant it is now effectively cheaper to buy several mundane Porsches if a guaranteed GT allocation can be given in return rather than pay the c£70k+ record GT3 premiums the 992 is currently attracting. Whilst the 992 GT3 is a fantastic package at the money it is not a £180k + car and anyone paying the current £225k+ for a 1 year old can find better value elsewhere imo.

av185 said: The severe restrictions on supply of the more mundane Porsches and rapidly rising new prices across the board has meant these have 'benefited' from a black market too with quite substantial premiums in some cases. This has meant it is now effectively cheaper to buy several mundane Porsches if a guaranteed GT allocation can be given in return rather than pay the c£70k+ record GT3 premiums the 992 is currently attracting. Whilst the 992 GT3 is a fantastic package at the money it is not a £180k + car and anyone paying the current £225k+ for a 1 year old can find better value elsewhere imo. Short of Gordon Murray's new things, which nobody has driven, what's the better value new driver's car that's manual and NA? Actually what's the better car at any price at all regardless of value? People pay far more for restomods of frankly dubious quality than an overs 992 GT3. Even at £225k, the 992 looks like a bargain compared to a Paul Stephens 993 at £400k. Or any numbers of classics that go for more money. If you like turbos and paddles, it's a different ballgame obviously. But if you like manual and NA, plus a properly sorted chassis and primary controls in a totally usable and polished product, in terms of new cars the GT3 has everything this side of a T33 licked. There's nothing you'll enjoy remotely as much to drive. You could easily make an argument for a 992 GT3 being value at £500k. If a Singer makes sense at that price, 992 surely does too.

alscar said: As Hornb said “ back in the day “ it was definitely easier to get hold of one of the halo models but flipping also wasn’t around to such an extent. Irrespective of how nice one is I’m not sure any of the replies would help a new to Porsche buyer get an allocation but to the OP best of luck anyway. When I bought my first Porsche (a 2.5 Boxster) back in '99, it was used, 12 months old, but priced at list. Used cars were available in small numbers, dealers had a waiting list and so good spec cars were never even advertised. But there were no overs. A couple of OPCs told me that they couldn't sell them for more than list as Porsche GB would not let them. Times change, I guess.

Genuinely don't get why people want to play these games with Porsche...for the price you're paying overs for on a GT3 you're in the realm of some serious metal...675LT Spiders for example, sure it ain't N/A or manual but by all accounts an absolute weapon and a serious piece of kit. You could also save yourself 60-70k and make do with a 600LT Spider...but anyway keep buying those Cayennes and Panameras to maybe get on a list that might get u on the shortlist...so many other choices out there! Edited by RSbandit on Saturday 20th August 08:11

cayman-black said: GT4RS said: Interesting question, we have bought 8 new cars from the same OPC over a number of years, one of which was a new 718 GT4 PDK (which was amazing) and we have a deposit down on a new 992 and expression of interest on two electric Macans when they are finally launched. We recently expressed our interest in the possibility of a new gt3 order in the future on the bases on them having the GT4 back to make a good profit on, we were politely turned away and told sorry this won’t be possible. This leaves us in a very difficult situation, we thought we had built a loyal relationship with our OPC buying new cars, buying extended warranties and using them for all serving and tyres over the years, but clearly we were wrong. I would also be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts and experiences. I’m a huge Porsche fan due to the quality and engineering, great level of customer service we have received from our opc service depart, but sadly this has made me think about the possibility of potentially trying a different brand. When i read something like this from Porsche it makes my blood boil. Turn down point blank like this is both insulting and arrogant and after owning many Porsches makes me very negative to the brand also reading here the way they work ., i.e having to buy all the other s t they make , i hate there suv,s, caymans Taycans , I only like the gt cars to be honest. It is what it is, disappointing but it’s not worth getting upset about. The way I look at it is I have been fortunate enough to buy a number of new Porsches and I’m only 42, i would like to think there’s probably 12 new (fun) car purchases in my until I retire. These probably would of all gone to porsche, but this has now opened my eyes up on how the GT game really works and has started me looking at other brands. It will also be interesting to see how the world economy does pan out, I bought my first new porsche at 29 and at that time managed to get a 7k discount on a new car purchase because of the 2008 recession. It’s was a boxster and only around 44k list price. Sadly the Macan, Cayenne and Tycan has changed the type of porsche buyer and the dealerships, it’s not what it was.

gd said: alscar said: As Hornb said “ back in the day “ it was definitely easier to get hold of one of the halo models but flipping also wasn’t around to such an extent. Irrespective of how nice one is I’m not sure any of the replies would help a new to Porsche buyer get an allocation but to the OP best of luck anyway. When I bought my first Porsche (a 2.5 Boxster) back in '99, it was used, 12 months old, but priced at list. Used cars were available in small numbers, dealers had a waiting list and so good spec cars were never even advertised. But there were no overs. A couple of OPCs told me that they couldn't sell them for more than list as Porsche GB would not let them. Times change, I guess. Not sure about that for used stock back then but obviously OPCs still cannot sell unregistered cars over list. Further indication how things change reminds of only 9 years back in September 2013 whilst away on holiday I walked into a random OPC hundreds of miles out of my area with no buying history with them and secured one of the last run 991.1 GT3s. There was also a PHer on the 991.1 GT3 thread who cancelled his order and his OPC sold on his 2014 Racing Yellow car at list price despite the first cars selling at £30k to £40k premiums at the time.

jackwood said: Hi! Hope you are well! Sad to see that GT03 FAB hasn’t moved for a few years now since I sold it. The poor old girl all locked up and nowhere to go! Hi Jack always sad to see that ,as I am a serial user of cars . Have .2 RS now and done 22 k miles , but use my other cars ( GT2R and GT3 rs 01 ) a lot as well. Anyway keep well and happy motoring

It’s not about OPC’s selling above list - they don’t. It’s about certain DP’s “ always “ seemingly selling allocations to certain people with then the flip margin being shared I would suggest. You can be as nice as you want but with the type of overs being seen DP’s aren’t going to simply hand out lottery tickets without something in it for them. Porsche UK themselves don’t care because they can’t lose. It is what it is and applies to lots of different things in life so no point in any bitterness as I’m sure we would all do the same if the opportunity presented itself. However this is not about being “ enthusiasts “ or loyal customers - that won’t count for anything. Obviously I’m seriously generalising and I’m sure the occasional buyer has been in the right OPC at the right time to get one but I would suggest that’s extremely rare. Perhaps the forthcoming recession will change things but I doubt it so maybe Porsche should just charge more for them and / or make more of them.

I am reading this thread with interest, as I would like to upgrade to GT3 Touring. Sadly, I can’t even get 992 C2S , so no point getting excited about GT3.

Pivo said: I am reading this thread with interest, as I would like to upgrade to GT3 Touring. Sadly, I can’t even get 992 C2S , so no point getting excited about GT3. Life's too short mate take the £100k and get something far more interesting in the used market.

Pivo said: I am reading this thread with interest, as I would like to upgrade to GT3 Touring. Sadly, I can’t even get 992 C2S , so no point getting excited about GT3. But you could buy a used one tomorrow -you can't tell me you'd spec it that far removed (if not identical) to any of the other GT3s for sale currently.

Pivo said: I am reading this thread with interest, as I would like to upgrade to GT3 Touring. Sadly, I can’t even get 992 C2S , so no point getting excited about GT3. Go buy either a 997.2 GT3 or a 991.2 Touring. Both stellar cars and have things the 992 doesn't. Or pay the overs on the 992 if the money isn't a problem and stop sweating the OPC access thing. I think paying the overs is the more dignified (and far quicker) route to 992 Touring ownership than giving an OPC reach arounds for five years. Get into the car and sharpish. The clock is ticking on these things.