suspension ideas?

what is every one running are the BILSTEIN B16 (PSS10) worth it? thanks

Hey guys, just traded in my 2014 Subaru BRZ and picked up an '11 P4S and I'm really excited about picking it up next week! Been doing some research on the wheels and I noticed a lot of people are going with the 22" setups and I have a few questions that I hope some people will be able to help me out with (I tried to search it first but couldn't find much on it)! 1) How do 22" wheels affect the air suspension system? Does it affect it at all? 2) Is the ride noticeably bumpier/rougher vs a 20" setup? 3) Is there a good recommended tire setup for the 20" and 22" respectively? If I remember correctly, AWD cars have to take rolling diameter into consideration. If I could get away with the 22" and still get a comfortable ride, have a working air suspension system (so that I could raise it over driveway entrances, speedbumps, etc)... I really do like the aggressive look of the 22" setup. I have a feeling I'll end up with a 20" setup though for practical reasons. FWIW, I live in Canada so this question is specifically towards a summer setup as I'll be running on smaller winter tires during the colder months.

I have the slightly older version installed (PSS9) for several years now. If I did it again, I'd probably just install the ROW M030 and GT3 or H&R roll bars and spacers. Even with all the tinkering that can be done, I don't think most people adjust that much lower/stiffer from the ROW M030 european height the car was designed for.

Hi, I have a Panamera Turbo with 22s on it and have zero issues with my air ride. I drive in sports plus mode with the suspension all the way down 99% of the time. My setup is 265 30 22 fronts and 315 25 22's rear. Keep in mind if you go with 22's and decide on 315's for the rear (which is the best look) it will be limit you on tire choices. BTW...I live in the suburbs outside the Detroit area and drove this past winter on the 22's with ZERO issues thru snow. This year I will probably buy a set of 20's for the winter and or a winter car....more so because I'm worried about other people hitting me then me hitting them. Congrats on your new car!

Coilovers are nice, but check out the Bilstein Sport Shocks along with the Eibach lowering kit which has springs and sway bars for about half of the PSS10. Lowers the car about an inch.

There has been many threads about tire and wheel sizes, and I personally think you should do what you think works best (and in most cases looks best). I have been at the car mod thing a long (over 40 years) time and have lost count as to how many times I have pulled wheels and tires (I had three different sets of wheels and tires on the Gallardo I kept for two years) off all the cars I've owned. In the end I found that putting bigger wheels on a car always had a negative effect on its handling, though in the case of the Panamera I doubt most owners drive the car in a way that it would make that much of a difference since I also noticed the bigger and heavier the car was the less noticeable the change was. I am sure others here might even like the ride better and think it helps make it handle better. My most recent experience with a 650 coupe (I went from the 20" msport wheels with runflats to those wheels without runflats) that I ended up putting lightweight 19" wheels and Pole position tires, that change made me keep the car. I am a bit more picky about some aspects of a car than most people and mine is just an opinion. In the end you will be the judge of what works best for you. Congrats on your car enjoy it.

I agree with the fixed shock and lowering spring combo if you're a casual cruiser. If you plan on doing track days and DE's regularly, then I would get the new Ohlins setup for around the same cost as PSS10s.

Welcome. Running 22s on my 4s when I had it and also on my turbo zero issues and run in sport or sport plus most of the tjme. Big wheel wells you will be glad u ran the 2s

PSS9's since 2006 everday car regardless of weather and track time in the summer. Suspension has over 145,000km on them now. Raised every winter and Lowered every summer. Lifetime Warranty cant go wrong.

No one spoke of the air pressure they were using: In my pan 4 I reduced air pressure to 32 psi all around on Pirelli 255 20's and 295 20's and I had a noticeable better ride (read somewhere on this forum that 32 psi is ok as long as not going 160 mph). Ride was more like a luxury Jag/smooth. Here comes winter in Canada and I put on some 19 inch winters 255 and 285 Michelins at 33 and 35 psi (as -30 degrees here might reduce the pressure). Ooo La La what a beautiful ride compared to the 20 inch tires, even steering seemed smoother . In fact I seen a full set of 18 inchers and wonder what they would be like. Is the 20 inch scenario just a mental thing. What's your thoughts about a lower tire pressure being ok and the mental thing. EGL

I think it all depends on what your going to be doing with the car and if you track it at all. Click Here to view our selection of Coilovers and suspension components. Feel free to PM with any questions or concerns.

I've had lots of high horsepower performance cars. 20's are the absolute largest I would go and that's mainly due to the disproportionate effect that larger, heavier sets have on handling. Unsprung mass is a thing and changing it will completely change the way the car does just about everything. If you're just going for looks and you don't care about anything else, go with whatever size floats your boat. If you're going for the best compromise between performance and looks, and yes - it's always a compromise - 20's are the upper-end of what should be considered. Going up an inch equates to an (average) 10#-20# increase in rotational mass depending on the wheel and tire, and that is per-corner.

I went with the M030 Factory replacement and now after driving for awhile, I wish I would have went with Coil Overs. Im sure most people will tell you that Bilstein and KW are the best. I would like to upgrade again however I only have 2000-3000 miles on the M030 and cant swap them out yet.

You should also check out H&R Coilovers (Tire Rack has the best price) they are German made and come at a reasonable price $1800 - $1900.

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Quote: I've had both H&R COs and Bilsteins and IMHO, the H&Rs would fit people that prefer more spring than dampening. To me they seemed slightly under damped. If you're planning on staying with stock sways and wanting more spring to control the roll, these might work better in that situation. My $.02