997.2 C4S - Page 2 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

Morning Folks. I've had a manual 997.2 C2S before. Really enjoyed it and can't quite recall why I sold it...though a Ferrari 599 was the end result of whatever musings were going on in my head at the time! Anyway, I'm rather tempted to get another and have decided a manual C4S is the best option. C2S already done. GTS too expensive. Don't want a cab. This is the best one I can see at the moment.... https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por... I'm not totally clued-up on the spec of these, so I just thought some input from those in the know would be great. It does have to be manual. I'm not that bothered about sports exhaust, to be honest. Is there anything we feel is 'missing' from this car. Price seems fair. Thank you all.

I had one too and with hindsight probably the best 997 we have owned. Sport Chrono missing but I don't believe I ever used it over 30,000 miles. Was very very fast a - b and an engaging car.

Can't see PSE on the spec...really needs it IMO. Standard exhaust sound on the Gen II is way too muted... Approx £2k retro fit from Porsche, or your can get a Carnewal system for about £800 ish which transforms the soundtrack. Nice car otherwise.

Not cheap but a low mileage 997.2 won't be. Doesn't have BOSE, to my mind this is an advantage as more space behind the rear seats. Speaking of seats seems like it has the hardback sport ones (as opposed to standard "comfort" ones). In my experience the sports are too tight at the top if broad shouldered - personal choice. Don't see cruise (trivial but great for average speed sections) or rear wipe (love it or loathe it).

looks nice but who in their right mind does first service at 2 years and 17,000 miles!!! and missing PASM?

Jezza1983 said: looks nice but who in their right mind does first service at 2 years and 17,000 miles!!! and missing PASM? These are on 2 Year / 20k Service Intervals, so just someone following the schedule.

3 year service gap between 2013 and 2016 ...

Looks nice. You’ve also got a fair few things you can now point out when negotiating a discount!

Thanks all for your comments. Not sure I'm entirely fussed about sports exhaust. Can't remember if my C2S had it. Guess I'd have to listen to both. PASM, though. What is that exactly? Strictly necessary or just somewhat desirable? Thanks again.

SL550M said: Thanks all for your comments. Not sure I'm entirely fussed about sports exhaust. Can't remember if my C2S had it. Guess I'd have to listen to both. PASM, though. What is that exactly? Strictly necessary or just somewhat desirable? Thanks again. PASM standard on a C4S? Controls electronic dampers sports and normal suspension setting. PSE had it and other than when you start the car it was never as nice as say on the 996 or even a stock 997.1 C4S in terms of engine and exhaust note. Has this car got aftermarket dampers? Sometimes people swap out the PASM dampers.

PSE is the first option I would want on these, along with a centre silencer bypass. It's far too quiet otherwise (IMO). PASM is standard on the S models, you can tell by the damper button on the console. This one has the hardback sports seats which is nice to have, but is missing Bose, parking sensors, cruise so looks a little overpriced.

As an owner of a very low specced 997 (not even GPS !), I can say the only thing I miss and this doesn't have either is the rear parking sensor. Sports Chrono? The dash looks nicer without the clock! And what useful functions does it, especially in a manual. PASM? This car has it. I have the passive sports damper and prefer this. PSE? Drive it as is for the moment being. You can always fir PSE or an other sports exhaust later. Cruise Control? One of the few options my car has. But I almost never use it. Most buyer want this so tough. Full Leather? My car has this, as does the white one. Very important to me and wouldn't want one without! same applies for heated seats. Bose? I don't have it and neither does the white car. I'm no audiophile, so never needed it. The basic speaker are more than good enough, at least for me. The 997 doesn't really need a lot of options. But use it to haggle along with the service history!

Deal breakers for me on a 997. 14 way seats, I need lumber support Heated seats. Full leather Cruise control, because I have become used to it. Nice to have list Bose TP Sensing Sports exhaust Multi function steering wheel

Deal breakers for me on a 997. 14 way seats, I need lumber support Heated seats. Full leather Cruise control, because I have become used to it. Nice to have list Bose TP Sensing Sports exhaust Multi function steering wheel

Billy_Whizzzz said: I have a .2 C4S I bought from them last year. While mike has the PSE, fine without it. No options are ‘essential’ - I have PASM but never use it - but I do like the factory LSD and short shift mine had. And having said that, there is one seeks breaker for me - the sunroof. I’d never have one without, but that’s just preference. I even have non sport seats and they’re fine. Love mine. Price of this one seems fine. Just to say, if you have PASM you use it every time you drive as the dampers are continually adjusting their rate of response depending on acceleration, braking, steering and road surface. Passive dampers don’t do that. You just don’t every trigger the sport mode to stiffen it up. Lovely car BTW and great spec. I am also a crazy crazy sunroof defender and have one on my GTS

Not a bad looking car with decent spec. Shame it doesn't have rear parking sensors as I feel this is quite important if you are using it as a daily. It's useful at night when you can't see much around you. Personally, I would like it to have PSE and cruise. But as mentioned, these can both be retrofitted so not a deal breaker. How many owners has it had?

I have a .2 C4S I bought from them last year. While mine has the PSE, fine without it. No options are ‘essential’ - I have PASM but never use it - but I do like the factory LSD and short shift mine has. And having said that, there is one deal breaker for me - the sunroof. I’d never have one without, but that’s just preference. I even have non sport seats and they’re fine. Love mine. Price of this one seems fine. Edited by Billy_Whizzzz on Thursday 11th June 21:26

c4sman said: Billy_Whizzzz said: I have a .2 C4S I bought from them last year. While mike has the PSE, fine without it. No options are ‘essential’ - I have PASM but never use it - but I do like the factory LSD and short shift mine had. And having said that, there is one seeks breaker for me - the sunroof. I’d never have one without, but that’s just preference. I even have non sport seats and they’re fine. Love mine. Price of this one seems fine. Just to say, if you have PASM you use it every time you drive as the dampers are continually adjusting their rate of response depending on acceleration, braking, steering and road surface. Passive dampers don’t do that. You just don’t every trigger the sport mode to stiffen it up. Lovely car BTW and great spec. I am also a crazy crazy sunroof defender and have one on my GTS Ha yes fair enough re PASM! And yes, sunroofs are essential!

Could be one of the nicest out there. No affiliation, just thought to share as it looks fantastic. 997 Gen 2 6-speed Manual Coupe, RARE Sunroof & PSE Switchable Sports Exhaust

julian987R said: Could be one of the nicest out there. No affiliation, just thought to share as it looks fantastic. 997 Gen 2 6-speed Manual Coupe, RARE Sunroof & PSE Switchable Sports Exhaust Nice but very expensive.

RiccardoG said: Not cheap but a low mileage 997.2 won't be. Doesn't have BOSE, to my mind this is an advantage as more space behind the rear seats. . It is also an advantage because it won't sound crap!

julian987R said: Could be one of the nicest out there. No affiliation, just thought to share as it looks fantastic. 997 Gen 2 6-speed Manual Coupe, RARE Sunroof & PSE Switchable Sports Exhaust Funny how a sunroof becomes a RARE option if it has one and how the absence of a sunroof is preferable due to weight reasons if the original owner didn’t spec one My vanilla 7.1 doesn’t have one and i never missed one. A good friend has a 7.2 4S Targa, which is lovely!! I’m a sucker for a good Targa in comfort spec, but a drivers 911 doesn’t need a sunroof imho.

Filibuster said: julian987R said: Could be one of the nicest out there. No affiliation, just thought to share as it looks fantastic. 997 Gen 2 6-speed Manual Coupe, RARE Sunroof & PSE Switchable Sports Exhaust Funny how a sunroof becomes a RARE option if it has one and how the absence of a sunroof is preferable due to weight reasons if the original owner didn’t spec one My vanilla 7.1 doesn’t have one and i never missed one. A good friend has a 7.2 4S Targa, which is lovely!! I’m a sucker for a good Targa in comfort spec, but a drivers 911 doesn’t need a sunroof imho. [/quote I’ve always thought of myself as a ‘driver’ and I’d never buy one (or any car) without a sunroof.

Filibuster said: Funny how a sunroof becomes a RARE option if it has one and how the absence of a sunroof is preferable due to weight reasons if the original owner didn’t spec one My vanilla 7.1 doesn’t have one and i never missed one. A good friend has a 7.2 4S Targa, which is lovely!! I’m a sucker for a good Targa in comfort spec, but a drivers 911 doesn’t need a sunroof imho . You'd hope all 911's are drivers. A track car may not need a sunroof, but it makes no difference on the road. A sunroof is purely a preference and IMO nice to have on the right day on the road. A cab v coupe is far more of a difference when picking a 'drivers' car due to rigidity.

g7jhp said: You'd hope all 911's are drivers. A track car may not need a sunroof, but it makes no difference on the road. A sunroof is purely a preference and IMO nice to have on the right day on the road. A cab v coupe is far more of a difference when picking a 'drivers' car due to rigidity. If you want a proper coupe, buy one without a sunroof. If you want to mince about with your St Tropez tan and flowing locks blowing about in the breeze, buy a convertible. Buying a sports car with a sunroof just makes you look confused .

Louis Balfour said: If you want a proper coupe, buy one without a sunroof. If you want to mince about with your St Tropez tan and flowing locks blowing about in the breeze, buy a convertible. Buying a sports car with a sunroof just makes you look confused . To be fair I haven't really missed the absence of a sunroof on my GT3...and I sleep easier knowing the roof weighs less....

Louis Balfour said: If you want a proper coupe, buy one without a sunroof. If you want to mince about with your St Tropez tan and flowing locks blowing about in the breeze, buy a convertible. Buying a sports car with a sunroof just makes you look confused . Funny nobody has even asked if I was confused having a sunroof on a 911 coupe. New you have a choice. Used it's hard enough finding he right model and spec, a sunroof comes way down the list after model, manual, coupe, colour, seats, exhaust etc. But we're all different.