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YOUR RESEARCH928 one step forward two back.
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Clean some earths and found a wire off terminal 50
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
Tidied up some wires under the motor and cleaned some earths and found a wire off terminal 50 on the starter motor alas no fix.
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Suggestion · Original poster
I'm getting voltage on both terminals when key turned to start( not sure what voltage exactly) am going to clean 14 point plug next any advice welcome.
Leading evidence: 'Clean some earths and found a wire off terminal 50' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'long type) and set up' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Clean 14 point plug next any advice welcome' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
I rerouted strap over the heat shield and under steering rack ordered and changed heater tap, refilled tested drove car for three days(cold start problem still there) no leaks.
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
The radiator drain plug fouled a metal tab so I flexed the rad over 5mm to clear removed engine plugs changed TTS refilled and tested.
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
I rerouted strap over the heat shield and under steering rack ordered and changed heater tap, refilled tested drove car for three days(cold start problem still there) no leaks.
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Suspected cause · Original poster
I've had a cold start problem for a while and determined the thermo time switch was faulty.(was the short type) So I decided to change coolant at same time(a bit over 2 years old) obtained a TTS(it was the long type) and set up to drain coolant out of rad and engine block.
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Clean 14 point plug next any advice welcome
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Suggestion · Original poster
I'm getting voltage on both terminals when key turned to start( not sure what voltage exactly) am going to clean 14 point plug next any advice welcome.
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
I rerouted strap over the heat shield and under steering rack ordered and changed heater tap, refilled tested drove car for three days(cold start problem still there) no leaks.
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0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
Coolant leak under bellhousing investigated and found a cracked plastic heater tap and while under car noticed the engine earth strap running over exhaust and under heat shield was getting worn through.
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
I rerouted strap over the heat shield and under steering rack ordered and changed heater tap, refilled tested drove car for three days(cold start problem still there) no leaks.
These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.
long type) and set up
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Suspected cause · Original poster
I've had a cold start problem for a while and determined the thermo time switch was faulty.(was the short type) So I decided to change coolant at same time(a bit over 2 years old) obtained a TTS(it was the long type) and set up to drain coolant out of rad and engine block.
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8 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.
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Outcome without a verified action link
Removed relay and rejoined wire( I wonder what po used it for) but made no difference.
I've had a cold start problem for a while and determined the thermo time switch was faulty.(was the short type) So I decided to change coolant at same time(a bit over 2 years old) obtained a TTS(it was the long type) and set up to drain coolant out of rad and engine block. The radiator drain plug fouled a metal tab so I flexed the rad over 5mm to clear removed engine plugs changed TTS refilled and tested. Coolant leak under bellhousing investigated and found a cracked plastic heater tap and while under car noticed the engine earth strap running over exhaust and under heat shield was getting worn through. I rerouted strap over the heat shield and under steering rack ordered and changed heater tap, refilled tested drove car for three days(cold start problem still there) no leaks.
Day four coolant leak at RH plastic tank and rad core when I flexed the rad(rubber mounted) I pushed on the RH tank disturbing this 40 year old seal. Radiator repairer would not guarantee repairs new rad over $1000 had to use Nulon stop leak which has worked well.
Back to original problem if I ground the W terminal going to TTS motor fires straight away(the best its ever started) ground the G terminal starter motor will not operate however dash lights on. I'm getting voltage on both terminals when key turned to start( not sure what voltage exactly) am going to clean 14 point plug next any advice welcome.
Cleaned 14 pin connecter(was nothing wrong) and found a redundant relay had been fitted to the wire coming from pin 14 and going to the starter motor solenoid aha smoking gun, alas no. Removed relay and rejoined wire( I wonder what po used it for) but made no difference. Will continue with trouble shooting when time permits.
Tidied up some wires under the motor and cleaned some earths and found a wire off terminal 50 on the starter motor alas no fix.
Turned out I applied sealant on the TTS when I replaced it which gave a too high resistance that was the problem now fixed.
Good to hear you got there in the end. My 924 renovation has been 3 times the learning experience I had anticipated!
I know I am not alone (924s are very simple compared to 928s).
Trouble again I've been doing a few little jobs during lockdown. My horn wasn't working(after market wheel) so I resoldered a broken wire back on the steering wheel hub.
While I had the iron out I thought I would tidy up the wire coming from the 14pin plug where PO fitted the relay(see above) unfortunately when I refitted the plugs back together it broke in my hand and wires 1and 2 fell off due to corrosion.
Wire 1 went to voltmeter which I bypassed wire 2 was for oil pressure but still worked(PO must have bypassed it) and the plug is now held together with zip tie.
Is there a better solution to the 14pin plug or should I purchase new plug and pins from the States?
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