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YOUR RESEARCHI am rethinking my "Master Plan"
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Hey Krazy, instead of replacing every part on your car maybe you should just buy every single piece of the car one item at a time and build up a new one from the catalog!
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The interior is flawless, except I need to replace the headliner on the cab top.
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I hear he is going to attempt replacing his latest IMSB using only an allen wrench and a Q-tip!
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Otherwise you are just replacing perfectly functional parts...
Hey Krazy, instead of replacing every part on your car maybe you should just buy every single piece of the car one item at a time and build up a new one from the catalog!
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When I boughty my 03 C2 Cab in Sept 2011, I also purchased an aftermarket warranty for $3k (3 year/36K Miles). I have approx 15 months and/or 20k miles to go.
This was my first Porsche and my original plan was to use the car as my DD and if I liked it, keep it until the warranty was up, then sell and move up to a 997 TT.
Since I have owned the car, I have:
Replaced both window regulators, ignition switch, AOS, Water Pump, RMS, new Clutch and have done the LNE IMS Retrofit.
Added Fister D exhaust.
Added a Pioneer Double Din head unit, new amp and all new speakers.
Replaced all four tires.
Several cosmetic mods, clear side markers, ashtray delete, Porsche bezel surrounding head unit and aluminum gauge rings.
The interior is flawless, except I need to replace the headliner on the cab top.
The exterior is almost perfect except for the rock chips on bumper and a new scratch on the drivers side door (it just doesn't matter how careful I am!). Both bumpers could use a respray.
The car runs perfectly. No leaks of any kind.
I still have at least a year to decide, but I am now thinking I am crazy to let this car go since I pretty much have everything I want. Maybe I should just purchase another warranty (this one has already paid for itself).
I don't track the car and I would probably not get any benefit from owning a turbo other than being able to own a turbo, if you know what I mean.
It really is not about the money, but the car will soon be 11 years old. Still lots to go wrong.
Thoughts?
Hey Krazy, instead of replacing every part on your car maybe you should just buy every single piece of the car one item at a time and build up a new one from the catalog! Then you have one for display with 0 miles and one to drive! They'll sell you a body in white and then you go from there!
Otherwise you are just replacing perfectly functional parts...
I have the monetary means to move up now but WHY? Why get rid or a perfect car. More perfect now than when I bought it 2 years ago and still 12 months of extended warranty on it. The warranty paid for itself within the first 6 months. If I did move up I would like to buy in the high price bracket range of about 60 grand onwards. That way I know that the person who owned the car before me didn't mod it or work on it himself. All work that he had done, he was able to pay for it at the Porsche Dealers. Not so within the 20/40$ range owners. In other words, less chance of me buying a tampered with car. I would prefer to buy a car the same as it was when it left the Porsche Factory in Stuttgart.
I'd be remiss not to quote Johnny Cash since he is America's greatest Singer/Songwriter and my avatar. This reminds me of his song "One Piece at a Time"
For everyone's listening pleasure --
Johnny Cash One Piece At A Time - YouTube
Gonzo I hear ya. I also had a master plan about the same as yours other than moving up to a 997.2 rather than a turbo. I also had my car totally sorted out and struggled to pull the trigger and move to phase 2 of the plan. However I eventually did and sold my car about a month ago. Its a tough call and boils down to how you personally feel in your gut. Buying another warranty and keeping the car for 3 more years is certainly a good option. I enjoy the search as well as the rush of the new car so for me I have 2 things to look forward to. I do admit that I miss my 996. This is not a bad problem to have.
I had a neighbor who built a 2001 bmw 740i piece by piece. He purchased everything from the frame all the way to the last bolt and put together. It took him a few years and cost him nearly 3 times more than what the car was worth at the time. The only thing he gained was bragging rights and a car that he can pass down to his grandkids if nobody crashes into it while its parked and totals it.
It's always a tough decision. I was actually discussing this with my wife tonight. My C4S has almost 124K miles on the odometer. Even though I love it and the way it is equipped, I'm beginning to think it will soon cost more to keep it than to sell it and replace it with a newer one. I've been shopping for 997.2 cars online all evening. I'd love a turbo, but I'm leaning towards another C4S. I may even price a lightly equipped 991. Decisions, decisions...
Your current car looks great. No question the 997 is a fine machine. Agree with others that this is about personal preference. As far as the turbo goes, these cars have so much pickup naturally why pay for something that will just tempt you to get more tickets in order to use it?
I think you would get a lot more enjoyment out of learning to drive your current car
start going to the track
2-3 years down the road your whole perspective will change
If you so prefer cars the way they left the factory, why did you put a bunch of crap on your rear decklid? Even porsche knew that would look like total crap.
As for the owner working on it himself, I've never seen a shop take as much care in working on a vehicle as the owner, especially with the **** porsche owners.
in other words, I completely disagree with your post, just like I do with all your posts.
I don't send my car to the dealers NOT because I cannot afford their rates. I simply lost faith after having them mis-diagnose a couple of problems I had. I feel they are only able to fix issues that their fancy PIWIS is able to tell them. Even then, they can come up with some ridiculous recommendations. I am fortunate enough to be a competent mechanic although it isn't my livelihood. I trust my own work more than any mechanic that I do not get to keep an eye on.
Back to the OP, I bought my 06 C2S about 3 months before you got yours and I am currently looking at a beautiful 996TT. However, I'm still liking my car so much that its hard to make that change. I am contemplating 2 x 911 ownership like many of you.
Some of the factors to consider include:
- is your car genuinely becoming unreliable, or is this something you're imagining or fearing that might happen?
- when you consider the real costs of fixing/maintaining your car, how would they compare with the costs of a new car? (Loss of value in selling this one, higher insurance, depreciation which is often about $10k per year.....are you really spending $8-$10k per year in maintenance?)
- in getting another car, are you paying money to get something that does the same as what you have now?.....or are you making a change that achieves some genuine additional capability? (seats more, gets you through worse weather that you've been experiencing -- not just gets to 60 in .2 seconds faster).
Could be that you're just bored and want a newer car. That's ok....just be realistic about why. Will help you make a better decision and time it better.
All good points. Well, almost all
I am very happy with my current car, and pretty much have it exactly the way I want it. It's like buying a house. You move in, fix it up, spend weekends getting the yard just right, then Bam, the wife wants to move again. Back to Step 1.
Although a 997 TT shouldn't need much I suspect.
My plan is to actively look for my next car now and just like with my current car, I will know when I have found it. It took over 6 months and dozens of test drives.
Kinda sounds like fun!
Thats true, but honestly as a buyer how are you supposed to know that? I know it is popular on the older Porsche forums to bash dealers (and even Independents) and promote the idea of DIY, but I can see how buyers might reasonably be scared off.
YOU know that you are a master mechanic more capable than even the highest end dealership, but thats a big leap of faith for the average buyer when compared against a stack of dealership receipts.
Its a strange conflict IMO. When people ask for buying advice almost everyone says "make sure there are >thousands< of receipts for every last thing done to the car since original purchase"
But then to owners the advice is that everyone should become a master mechanic and do major engine service in their garage.
When a buyer comes around, there will be parts receipts, but it's a fairly large leap of faith to accept that this unknown private individual did everything thoroughly and correctly.
Im absolutely in awe of folks who can do serious work DIY, and would myself if I could for certain things, but at the very least I'd hope that anyone reasonable could see that it is not a cut and dry situation when it comes to eventually reselling the car and representing it to a potential buyer.
Well, its all a matter of trust. Can you ensure that a DIY'er didn't screw stuff up? Not 100%, no. But, with a decent PPI, you should be able to find any hack work.
Older 911s are tricky. Dealer mechanics are trained on new stuff. Not to say a guy whose been working on cayennes for the last decade can't do something on an aircooled car, but it will likely just be parts changing.
996s have a lot of similar systems to the new stuff, so its less of a worry there.
In my opinion, if after talking to a diy seller, who has parts receipts, and I get the sense that he knows what he's talking about, and the PPI comes out decent, I'm fairly comfortable buying the car.
