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Excellent, keeps all the women and hairdressers in one place

Porsche Boxster S in White Black leather interior Roll over bar in exterior colour Mesh wind deflector Bi-xenon lights Park assist front and rear Electric mirrors Dimming mirror with rain sensor Porsche torque vectoring with locking rear diff. PASM Sport chrono pack Power steering plus Sports tail pipe 20" carrera s alloys Tyre pressure monitoring system Black wheels Heated seats Heated steering wheel Cruise control Light design package Adaptive sports seats plus Multi function steering wheel Bose sound system PCM Porsche crest embossed head restraints PSE July build now we have added the PSE

DMC2 said: Excellent, keeps all the women and hairdressers in one place Only the good looking can drive a Porsche with the roof down...lol

Sticking with the manual aircon ?

Planning on putting firm order in tomorrow - already have £2k holding deposit on. current thought process is Boxster S Agate exterior Black partial + leather pack (or maybe Agate/Pebble - any thoughts on this) Roll over bar - Ali Xenon Plus F&R Parking Folding/dimming mirrors PDK 20" Carrera Classic incl Crest TPM Seat heating Cruise Light design pack Electic memory seats - anybody know if this incl auto dipping mirror when in reverse? Sport Design Wheel PCM + Phone BOSE Ali Pedals Ali centre consol Unsure options (advice happily accepted) PASM Sport Chrono PSE

535dBoy said: Unsure options (advice happily accepted) PASM Sport Chrono PSE Yes you need those. And I am not just saying it because they'll be worth very little in 3/4 years time when I buy a second hand 981 !

Unsure options (advice happily accepted) PASM Sport Chrono PSE [/quote] My 987.2 has all 3 of these (was an ex-demonstrator). Thoughts PASM - Really grew on me as have started to appreciate just how well it damps the road although I never use the hard setting. That said I think non-PASM rides fine too but PASM does add an extra 10%. SportsChrono - I use this the least by far. You get the Sport button as standard with the 981. If I was buying I would spec only if I was going with PDK too (which I personally wouldn't but I know many people see PDK as essential) PSE - Potentially the most gimmicky but I leave it on all the time. Does sound great. I don't think any are essential (other than SC with PDK) but all are good. If PDK then I would put SC first, otherwise last. If you asked me on day 1 of ownership I would have put PSE ahead of PASM but nowadays I think I would reverse those two in order of preference.

CLIMATE Another one without climate. Still struggling to get my head around a £50k car where you have to keep adjusting the fan speed and temp. Guess if the car always has the roof down then its not too much of an issue. Mine will be a daily driver and during the winter the roof will be up. In the cayman where I had the std manual air con it was a PITA. Most cars for sale at OPC's have climate. PASM Who knows how well the 20" wheels will ride on UK roads without PASM. Bit of a risk not to spec, but I'm not at the moment. SC If the car was a manual I wouldnt bother. Had it on my Spyder and didnt really use it. On my PDK Cayman without SC I wish I had it. AGATE GREY Couple of people have said it looks a little brown in certain light. Putting me off a little, but hope to see a 911 in that colour soon.

Hadnt realised climate wasn't std!!!! Thanks for the heads up. I assumed option was just for dual not dual/climate. Will spec Why is SC so important with PDK? Saw 991 at dealer in agates he grey and like it Was going to go gt silver but saw RS60 at dealer and it didn't look much different to normal silver

I think the fact that it says dual had confused others, you're not alone. You can see in the photo below that the std aircon has no temp display and no auto button. Not a cheap option though

Chins said: I think the fact that it says dual had confused others, you're not alone. You can see in the photo below that the std aircon has no temp display and no auto button. Not a cheap option though It is the photos that I studied to see what you were saying then read the text! Can't believe not std Dangerous not to spec I think I did ask dealer if I was missin anything else-he didn't mention this!!!

AGATE GREY - I WAS HUMMING AND ARRING on this colour as my choice but just been down to Sign off my spec and saw the colour against GT Silver and Standard Siver etc - It will look awesome - with Silver and black you tend to lose the line details - I was tending to lean towards the silver as it is shown a lot in literature videos etc but definitely opted now for Agate grey. It is a warm looking Grey but definetely does not look brown in natural light as the cars were all outside ready to go to customers.

535dBoy said: Why is SC so important with PDK? Based on 987 experience PDK gearchange can feel quite sluggish without sports of sports+ button pressed. To be clear on the 987 neither button came as standard, you got both by speccing SC and each one added an incremenral level of speed to the change. With the 981 you get the sport button anyway so PERHAPS less critical to spec the SC just so you get the Sports+ button. Hard one to call that. With PDK I would also strongly consider the Sport wheel that comes with the paddles as changing gears with the rocker switches isn't so great (try this for yourself on existing models at your OPC). Decisions, decisions!

gl20 said: Based on 987 experience PDK gearchange can feel quite sluggish without sports of sports+ button pressed. To be clear on the 987 neither button came as standard, you got both by speccing SC and each one added an incremenral level of speed to the change. With the 981 you get the sport button anyway so PERHAPS less critical to spec the SC just so you get the Sports+ button. Hard one to call that. With PDK I would also strongly consider the Sport wheel that comes with the paddles as changing gears with the rocker switches isn't so great (try this for yourself on existing models at your OPC). Decisions, decisions! Ok thanks. Really struggling to see the point in SC at minute (£1300!) Will have sports wheel with paddles as that is what I am used to

Gran Canaria Porsche Boxster 981 Launch video - Lots of colours and specs to see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQA1W-ojMJc

535dBoy said: It is the photos that I studied to see what you were saying then read the text! Can't believe not std Dangerous not to spec I think I did ask dealer if I was missin anything else-he didn't mention this!!! Oh for crying out loud, me to!!

535dBoy said: Ok thanks. Really struggling to see the point in SC at minute (£1300!) Will have sports wheel with paddles as that is what I am used to From a resale point of view people will always look for SC with the PDK box. You will get even faster shifts, launch control, throttle blips, dynamic engine mounts and a G-Force meter on PCM Keen drivers after a PDK Boxster S will want SC. I think if the car was a 2.7 you could live without it. I have it in my spec - finalising tomorrow.

Chins said: Keen drivers after a PDK Eh ?

When speccing your pride and joy, consider opting for the smoking package, as I believe it will give you an extra 12v outlet, if that's important to you.

Oi U said: When speccing your pride and joy, consider opting for the smoking package, as I believe it will give you an extra 12v outlet, if that's important to you. What a disappointment! I was expecting you to say smoking jacket and slippers! MTR

nickfrog said: Eh ? I'm not saying keen drivers should go for PDK, only that there will be some people that love driving (we know a number of people buy porsche's for the status and a cruise down the high street) and want PDK will also want SC. If I bought the Boxster for my wife she would want PDK, but SC would be wasted on her

535dBoy said: (or maybe Agate/Pebble - any thoughts on this) See my comments to another thread, Agate interior is more brown than grey. Not a problem, if you like it. 535dBoy said: Electic memory seats - anybody know if this incl auto dipping mirror when in reverse? Yes, I understand that the memory seats do give the swivel down passenger door mirror when selecting reverse. I showed this to a friend with a 997 who had owned the car for 3 years and didn't know it did that, as you have to select the passenger mirror on the electric mirror control before it functions. This allows you to disable it by just not leaving the mirror control with the passenger mirror selected. The electric memory seats is one of the options I'm most keen on and I'm surprised so few people seem to select them. The four way electric lumbar support is the main reason, but the reversing mirror swivel and the fact that the steering wheel and chair move out of your way to allow you to get in and out is cool. And of course, the fact that the chair, steering wheel and mirrors are always where you left them, even if someone else has been driving the car. 535dBoy said: Unsure options (advice happily accepted) PASM Sport Chrono PSE As said elsewhere, I would have PASM before Sport Chrono and several other options. Good luck speccing your car. I worked on the principle that I intended to keep the car for many years and might miss some options much longer than I would miss the money they cost. I guess we all have to draw the line somewhere, but I would err on the safe side and order anything I really felt I might miss. Most options are very hard to retro fit and it's very expensive to swap your car if you really miss something. I find it helps to remind myself how much a decently specced 991 Cab costs! Also, paying such a lot of money for what is basically a toy is not really a logical thing, it is more emotional so you should get what feels right. This is why I have the paddle shifts and the sport chrono, even though the SC is far too much money for what it gives. Cheers, Geoff

A few more thoughts ... PASM also lowers the car by 10mm. Some people think a lower look, with the wheels 10mm nearer the arches gives a sportier look? I didn't bother with the climate control as it is over priced (and probaly should be standard). I always have the roof open and the first thing I have to do is turn the blasted fan down to stop the auto mode trying to cool the whole atmosphere. This has driven me mad in both my previous boxster and even my wife's Audi estate and both live permanently set to low fan speed so I can't hear the fans. I have never had a problem with the temperature and it is easy enough to nudge it up or down if I need to. It does look a bit cheap without the temperature control, though. In the end I had much better things to spend £530 on, especially in a soft top. Tried to live without BOSE but the Porsche Sound System I tried in a couple of 991's was really disappointing so after back to back testing I decided BOSE was required to get decent speakers. I found the colour the hardest thing to choose, especially as you can't yet see the cars in the flesh. Looking at a 991 helps a bit, but they are different cars and what looks good on one may not suit the other. I would have liked a gun-metal grey like many Aston Martin's and Audi's. In reality, almost all the colours look nice when clean and polished, especially in the showroom, and you spend most of your time looking at the interior. Cheers, Geoff

Tried to live without BOSE but the Porsche Sound System I tried in a couple of 991's was really disappointing so after back to back testing I decided BOSE was required to get decent speakers. I found the colour the hardest thing to choose, especially as you can't yet see the cars in the flesh. Looking at a 991 helps a bit, but they are different cars and what looks good on one may not suit the other. I would have liked a gun-metal grey like many Aston Martin's and Audi's. In reality, almost all the colours look nice when clean and polished, especially in the showroom, and you spend most of your time looking at the interior. Cheers, Geoff [/quote] I have to agree with Geoff as he commented on another post. Tried the sound systems out today and the Bose sounds much crisper in all different wind environments from low speed to full on throttle - Thats why I just added it to my spec today. Please see below comments from another post which I put on earlier regarding colour and PSE I went and drove the 911S with sports exhaust today and you can definitely say it sounds like a real race car with it - That doesnt mean to say it is does not sound good without cos it does but if you want the boxster to sound like a race car it is definetely for you. I would not get this just so other people will know your in the vicinity however once I wound down the windows and heard all the revs being dumped through the exhaust on the down shift it is like listening to an orchestra. This is simply a big part of the pleasure driving the boxster for me anyway (And you can turn it off on your late night returns home so not to wake the kids when you pull up on the drive) As for the brown hues in the Agate grey paint work - I have a grey Audi Q7 of which i love the colour however parked at the side of the Agate grey it kind of pails into insignificance as the Porsche colour is just a much livelier shade of grey - It really brings the car to life even as it was hissing it down today all the reflections and colours shine off the paintwork. I was of the same opinion as Geoff and was going to play safe with the silver as it was illustrated in all of the literature however once I seen the Agate grey colour again and imagined it on the 981 boxster I can certainly say it will pick up all of the beautiful lines of the car magnificently possibly better than the silver as we parked it next to the other 2 silver coloured cars on the lot. (Photos seem to pick the brown hues up of the Agate grey much more than in real life) My opinion anyway - thats why I have certainly put my reservations straight to one side and finally specced up the Agate grey..........

Geoff [/quote] Geoff you have enlightened me on a number of issues - Thank you for your comments as the people who read them will get a complete unbiased opinion on choices for their spec. PS Silver does still look awesome http://photos.stuttcars.info/upload/2012/01/12/981...

Thanks Geoff for your replies here and in the other threads Much appreciated

gbrownzen said: Also, paying such a lot of money for what is basically a toy is not really a logical thing, it is more emotional so you should get what feels right. This is why I have the paddle shifts and the sport chrono, even though the SC is far too much money for what it gives. Exactly how I feel, I can't understand not having something because you fear losing money?

PSE is an essential option, Sports Chrono you can live without especially, as the Sport button is standard. I have em all on my car, PASM is great to. I would only need Sport Plus on the 2.7 when burning off AUDI 3 Litre cars and S3's from the lights :> Launch control on the car is all well and good but where could you use it? Nowhere. And if you did manage to use it you would look like a tit. Edited by Carl_Docklands on Tuesday 10th April 21:59

OK order for Mrs' car went in as follows Boxster 981 S Agate Grey Agate/Pebble grey leather pack PDK PCM + Phone Porsche Crest on headrest Sport Design steering wheel Seat heating Light design pack 2-zone climate (thanks for the heads up on this one!) Cruise control PASM Folding mirrors Dimming mirrors F&R park assist Adaptive Xenons 14 way electric & memory sports seats TPM 20" Carrera Classic Wheel with colour Porsche crest Aluminium look roll over bar with wind deflector BOSE Sport Chrono So I guess pretty much the only thing it is missing is the PSE but I should get it in May as opposed to July and I have the new V8 RS4 coming in September which will have/get a sports exhaust for maximum effect and I also have a quite highly modified s/charged Exige with a 2bular exhaust (Lotus people will understand) which gives some great sounds. I am sure the standard non PSE equipped car will not be that bad on the sound front - I guess I may just miss out on some of the over-run cackles. Looking forward to getting it - I imagine the Mrs may get lumbered with my X5 until the RS4 turns up so I can have some fun in my 'first' Porker!

535dBoy said: Looking forward to getting it - I imagine the Mrs may get lumbered with my X5 until the RS4 turns up so I can have some fun in my 'first' Porker! You don't need to lie to us mate, we know the car is yours really We get alot of people on here asking about "Boxsters for their wife"....

Nice spec Keep £2k back to add the PSE. Is your dealer saying May delivery to you as it seems a little optimistic if you have only just given him your spec and the spec isn't locked down. As I understand it at 4 weeks prior to build your spec gets locked down. Car might then turn up 3 weeks later. So this seems to take your earliest delivery into June. Hope I'm wrong for your sake.

Carl_Docklands said: You don't need to lie to us mate, we know the car is yours really We get alot of people on here asking about "Boxsters for their wife".... Ha ha very good No it replaces her TT

Chins said: Nice spec Keep £2k back to add the PSE. Is your dealer saying May delivery to you as it seems a little optimistic if you have only just given him your spec and the spec isn't locked down. As I understand it at 4 weeks prior to build your spec gets locked down. Car might then turn up 3 weeks later. So this seems to take your earliest delivery into June. Hope I'm wrong for your sake. I had a build slot secured so just final spec put through as I understand it. Will confirm later

Hi all, first time poster. I ordered a Red S at the end of February with a May build. The wait is painful! It will be a daily drive and replaces my 4 year old S2000. Spec: Boxster S 6-speed manual transmission Guards Red Black leather Sports seats Plus (2-way) Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) incl. mechanically locking rear differential Black Cabriolet Roof BOSE® Surround Sound System Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interface Sport Chrono Package SportDesign steering wheel Preparation for mobile phone Seat ventilation Light design package Seat heating Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) Mesh wind deflector Bi-Xenon lighting system with Dynamic Light System (PDLS) Sports seats Plus (2-way, electric) Tyre pressure monitoring system (TPM) 20-inch Carrera Classic wheel Floor mats Left a few things off that would be nice but I don't really need. Such as full leather and 2 zone air con (not missed it on the current motor). Booked in at Silverstone for the driver training on June 18th. Note: they told me they only have PDK transmissions during May.

Chins said: Nice spec Keep £2k back to add the PSE. Is your dealer saying May delivery to you as it seems a little optimistic if you have only just given him your spec and the spec isn't locked down. As I understand it at 4 weeks prior to build your spec gets locked down. Car might then turn up 3 weeks later. So this seems to take your earliest delivery into June. Hope I'm wrong for your sake. EMail from Dealer "I have received your order form signed so thank you and the good news is that we have managed to secure one of the very first builds as we amended one of our own cars to your specification, so hopefully an early May build. I will of course keep you updated as I look daily and will forward you my findings."

Lucky bar steward - you'll practically be driving away from the launch event in your own car... ETA: Wivelrod, good spec - possibly lacking PSE from my perspective, but I haven't heard the standard car so perhaps being a bit hasty. Edited by Actus Reus on Thursday 12th April 11:34

Actus Reus said: Lucky bar steward - you'll practically be driving away from the launch event in your own car... ETA: Wivelrod, good spec - possibly lacking PSE from my perspective, but I haven't heard the standard car so perhaps being a bit hasty. Edited by Actus Reus on Thursday 12th April 11:34 The standard car sounds very refined and certainly top down there was very little exhaust note. I have added PSE to my car after hearing the standard car.

Wivelrod said: Hi all, first time poster. I ordered a Red S at the end of February with a May build. The wait is painful! It will be a daily drive and replaces my 4 year old S2000. Spec: Boxster S 6-speed manual transmission Guards Red Black leather Sports seats Plus (2-way) Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) incl. mechanically locking rear differential Black Cabriolet Roof BOSE® Surround Sound System Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interface Sport Chrono Package SportDesign steering wheel Preparation for mobile phone Seat ventilation Light design package Seat heating Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) Mesh wind deflector Bi-Xenon lighting system with Dynamic Light System (PDLS) Sports seats Plus (2-way, electric) Tyre pressure monitoring system (TPM) 20-inch Carrera Classic wheel Floor mats Left a few things off that would be nice but I don't really need. Such as full leather and 2 zone air con (not missed it on the current motor). Booked in at Silverstone for the driver training on June 18th. Note: they told me they only have PDK transmissions during May. Nice spec. You have PCM, so why not the telephone module for PCM. Sure your prep for mobile phone is not a mistake. You MIGHt lose some integration.

535dBoy said: EMail from Dealer "I have received your order form signed so thank you and the good news is that we have managed to secure one of the very first builds as we amended one of our own cars to your specification, so hopefully an early May build. I will of course keep you updated as I look daily and will forward you my findings." Sounds good I would keep checking with them for a build date though as I still think the car is at least 4 weeks away from being built. Earlier in the week I only met one owner with a completion date - towards the end of May, but this was a 2.7.

Chins said: Nice spec. You have PCM, so why not the telephone module for PCM. Sure your prep for mobile phone is not a mistake. You MIGHt lose some integration. Such as? I was told I only need mobile phone prep too, ie Bluetooth.

Chins said: Sounds good I would keep checking with them for a build date though as I still think the car is at least 4 weeks away from being built. Earlier in the week I only met one owner with a completion date - towards the end of May, but this was a 2.7. I will I think he already has me down as a customer from hell anyway!!!

PSE wasn't an option available when I ordered. I use an iPhone which I understand doesn't support SIM Access Profile, a requirement for the Telephone PCM Module. Hands free Prep gives you blutooth (using the phones own antenna). Besides, I don't like using the phone whilst driving even when hands free .

535dBoy said: Chins said: Nice spec. You have PCM, so why not the telephone module for PCM. Sure your prep for mobile phone is not a mistake. You MIGHt lose some integration. Such as? I was told I only need mobile phone prep too, ie Bluetooth. It's a bit of a grey area, but. The basic prep in the old Boxster does not transfer address books to the car if your using an iPhone. All you see is the phone number not contact details. In the new 981 it has CDR31 not 30. It might be better. The main point is that there is a specific Telephone Module for PCM. Why is this if the basic phone prep does exactly the same? The PCM one costs another £80. You have PCM, so why not get the option designed to work with it? Personally I would not risk it. Get them to change it now especially if you have an IPhone. Hope that helps !!

Wivelrod said: PSE wasn't an option available when I ordered. I use an iPhone which I understand doesn't support SIM Access Profile, a requirement for the Telephone PCM Module. Hands free Prep gives you blutooth (using the phones own antenna). Besides, I don't like using the phone whilst driving even when hands free . Please read my post above. I have had the basic phone Previn my old Cayman. I had PCM with the telephone module in my Spyder. Perfect integration with IPhone on the later and crap with the former.

Chins said: Please read my post above. I have had the basic phone Previn my old Cayman. I had PCM with the telephone module in my Spyder. Perfect integration with IPhone on the later and crap with the former. So long as I can receive a call I'm happy with basic integration. I tend not to make many calls when on the move, and generally look to pull over to make a call (personal preference, and absolutely nothing to do about safety). So I'm happy to take the risk for now If I the integration was far more important to me though, the advice you gave would have been extremely helpful. So thanks for that

From experience Porsche salesman don't fully understand the phone options and as mentioned I have the product manager getting in touch with Germany to clarify matter re the iPhone and Basic Phone Prep -I am thinking of dropping PCM hence my interest.

Wivelrod said: Chins said: Please read my post above. I have had the basic phone Previn my old Cayman. I had PCM with the telephone module in my Spyder. Perfect integration with IPhone on the later and crap with the former. So long as I can receive a call I'm happy with basic integration. I tend not to make many calls when on the move, and generally look to pull over to make a call (personal preference, and absolutely nothing to do about safety). So I'm happy to take the risk for now If I the integration was far more important to me though, the advice you gave would have been extremely helpful. So thanks for that It's an extra £80 to have full integration. Without it you risk someone calling you and not knowing who it is unless you know their number of by heart.

DMC2 said: Excellent, keeps all the women and hairdressers in one place excellent

Chins said: It's an extra £80 to have full integration. Without it you risk someone calling you and not knowing who it is unless you know their number of by heart. Dealer just phoned I've managed to change mine Thanks for the heads up.......again!!!!

There's an owners manual for the previous model Boxster here: http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/Owners_Manual... Anyone know if the owners manual for the new model is available anywhere yet, please?

what sort of residuals are Porsche offering on these?

For those going with the dual zone auto aircon, who like me were wondering if you would be able to lock the two temps together for adjusting, I understand that if you hold the auto button down it will switch in and out of "mono" mode. Useful when driving alone? Cheers, Geoff

gbrownzen said: For those going with the dual zone auto aircon, who like me were wondering if you would be able to lock the two temps together for adjusting, I understand that if you hold the auto button down it will switch in and out of "mono" mode. Useful when driving alone? Cheers, Geoff I'll just get used to permanent 'mono' mode with my standard a/c

Nano2nd said: what sort of residuals are Porsche offering on these? no one car to share? or are you all cash buyers;)

Nano2nd said: no one car to share? or are you all cash buyers;) Sorry, not using finance

Nano2nd said: Nano2nd said: what sort of residuals are Porsche offering on these? no one car to share? or are you all cash buyers;) They will depreciate just like the previous model eg. 40-55% over 3 years depending on toys - maybe more.

Carl_Docklands said: They will depreciate just like the previous model eg. 40-55% over 3 years depending on toys - maybe more. I don't doubt it, hence I'm more interested in the monthly figure... The spec I want is £56k that's without sat nav can't bring myself to pay over £2k for sat nav that gets used once in a blue moon

Nano2nd said: I don't doubt it, hence I'm more interested in the monthly figure... The spec I want is £56k that's without sat nav can't bring myself to pay over £2k for sat nav that gets used once in a blue moon my spec froze today .. £51,946

SFO said: my spec froze today .. £51,946 Short of going through all the threads again, when is yours due?

Prospective said: Hi slightly concerned!! Given that the new Boxster and Cayman share the same running gear etc. anyone experiencing this? below I have just taken delivery of a new cayman 2.7 PDK. I had a boxster 981 manual previous to this. I have noticed when engaging Drive there is an audible clunk and slight judder as the gearbox engages 1st gear? I have also noticed that when slowing down quickly coming down the gears I have the same noise but more noticeable? When using the paddles it does not do this? Anyone having similar issue? do I have a problem with the PDK box (my dealer says it normal and will bed in? just done 200 miles. Any advice would be appreciated. BoxS PDK.. heard a couple of clunks as you describe early on but not heard anything for a while, now on 2600m. Enjoy the car, rag it after 2000m, if you have a problem with the box (I dont think you have) it will appear within the next 2 years and under warranty.

Prospective said: Hi slightly concerned!! Given that the new Boxster and Cayman share the same running gear etc. anyone experiencing this? below I have just taken delivery of a new cayman 2.7 PDK. I had a boxster 981 manual previous to this. I have noticed when engaging Drive there is an audible clunk and slight judder as the gearbox engages 1st gear? I have also noticed that when slowing down quickly coming down the gears I have the same noise but more noticeable? When using the paddles it does not do this? Anyone having similar issue? do I have a problem with the PDK box (my dealer says it normal and will bed in? just done 200 miles. Any advice would be appreciated. BoxS PDK.. heard a couple of clunks as you describe early on but not heard anything for a while, now on 2600m. Enjoy the car, rag it after 2000m, if you have a problem with the box (I dont think you have) it will appear within the next 2 years and under warranty.

thanks for your comments - yes thats what the warranty is for- will persevere a little longer and see if it settles down.

One of the things which steered me towards a manual is that I found in gentle driving it was far from unusual to get a bit of a "clunk" from the PDK. Shuffling between traffic lights and stuff like that. Fine on the move though.

Ozzie Osmond said: One of the things which steered me towards a manual is that I found in gentle driving it was far from unusual to get a bit of a "clunk" from the PDK. Shuffling between traffic lights and stuff like that. Fine on the move though. Yep agree. Not sure if it's just me but as the miles rack up I find sometimes that "clunk" is getting louder. Anyone else find that? I'm at 13k miles.

Happened to see this earlier: http://www.worldcarfans.com/114020269614/wcf-reade... Don't know if it's a repost, thought it might interest someone

Those wheels really don't suit it. I saw a 991 turbo at an OPC yesterday with those wheels - don't think they're Porsches finest design.

Zyp said: I saw a 991 turbo at an OPC yesterday with those wheels - don't think they're Porsches finest design. Some people think wine must be good if it has 15% alcohol or more. And some people think wheels must be good if they have 20" diameter or more. "Never mind the quality, feel the width." !! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nev...

It wasn't particularly the size I found offensive, rather the design. They just don't look great.

Zyp said: It wasn't particularly the size I found offensive, rather the design. My point entirely - just because they're big doesn't mean they look good. Purely personal opinion of course.

Audi RS wheel design.......

Newbie, so be gentle Great thread and have spent a few hours reading the posts, some great advice. I am looking at trading in the TTS to get a Boxster S. Anyone had any experience in getting a discount of the dealer when buying new, or do Porsche never discount? TIA N

Noel74 said: Anyone had any experience in getting a discount of the dealer when buying new, or do Porsche never discount? TIA N I got a small contribution that basically covered the RFL for a new reg car, but no "proper" % discount and I did ask about it. That was about 18 months ago now though

New Boxster ordered June last year. I got 10% off the list price including options on a built to order car. Did involve a lot of serious negotiation with 6 OPC's and had to take finance from Porsche (VW). Settled it off after a month. In the mix was also a £500 contribution (incl. in the 10%) from Porsche finance which is not the case at the momment

I don't know the specification of your car but quite simply the more you load it with fat margin options the more likely you are to be able to negotiate a discount. A huge slice of their profit is (can be) in the options.

I was very careful in loading it with options. Only 7 in total 1. PDK 2. Cayman S 19" wheels 3. Cruise control 4. Wind deflector 5. Heated Seats 6. Auto dim mirrors 7. Sports tailpipes 8. Smokers pack. This was free !!! Wanted this to make central area neater, I do not smoke. No expensive options of leather, sat-nav, xenons, sports chrono etc

So this is the initial spec I am toying with. Feel free to throw rocks at it. Unsure about the wheels? Boxster S N0 Agate Grey Metallic £ 558.00 Interior Colour AJ Black Sports seats plus or Adaptive or Bucket £ 0.00 Exterior 551 Wind deflector £ 182.00 567 Top tinted windscreen £ 77.00 636 ParkAssist front and rear £ 599.00 748 Electric folding outside mirrors £ 202.00 P13 Automatically dimming interior and exterior mirrors with integrated rain sensor £ 332.00 Transmission / Chassis 250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) £ 1,922.00 Wheels 423 20-inch Carrera S wheel £ 971.00 Wheel Accessories 482 Tyre Pressure monitoring system (TPM) £ 421.00 XDH Wheels painted in satin platinu £ 477.00 Interior 342 Seat heating £ 283.00 454 Cruise control £ 267.00 573 2-zone automatic air conditioning £ 518.00 810 Floor mats £ 73.00 P04 Sports seats Plus (2-way, electric) £ 1,291.00 XSX Guards Red seat belts Exclusive £ 166.00 Audio / Communications 666 Telephone module for PCM £ 526.00 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 691 Digital radio (DAB, DAB, DMB) £ 324.00 P23 Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interface £ 2,141.00 Edited by Noel74 on Thursday 27th February 07:43

Very similar to my spec Noel - only 4 things I would definitely say I couldnt live without - Boxter S, Sports Exhaust, Full leather Dash, PDK. I have my deposit on a GT3 but I can certainly say I will miss her once she's gone and after all the recent GT3 issues not really sure if I am doing the right thing.

Noel74 said: So this is the initial spec I am toying with. Feel free to throw rocks at it. Unsure about the wheels? Boxster S N0 Agate Grey Metallic £ 558.00 Interior Colour AJ Black Sports seats plus or Adaptive or Bucket £ 0.00 Exterior 551 Wind deflector £ 182.00 567 Top tinted windscreen £ 77.00 636 ParkAssist front and rear £ 599.00 748 Electric folding outside mirrors £ 202.00 P13 Automatically dimming interior and exterior mirrors with integrated rain sensor £ 332.00 Transmission / Chassis 250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) £ 1,922.00 Wheels 423 20-inch Carrera S wheel £ 971.00 Wheel Accessories 482 Tyre Pressure monitoring system (TPM) £ 421.00 XDH Wheels painted in satin platinu £ 477.00 Interior 342 Seat heating £ 283.00 454 Cruise control £ 267.00 573 2-zone automatic air conditioning £ 518.00 810 Floor mats £ 73.00 P04 Sports seats Plus (2-way, electric) £ 1,291.00 XSX Guards Red seat belts Exclusive £ 166.00 Audio / Communications 666 Telephone module for PCM £ 526.00 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 691 Digital radio (DAB, DAB, DMB) £ 324.00 P23 Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interface £ 2,141.00 Edited by Noel74 on Thursday 27th February 07:43 Options are a personal thing depending on what you want out of the car, so this is merely my opinion TPM - wouldn't bother, just check the pressures yourself DAB radio - reception issues? Apart from station choice, what is the benefit over standard radio in a car? Telephone module - I have it on mine and I wonder why. Seems to be only of use if you intend to put a SIM card into the PCM module itself (as opposed to Bluetooth connection to the phone) Carrera S wheels - I like these, but I wonder if you will miss not having PASM on 20" rims in addition: Sports Exhaust - really do consider this, changes the exhaust note a lot and is one option I wouldn't skip if I were ordering again Manual transmission - unless you really want PDK, then save and get a manual. The gearbox is lovely and really suits the car "Proper" colour - I find grey a bit depressing on a sports car

Forgot to say, if you do go PDK then get the Sport Design steering wheel else you don't get the paddles behind the wheel!

Moogs right on the steering wheel - I forgot that is a must in my opinion. As for his Greys a boring colour statement - I feel it's a colour that exudes class lol

Moog72 said: Options are a personal thing depending on what you want out of the car, so this is merely my opinion TPM - wouldn't bother, just check the pressures yourself DAB radio - reception issues? Apart from station choice, what is the benefit over standard radio in a car? Telephone module - I have it on mine and I wonder why. Seems to be only of use if you intend to put a SIM card into the PCM module itself (as opposed to Bluetooth connection to the phone) Carrera S wheels - I like these, but I wonder if you will miss not having PASM on 20" rims in addition: Sports Exhaust - really do consider this, changes the exhaust note a lot and is one option I wouldn't skip if I were ordering again Manual transmission - unless you really want PDK, then save and get a manual. The gearbox is lovely and really suits the car "Proper" colour - I find grey a bit depressing on a sports car Ah ok, so can connect via bluetooth without the need of the phone module? DAB fair point - to be honest mostly listen to music via the ipod or a bit of football on five live so that can go Prefer to drive an auto - so PDK staying. Colour - Other colours I am toying with are red, then with black wheels, silver or blue. Need to see the colours in the flesh. Having read through this thread, I am beginning to think about the sports exhaust. Thanks for the input Edited by Noel74 on Thursday 27th February 10:15

Noel74 said: Ah ok, so can connect via bluetooth without the need of the phone module? Well you could have the Bluetooth prep instead which is around £100 cheaper. That's bluetooth 'handsfree' only though. My understanding is that the phone module also allows rSAP over bluetooth, which is much better (it accesses just the SIM in the phone, but it uses the phone and the more powerful antenna built into the car itself to make the calls). But I have an iphone, which doesn't allow rSAP, so can't give you first-hand experience. As mentioned above, the phone module also gives you the SIM slot. S

Moog72 said: "Proper" colour - I find grey a bit depressing on a sports car What he said. Why anyone willingly chooses grey or black for Convertibles is beyond me. It's a Summer car FFS!

^it's an all-year-round car! As long as the OPC remembered to include the heated seats in the order ;-) But if you use the car and don't want to have to keep washing it at this time of year, Agate Grey is a pretty fantastic colour for not looking like cr*p when it's actually completely covered in cr*p. S

Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding.

monamimate said: Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding. Have you ticked the little box for sound surround in the audio menu? Until I ticked the box mine sounded very average.

Al's 991 said: monamimate said: Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding. Have you ticked the little box for sound surround in the audio menu? Until I ticked the box mine sounded very average. the other thing is to make sure that there is at least 3 inches of space between rear speakers and front seats

Al's 991 said: monamimate said: Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding. Have you ticked the little box for sound surround in the audio menu? Until I ticked the box mine sounded very average. Yes. I've ticked and unticked every setting I could find... but still can't say I'm happy with it. Sound lacks clarity...

SFO said: Al's 991 said: monamimate said: Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding. Have you ticked the little box for sound surround in the audio menu? Until I ticked the box mine sounded very average. the other thing is to make sure that there is at least 3 inches of space between rear speakers and front seats Really? I will check that and let you know. Thanks.

monamimate said: Al's 991 said: monamimate said: Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding. Have you ticked the little box for sound surround in the audio menu? Until I ticked the box mine sounded very average. Yes. I've ticked and unticked every setting I could find... but still can't say I'm happy with it. Sound lacks clarity... You'll never get clarity from Bose due to the way it processes sound. The saying goes "Bose - all mids, no highs or lows". Mine is resting in peace in the attic... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=112...

SonnyM said: monamimate said: Al's 991 said: monamimate said: Noel74 said: 680 BOSE® Surround Sound System £ 801.00 I have to say that I have been pretty disappointed with the Bose system. Thumpy base and shrill treble. My humble Fiat 500's system sounds better. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would recommend having a good listening comparison before deciding. Have you ticked the little box for sound surround in the audio menu? Until I ticked the box mine sounded very average. Yes. I've ticked and unticked every setting I could find... but still can't say I'm happy with it. Sound lacks clarity... You'll never get clarity from Bose due to the way it processes sound. The saying goes "Bose - all mids, no highs or lows". Mine is resting in peace in the attic... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=112... 981 Bose is a huge improvement on 987 Bose .. I had both.

SFO said: 981 Bose is a huge improvement on 987 Bose .. I had both. Indeed, very happy with my choice of Bose in the 981 - sounds great (to my ears at least, and that's all that matters )

Moog72 said: Indeed, very happy with my choice of Bose in the 981 - sounds great (to my ears at least, and that's all that matters ) It took me a short while to get used to and now I'm very happy with it. Not least because I recently had a loan car with the base stereo - and it seemed very poor in comparison. One thing annoys me though - no automatic speed-related volume adjustment on the Bose!! Absolutely infuriating, especially with no volume control on the steering wheel and the volume knob on the other side of the car.

Moog72 said: SFO said: 981 Bose is a huge improvement on 987 Bose .. I had both. Indeed, very happy with my choice of Bose in the 981 - sounds great (to my ears at least, and that's all that matters ) Absolutely - hence my suggestion that he should have a good listen before deciding…

The Burmester system sounds very good - I listened to it in a Cayman and was impressed by everything except the price!

Bose does have speed related volume auto adjust. Its called something else though.

Bennachie said: Bose does have speed related volume auto adjust. Its called something else though. Audio Pilot

Once again thanks for all the input . Pick up a boxster s from the dealer tomorrow for the rest of the weekend ) Will probably be back on here with a whole load more questions! N

monamimate said: Finally made it back to the Nordschleife once again for a few laps. Very impressed by the car which is, of course, a lot more capable than me! Didn't get in the way of many GT2s and 3s (well, ok, quite a few actually). Some of the 981's ancestors were also in attendance... Edited by monamimate on Friday 21st June 14:10 Edited by monamimate on Friday 21st June 15:28 Edited by monamimate on Saturday 22 June 14:17 What a seriously good looking car. Really makes me want to get the man maths calculator out. Whats servicing and brakes cost like? Not sure Id want to run one at 25....

Hi all, Getting further down the buying process. Regarding getting a tracker fitted...My Porsche dealer has told me, that the third party trackers cause loads of problems with the new boxster...so surprise, surprise its fit the Porsche one, or don't do it is the advice from the dealer. Is he telling me porkie pies? TIA N

No info on 3rd party compatibility however the Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) is very expensive to fit - my dealer said "would you really want it back if it was nicked?" and that it's quite rare to fit the system to a Boxster. You ultimately decide I guess. Some insurance companies require a tracker system, but some don't (Porsche Insurance for example), so any perceived savings on insurance could easily be wiped out by the cost of the VTS system in the first place

^agree with above. IIRC the issue with 3rd party trackers is that they technically invalidate the *extended* warranty on the car (should it be discovered) as they're non-OEM modifications.

Quick question: If you don't opt for 573 option: 2-zone automatic air conditioning £ 518.00 What do you get? i.e. is it 1-zone automatic air conditioning? Like in my 987 Boxster, it's got an Auto button and you set the temp in 0.5 degree steps.

RichB said: Quick question: If you don't opt for 573 option: 2-zone automatic air conditioning £ 518.00 What do you get? i.e. is it 1-zone automatic air conditioning? Like in my 987 Boxster, it's got an Auto button and you set the temp in 0.5 degree steps. 981 standard a/c is basic .. no temp readout, everything manual. Think dial from blue to red but with bars instead. standard a/c is poor, I was constantly fiddling with it .. which is a pain as the controls are just ahead of the gearshift.

Ah, thanks, so more basic than the basic a/c in the model before then.

I would definitely spec the 2-zone climate if you can, without it it's just a user adjustable cold air blower system and a pain to use - should really be standard on a car like this IMO, but it isn't

I wouldn't bother paying extra for the 2 zone climate. I paid extra in my previous two 987's and still had to keep upping or lowering the temp. My 981 has the non climate and works fine. Looks neat and less fussy too. Just my opinion of course

Ah yes, the great air con, con. Have to say I was upset when I took delivery of my 981 to find that single climate was not there and it was 'just air con'. Mind you having lived with it, it works quite well. Two zone is crackers for such a small cabin in my opinion in any case. Single auto would have been nice.

FrankCayman said: I wouldn't bother paying extra for the 2 zone climate. I paid extra in my previous two 987's and still had to keep upping or lowering the temp. My 981 has the non climate and works fine. Looks neat and less fussy too. Just my opinion of course ^^ This. Can't imagine you can create 2 climate zones in an open top car where you are sitting 6 inches apart. Didn't spec it on my Box S and don't regret it. Yes, the standard is fiddly with the gear lever in the way until you get used to it but once you do you will change settings without looking. Spend the money on something more interesting, PTV, PSE etc etc.

Bennachie said: Single auto would have been nice. Indeed and it seems odd that the new car has a system that is a retrograde step from the previous car.

Climate was an option on the 987.2 though (at least it was on my Spyder). I was disappointed when I discovered what was fitted to my Cayman but in reality it has been absolutely fine and works well.

Automatic climate (single zone ) was standard on my 987.2 Boxster. It's exactly what I expected as standard on the 981.

Bennachie said: Ah yes, the great air con, con. Have to say I was upset when I took delivery of my 981 to find that single climate was not there and it was 'just air con'. Mind you having lived with it, it works quite well. Two zone is crackers for such a small cabin in my opinion in any case. Single auto would have been nice. Agreed, that was more what I was trying to get at. I've never really understood the need for 2-zone on any car that I've had but single auto climate control should be standard on the 981. Set the temp and forget about it rather than having to manually adjust the airflow. Another example of Porsche squeezing every penny via the options list I'm afraid

Another confirmation that auto climate on 987.2 was an option.......... (at extra cost)

Bennachie said: Another confirmation that auto climate on 987.2 was an option.......... (at extra cost) Ah ok, I was under the mistaken belief that it was standard. I bought my car as a dealer demo vehicle and as they didn't mention the A/C during their spiel I assumed it was std.

To be honest, I never found any 'climate control' to really work. I used to set it at 18c , but it would be too hot in the summer yet too cold in the winter. If it worked correctly, it should feel like 18c all the time!!! If I remember correctly, the non climate control looked horrible in the 987's, but the non climate looks really neat in the 981. The salesman convinced me not to bother with the climate in the 981. He showed me a demo without it. I can honestly say, I have not regretted my decision. Another so called 'must have' which I ticked for both my 987's was partial leather. I went alcantara for my 981 and it looks and feels excellent!

FrankCayman said: To be honest, I never found any 'climate control' to really work. I used to set it at 18c , but it would be too hot in the summer yet too cold in the winter. If it worked correctly, it should feel like 18c all the time!!! Mine has worked well in all the cars I've owned. But then I never set it to 18c. The magic number seems to be 21c or thereabouts.

Hi, Is the options list with UK prices available anywhere on the net? Thanks

Hi Have a 981 Spyder. The car was specked with special light pack. The dipped beam seems to be adjusted too high, but I can’t find details of how to lower. Is this possible without taking into a garage? Thks Yberg