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PDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses

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YOUR RESEARCHPDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses

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Run sunoco race fuel

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6 spd manual developed 550 hp on the test stand and 447 RWHP on the dyno running Sunoco race fuel.

PDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses
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Run tpc turbocharged 3.8l race motor in a 2010

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Running a TPC turbocharged 3.8L race motor in a 2010

PDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses

Test stand and 447 rwhp

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6 spd manual developed 550 hp on the test stand and 447 RWHP on the dyno running Sunoco race fuel.

PDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses
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6 spd manual developed 550 hp on the test stand and 447 RWHP on the dyno running Sunoco race fuel.

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Running a TPC turbocharged 3.8L race motor in a 2010

PDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses

Test stand and 447 rwhp

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6 spd manual developed 550 hp on the test stand and 447 RWHP on the dyno running Sunoco race fuel.

PDK vs. 6 Speed Drivetrain Losses
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POST 1Original post

Does anyone know how the drive train power loss of a PDK compares with the 6 speed manual? I would expect the manual to lose about 15% but I have heard all kinds of estimates for the PDK that run as high as 25%. Are there any published reports out there?

POST 2Original post

since PDK claims to be "robotic manual" i would expect minimal differences between the two...

POST 3Original post

I can only speak relative to the 981 platform but there is no such thing as a generic drivetrain % loss. The transmission will consume a fixed amount of power at any given revs in a particular gear. This does not change as engine power increases. So a low power engine would show a higher transmission loss percentage than a high power engine. I have measured the transmission loss on my 981 Boxster S PDK . And the same numbers were also measured on a 987.2 Cayman R PDK . At 2,000 revs its 15.2 HP At 3,000 revs its 23.5 HP At 4,000 revs its 32.1 HP At 5,000 revs its 41.3 HP At 6,000 revs its 51.3 HP At 7,000 revs its 63.3 HP At 6700 revs where a 981 Boxster both S and base develop max power its. 59.8 HP. So Boxster 3.4 PDK is 315 HP crank and loss of 59.8 = 18.9% loss So Boxster 2.7 PDK is 265 HP crank and loss of 59.8 = 22.6% loss I suspect that there is little difference if any with the 6MT compared to the PDK . But I do not have empirical evidence as I do with the PDK . :cheers:

POST 4Original post

Running a TPC turbocharged 3.8L race motor in a 2010 Cayman 6 spd manual developed 550 hp on the test stand and 447 RWHP on the dyno running Sunoco race fuel. This is a 23.7% drivetrain loss which is a bit higher than reported by others, but likely due to larger race tires.

POST 5Original post

We typically see drivetrain losses in the single digits.. PDK and manual are going to have similar losses.

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