Value of a tiptronic 964 - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Hi All, Currently having a wee 'moment' on another thread regarding the asking price for this.... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3320053.htm I suggested that in no way was it worth £19K (nearer £13-£14K I thought) and the PH'r who originally posted it up has had a wee spit of his dummy. Now don't get me wrong, as an owner, I'd love for 964 prices to rocket but £19K for a tiptronic in a really boring colour combo?? COME ON!! So I thought I'd fire it out to the respected Beards in the Porsche forum to see what the general consensus might be... Thoughts? Edited by Ali2202 on Friday 18th November 11:47

I tend to agree with your valuation because it's a tip but don't agree with it being a boring colour combo. A black/black C2 manual coupe would generate a lot of interest from potential buyers IMO.

Horses for courses on the colour of course. Cheers for the thoughts on valuation too chap

Original thread (and scene of dummy spitting) here..... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

In terms of the colour combo, I would say it is a popular choice. Many people like black on black. I dont, but thats just me. I dont think anyone would deny that a tip is worth less than a manual on a 964, but how much, I'm not sure. There are still plenty of people who swear by them. And so to the value. I dont think we can comment accurately without inspecting the car as a rough one could be 10k and a minter could be over 20k. But considering the mileage, spec and apparent good condition at a dealer, it must be worth over 16k? MTR

It's a pretty high spec for that era, not many had A/C and if it works that makes the car a rarity and therefore attractive (to me at any rate). Those wheels look a bit weedy though. A Tip is not for everyone but if it is a really nice car then the price is only £1000 on the strong side in my view.

Not to mention that as prices hit rock bottom and slowly increase over time, the gearbox will have less impact on price than mileage/history/condition as the number of really good cars dwindles

As I said, we cant be accurate without an inspection but I did say over 16k. 14k private would be for an average 964 in my view. You wont get a really good one for that. MTR

All good points MTR (and others). Cheers! If your estimate is circa £16K at a dealer could we assume circa £14K on a Private sale for the car in question? This guy's asking for £19K for this 'tip' though! ... AND he also reckons my Tahoe C2 (recently resprayed,FSH,engine rebuild,great condition with 120K on the clock) is overvalued at £16K! Edited by Ali2202 on Friday 18th November 13:00

Cheers MTR, So what would you pay for a great condition black/black tiptronic 964 on 16's and a mileage heading towards possible engine-rebuild territory? I'm not being argumentative Fella...just would like to know if it was YOUR cash, what would you pay? For me - £14K (however wouldn't buy a 'tip' anyhoo )

Would i or anyone else pay 1k less for even the most amazing tip than the guards red manual minter with about 40k miles on it that went a few weeks back? i dont think so

The car is with Paul Devyea and he does not usually get his prices wrong or he certainly did'nt when he was at La Rose and I was looking for a 993. Didn't have one I wanted but his prices were very competitive. Same again when I was looking for a Turbo.

Ali2202 said: Cheers MTR, So what would you pay for a great condition black/black tiptronic 964 on 16's and a mileage heading towards possible engine-rebuild territory? I'm not being argumentative Fella...just would like to know if it was YOUR cash, what would you pay? For me - £14K (however wouldn't buy a 'tip' anyhoo ) Its not really relevant what I would pay as I wouldnt buy a tip and black is not my preference. Your engine rebuild comment is a leading question unless you have proof? I personally like the 964 very much and would pay up to 20k for a mint manual Coupe C2. Not sure how relevant this is though. MTR

Certainly if it's in as good condition as it looks with the A/C working, you'd have to be very lucky to get it for 14k privately. I think that 19k is too much to pay from a dealer, but as a price to start negotiating from it's not too toppy. So fpr me if it's tip-top, 15.5 privately and 17.5 dealer. But conditiona and history is everything. Bert

19k should buy an exceptional C2 manual, either original with low miles or with major work done recently. A tip car would not interest a majority of C2 manual buyers anyway, but a genuine well cared for tip I would expect to be 2-3k behind in price. Fair value for the car shown I would say 15k private would be doing very well.

RC said: Would i or anyone else pay 1k less for even the most amazing tip than the guards red manual minter with about 40k miles on it that went a few weeks back? i dont think so That's true, but I think that red one was way too cheap, and the fact it went in a few days probably confirms that.

IMO it is overpriced. Take a look at http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2803014.htm I don't think there is nearly 5k difference between those cars. No A/C but the cars that I have seen owned by PC Members tend to be in pretty good nick. Whatever you do, get the thing inspected. Edited by 996ttalot on Friday 18th November 15:35

Those were the days eh. £20k would get you nothing in the 964 world!

Carlton Banks said: Those were the days eh. £20k would get you nothing in the 964 world! 1991 C2 manual, black with light great interior. …. Bought 2006 with 40K miles under her belt . £12750.00 from Adrian Crawford . Sold 12 months later to a Porsche Trader for £12500.00 who sold it on for £14K. Back then a 993 was around £25K if mem serves … Which was about the price of a reasonable condition 964RS. To my dying day I’ll never see why the standard C2 964 are worth now so much money . I never got on with mine … it was my first Porsche, so maybe I’d bought a bad one .

Wozy68 said: To my dying day I’ll never see why the standard C2 964 are worth now so much money . I never got on with mine … it was my first Porsche, so maybe I’d bought a bad one . Could well be the case for most owners.....difference being is that you found out from use, whereas most won't ever know a they don't get bought to be driven - that would be sacrilegious these days.

I paid £32,500 for a 911 Celebration in about 2000 (ish). Held onto it for four years and sold it for £18,000. It was a lovely colour but I hated the pinky interior, the road noise and the 4wd. Why these are now worth upwrards of £100,000 is beyond me.

I paid £32,500 for a 911 Celebration in about 2000 (ish). Held onto it for four years and sold it for £18,000. It was a lovely colour but I hated the pinky interior, the road noise and the 4wd. Why these are now worth upwrards of £100,000 is beyond me.

I bought my 5 yr old 40k miles 964 C2 in 1995 for £24k. Put another 50k miles on it in 4 years and sold it for £19.5k in 1999. It definitely needed aircon. Used to drive to work in the summer wearing a T shirt and then change into a shirt and tie. Recently bought a 996Turbo.