Anyone have experience with Meziere pumps?
http://www.meziere.com/index.php
typically lighter than stock pump, and takes no HP from the crank since its electric.
These pumps are great for race cars that get a lot of maintenance, but are not really practical for a street-driven car. A couple of points to consider:
1. It still takes HP to run the pump, it just doesn't come directly from the crank. The engine must turn the alternator harder to generate the electricity needed to run the pump.* There is no free lunch.
2. These pumps are not as durable as a normal, engine-driven water pump. 2400 hours rated lifespan is only a couple of years of normal driving.
* The electric pump is "HP-free" only when run in dragsters or other race vehicles with a "total loss" electrical system -- meaning that they don't have an alternator, and only run off the battery (the battery is charged by an external charger before the race). This would not be practical in a street-driven car.
Thanks for the explanation. They were a popular mod on the Mustangs.
I'll just have to keep looking for a free lunch somewhere else
Help me understand this: doesn't the alternator simply run off a pulley, at some reduced ratio to crank speed? How then do the engine "turn" the alternator harder? How is that manifested? The alternator does not increase its load on the engine.
As to life span at 2400 hours or so: Over past 3000 miles, I averaged 42mph. Call is 40mph. So that 96,000 miles or so. I average 12k miles a year, so that's 8 years. That's fine with me. I've replaced regular water pumps in cars at less than that. And if that gets me 5hp or so, then its not free, but its a low cost mod.
There is great energy lost in turning mechanical energy (crank) into electricity (battery) and turning electricity back into mechanical energy (electric alternator)
If you do regenerative braking then that's another story...
Most of the energy lost in the engine is in heat. There is free energy waiting for you to harness at the exhaust pipe
The most easy thing to do is an under drive pulley with relative low risk. It is simple with less thing going wrong.
Thanks for the detailed explanations...very helpful. I have a bad DIY habit. But I will defer to the wisdom of Collective.