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Replace with alloy ones

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The plastic pipes eventually fail, but are fairly easily replaced with alloy ones from the later cars.

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Replace centre bearing is a non-trivial task

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Both are replaceable, but replacing the centre bearing is a non-trivial task.

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Replace centre bearing is a non-trivial task

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Both are replaceable, but replacing the centre bearing is a non-trivial task.

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Replace entire cardan shaft is prolly more cost effective

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Replacing the entire cardan shaft is prolly more cost effective.

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Replace on high mileage cars

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Front control arms need replacing on high mileage cars.

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Run vin #

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As in could you run a VIN # with Porsche to see if it the fix has been done.

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Replace centre bearing is a non-trivial task

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Both are replaceable, but replacing the centre bearing is a non-trivial task.

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Replace entire cardan shaft is prolly more cost effective

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Replacing the entire cardan shaft is prolly more cost effective.

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Replace on high mileage cars

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Front control arms need replacing on high mileage cars.

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Replace with alloy ones

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The plastic pipes eventually fail, but are fairly easily replaced with alloy ones from the later cars.

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Run vin #

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As in could you run a VIN # with Porsche to see if it the fix has been done.

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Set (yeah, i'm

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use it daily, because I drive over a raised median strip on my way out of work every day which would likely scrape if I did it on the low setting (yeah, I'm that guy too!)

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Set could be good

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I think the Sport setting could be good, to stiffen it all up.

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Set much it really wakes it up

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The different settings are certainly noticeable, and while I don't often play with the sport setting much it really wakes it up.

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Set noticeable in the real world

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But then again are the different setting noticeable in the real world?

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Test drive/ look at

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Unfortunately not that many on market down here, so hard to test drive/ look at....

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hello all, Due to events of last night I have one very mangled Mercedes! It served me well and if any other car who knows what may have happened! Very lucky indeed. I am looking to replace with something equally as safe and although not my coveted 928, a Cayenne may well be my first P car (a wagon would be ideal as a family car) Question, are the early ones (2003 - 05 - or what ever I can get for around to $20k to $25k +/-) any good? Known issues/ fixes/ problems? Also considering other similar sized/ quality cars. Unfortunately not that many on market down here, so hard to test drive/ look at.... Thanking you

POST 2Original post

Sorry to hear that your Mercedes got mangled, but equally pleased that you did not! Early V8 Cayennes had plastic coolant pipes in the valley of the V.  The plastic pipes eventually fail, but are fairly easily replaced with alloy ones from the later cars.  If not picked up early, leaking water can fubar the starter. Cardan shafts have a centre bearing and a flex disk at one end.  Both of these can fail.  Both are replaceable, but replacing the centre bearing is a non-trivial task.  Replacing the entire cardan shaft is prolly more cost effective. Front control arms need replacing on high mileage cars. They're big, heavy suckers that are fast and need to stop fast.  Somethings got to give...and it's brakes, but that should not be a big surprise.  Unless you find a Turbo S, brakes won't be silly expensive.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, A bit sore and stiff today, but very thankful to still be here! A turbo would be nice (if you could get for that money) but may scare the shite out of my wife too much! Brakes not an issue, the beast needs to stop! Thanks for the rest, what do you consider to be a high mileage car? Hoping to find one with about 150 000 km or less on it. Cheers

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At a thumbsuck, I'd treat 15,000km per annum as average.  You're looking at cars that are 10-13 years old, so you should find one in your mileage range. At that age, if it hasn't had control arms replaced it's something to think about as a future service item. FWIW, these cars don't seem to have any major, spendy issues.  I've had a small number of people (as in literally 1 or 2 in the last year) ask about valve bodies for autos.  These are around $3,500 from Porsche, but a specialist may be able to refurb them.

POST 5Original post

Was there a TSB or recall on the coolant pipes? As in could you run a VIN # with Porsche to see if it the fix has been done.

POST 6Original post

Not as far as I know. I do know with absolute certainty that plenty have done outside of the dealer network, which would mean that they wouldn't show up on any Porsche database anyway.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks. Cayenne is the front runner, will see what turns up

POST 8Original post

One with 140k on the clock just sold here in Adelaide for $21k. Was advertised for $25k. Very nice silver car with documented servicing, bigger wheels and a few other Porsche extras, so theyre well within your price range.   A turbo might be a stretch, but who knows, ya might get lucky finding someone that needs the cash asap

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Cheers, good to know what they actually sell for. Something like this would do when claim finalised..... http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-Cayenne-2005/SSE-AD-3089465/?Cr=2

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok, car has officially been written off and just waiting on funds transfer. Does anyone know of a Cayenne for sale (I have scoured the usual locals- carsales, ebay, gumtree) up to $25k and less than (or around) 150000km, dark colour (black, dark blue, dark green, dark grey) with black interior and without massive bling bling wheels (as close to standard as possible)? Ideally in Tas, but very much prepared to travel to Vic and even NSW. thanking you

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Any owners of early (2003 - 2006) Cayennes out there with any good or bad experiences with their cars? Getting mixed messages about whether good or bad..... Any input appreciated. Thanks

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi guys and gals, Help sought from Cayenne owners. This car is top of my list so far. Question - is the interior faded badly or just crappy photos? Anyone got a Cayenne with same colour interior? Is faded/ dis-coloured is this common? http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-Cayenne-2004/AGC-AD-18080384/?Cr=4 Thanks

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interior looks okay to my amateur eye, but I did notice this one has a porsche crest on the boot lid, don't think that is stock - just an observation

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Hmm, did not notice that, well spotted. Now that I know about it, it looks odd... would be a simple remove I would think?? Cheers

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it does look weird but is also a sign that previous owner was very proud of their Porsche, so hopefully took very good care of it. Never tried to debadge a car before, hair dryer maybe? Hopefully not gorilla glued on!

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It should in theory just be double sided tape.... let you know if I end up getting it

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Did you see this one for sale in your neighbourhood? http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-Cayenne-2005/AGC-AD-17431465/?Cr=11

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes I have seen that car and driven it. It is a nice car with low km, but somewhat north of my $25k +/- budget. Have been thinking of a low offer....... Cheers

POST 19Original post

The 2004 with the tan interior you posted doesn't have the adjustable air suspension. The ad says "self levelling suspension" but it doesn't have the level controller or stiffness settings in the centre console like mine. The more expensive one has a photo of the air suspension controls:

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I thought that all Cayennes had self levelling suspension to compensate for loads, I believe this the be hydraulic? The switches on the right are for the PASM? I stand to be corrected though On further reading I am now confused ...... what I said above appears to be incorrect (about self levelling suspension...)

POST 21Original post

They might all be self-leveling, but the first one doesn't have air suspension. It will be steel-sprung. The switches on the right are for PASM. If all of those buttons are silver it will also have PDCC, like this: In my experience not many of the S models do.

POST 22 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok, thanks. From your experience is the PASM worth it, do you use it much? Do you think it is worth trying to find one with PASM? Thanks

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I am not sure for most of the guys on here, but I have adjustable height suspension in my ML 500 and I never touch it. Do you think you will actually play with it?

POST 24 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I think the Sport setting could be good, to stiffen it all up. But then again are the different setting noticeable in the real world?

POST 25Original post

I'm the kind of guy that loves playing with things like that, however I'm also the (only?) guy that uses mine off road regularly. I bought the Cayenne BECAUSE it had PASM, and I use it almost daily. In fact, at the moment I do use it daily, because I drive over a raised median strip on my way out of work every day which would likely scrape if I did it on the low setting (yeah, I'm that guy too!) The different settings are certainly noticeable, and while I don't often play with the sport setting much it really wakes it up. Would I tick the big $$$$ option on a new car? Probably not. But for a used car where there doesn't seem to be much (if any) price difference between the two I'd probably look for one with it.

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I have the sport option on the ML as well. For me at least, I don't really see the point in sport mode for an SUV. Maybe I suppose if I had to drive up an down Maquarie pass or similar road every day I might see it differently.

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Cool. I am the kind to press the Sport button and most likely leave it there! Tassie is all twisting roads, so could come in handy

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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/glenelg/cars-vans-utes/porsche-cayenne-black-22-inch-wheels/1084807871 2 minutes from me

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Hmm, I am not sure about that one? Would need new wheels (not a fan of huge wheels on them), km are slightly high and it has grey interior. Yes I am being picky, but I feel that I can and should be - it has to be right Starting to think that I need to up my spend a bit... This one is high up there http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-Cayenne-2003/OAG-AD-2191558/?Cr=0 and has already been discounted after initial chat to dealer. The local Porsche dealer one is also piquing my interest, although would need a fairly low offer to secure.... http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/AGC-AD-17431465 Both are low km and great colour combos, plus have PASM and other goodies. Main bonus on the local one is that I know exactly what it is like and what it drives like... This one looks stunning too! http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3509358 Wish there were more local to look at... Thanks

POST 30 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Earlier model and higher km for less $$$ http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/toowoomba-4350/cars-vans-utes/2004-porsche-cayenne-wagon/1084498544 or higher km later model for less $$$ http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3281261 Or lower km late model for more $$$ (and one that I have actually seen!) http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/AGC-AD-17431465 ????? Bloody confusing the shite out of me......

POST 31Original post

I like the last one but what about this: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-Cayenne-2004/OAG-AD-2696350/?Cr=12 Similar km and nice colour too.

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I have seen that one and has been high on my list. A close look at the pics though shows a missing fog light and seat control button, I know not much but why would you not fix such simple and cheap items?? Could be nothing or a leader into the condition of the car..... or am I reading too much into it?? Car is at Meridian Prestige in Five Dock, any close by for a quick look? Edit: Scratch that, after a chat to the dealer no longer on the list.....

POST 33 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

New car bought, not a Porsche but still a very fine motor car, Mercedes ML350 and leaves room for future 928....

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you might need the 928 for when you are getting the MLs electrics fixed - and you might need the ML for when you are getting the 928s electrics fixed - kind of an endless loop (pardon the pun).......

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I'm yet to pay an auto electrician a cent in 35 years. Sorry chaps!

POST 37Original post

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my Mercedes Benz r320 has been faultless now for two weeks. I'm happy.

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Yes, but you do have the 'simple' 928.

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Still has a relay for every circuit and several km of wires and accessories. Quite happy to tackle any complex 928 if you have a problem that your man can't fix Most problems relate to old wiring , 1000s of heat cycles,  humidity and of course maritime climates. I hope you have the plastic battery post cover in your engine bay protecting the 14 pin harness connector. Bad bad location ,  Mr Porsche. Even then - engine harness probably cooked but - straightforward rebuild for real man . So that's the story for many decades old cars. What's the excuse for these 5- 10 year old newbies?

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Too much information , comrade

POST 42 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I am laughing now at the local dealer that dicked me around on the Cayenne purchase, they have just re-listed the car!! haha!!

POST 43 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Laughing more now after the dealer left a message on my phone inviting me back to view the car again. Wish I had of been home.... Different salesperson though....

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Take him up on the offer, turn up in the MB and score a free coffee and grovel

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I'd love to, but I really can't be bothered plus the MB is such a great car - very little difference between it and a Cayenne.....

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Car is still for sale at the dealer....

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