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YOUR RESEARCHPlease help. Horn going off when I turn?

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Install brand new 2013 s65 engine

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This car has a BMW factory replaced and BMW dealership-installed BRAND NEW 2013 S65 engine WITH remaining BMW Extended Vehicle Protection FACTORY WARRANTY until February 6th, 2016 or 79,900 miles!

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Adjust each shock

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Electronic Damper Control (EDC): By the push of a button, the car will electronically adjust each shock to suit the driving conditions, meaning that you'll enjoy outstanding comfort or stiffen up the suspension for a truly sporty feel.

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Install sub

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The mids are great, and it comes with a factory installed sub.

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Replace engine

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When BMW replaced the engine with a new 2013 long block, my clutch was measured at .90MM, which means that it had 90% life left!

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Replace entire long block

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The entire long block was replaced, which eliminated any potential issues in the future.

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Replace oil

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The oil was changed every 3,000-4,000 miles on average.

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Adjust each shock

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Electronic Damper Control (EDC): By the push of a button, the car will electronically adjust each shock to suit the driving conditions, meaning that you'll enjoy outstanding comfort or stiffen up the suspension for a truly sporty feel.

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Check diagnostics and other important service information

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Also, you can control the radio, climate control, check diagnostics and other important service information.

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Clean like

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I want mine to look clean like that!

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Disconnect battery

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Remember to disconnect the battery before you unplug the airbag and make sure to reconnect the airbag before you reconnect the battery!

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Fill with gas

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Simply fill with gas, change the oil 3-5k miles, and enjoy!

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Install brand new 2013 s65 engine

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This car has a BMW factory replaced and BMW dealership-installed BRAND NEW 2013 S65 engine WITH remaining BMW Extended Vehicle Protection FACTORY WARRANTY until February 6th, 2016 or 79,900 miles!

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Install sub

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The mids are great, and it comes with a factory installed sub.

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Reconnect airbag

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Remember to disconnect the battery before you unplug the airbag and make sure to reconnect the airbag before you reconnect the battery!

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Reconnect battery

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Remember to disconnect the battery before you unplug the airbag and make sure to reconnect the airbag before you reconnect the battery!

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Repair current engine

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I could repair the current engine with upgraded rod bearings, or see what the warranty would cover.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My 99 C2 is honking when I make a sharp turn, or bumpy turn. If I hold the horn/steering wheel cover out, it stops, but it's embarrassing. What is the fix? I also need to pull my spark plug tubes. What is best to use...Marine plug of some type? Thanks for any help.

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Year: 2008 Make: BMW Model: M3 Price: $37800 Mileage: 70320 Color: Alpine White with Carbon Fiber Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing Location (State): CA Transmission: Manual Drivetrain: Rear Wheel Drive This for sale is my personal M3 and has approval from GT3 Chuck! Must see the auction on eBay to read all about it and see all the 120 pictures! Auction Number: 271988631637 BMW Extended Vehicle Protection FACTORY WARRANTY until February 6th, 2016 or 79,900 miles! Up for sale is my own personal 2008 BMW M3! The exterior is finished in the absolutely beautiful Alpine White paint that truly looks dripping wet outside in the sun. To make it even better, it has the very desirable Black Novilio FULL LEATHER interior package! The extended leather package is a rare option, and makes you realize just how special this car is every time that you sit inside. It has never been smoked in and it never had any pets inside! This is truly the example that you have been waiting for. 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Electronic Damper Control (EDC): By the push of a button, the car will electronically adjust each shock to suit the driving conditions, meaning that you'll enjoy outstanding comfort or stiffen up the suspension for a truly sporty feel. This is a must-have feature whether you're taking a cruise up the coast, or want stiffer suspension for spirited driving! Comfort Access system: Also known as push-to-start! This is an AWESOME feature that you have to have. You don’t need to touch your keys, whether they're in your pocket or your duffle bag. You can simply lock or unlock the car by having the key fob in proximity. Walk up to the car, grab the door handle and it unlocks! Same goes for starting the engine. Simply press the start button and you don’t need to take the keys out of your pocket! Very convenient! GPS Navigation: The iDrive is a very nice feature. Program your destination and BMW’s navigation will display your route and use voice guidance to guide you to wherever you’re going. 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POST 3Original post

LOL!!!! I'm sorry I don't have a fix (except maybe removing and replacing the horn cover maybe?) but I imagine this being very hil arious and frustrating at the same time. GL!

POST 5Original post

As I recall, there are some little rubber bumpers on the steering wheel frame that deteriorate over time. This allows metal-to-metal contact when you turn or brake hard, which causes the horn to honk. You should be able to find a DIY fix online on rennlist or renntech. Remember to disconnect the battery before you unplug the airbag and make sure to reconnect the airbag before you reconnect the battery! Otherwise you'll get a CEL.

POST 7Original post

Dennis C has the right idea. There is a metal horn plate under the airbag cover which has 4 rubber bumpers. Replacement price for a new plate is around $50 if that's the problem. Hope you get it fixed.

POST 8Original post

On the spark plug tubes I used an 1-1/4" and shaved it a bit the 1" model was too small. I also used a chip puller I had in the tool box on angle the teeth were no long enough to scratch anything. All inexpensive parts I replace the tube and the seals.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The horn is definitely from the weight of the air bag compressing the rubber underneath. I also noticed, it only does this when it is really hot. it was honking like crazy tonight 103 degrees, but this morning at 70 degrees, it did not honk at all. I just stuffed some thick paper around the air bag cover before i drove home from work. It did not honk after that. Does anyone know the part number for the rubber spacer? Also, thanks for the diameter for the marine plug. I'm not sure what a chip puller is though. What does that do? Sorry, but I just want to be sure and do it right. I have oil drips on my headers right after doing spark plug changes. I'm pretty sure it's the plug tubes on passenger rear side only. Looks like some seepage around that area under the headers too? Not sure what is causing the gunk in that area.

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Chip puller was used back in the day when you could remove and swap chips on a circuit board. I had my car apart and the 1" plug didn't fit so I opened up the chip puller and inserted it all the way hooked the tube and popped it out. My Cam seals were leaking also so I ended up pulling the rear bumper and the mufflers out to see what I was doing. Also had an engine covered in gunk perfect time to clean it. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...126_134844.jpg Stainless Steel with Insulated Vinyl Grip IC Puller - ET-10 - Amazon.com Stainless Steel with Insulated Vinyl Grip IC Puller - ET-10 - Amazon.com

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Looks great! I want mine to look clean like that! Thanks for the chip puller link. Awesome!

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Lot of oil and grease but very easy to fix. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r...119_124852.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f...119_124719.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4...408_133739.jpg

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[QUOTE=BOOSTTT;3913440]The horn is definitely from the weight of the air bag compressing the rubber underneath. I also noticed, it only does this when it is really hot. it was honking like crazy tonight 103 degrees, but this morning at 70 degrees, it did not honk at all. I just stuffed some thick paper around the air bag cover before i drove home from work. It did not honk after that. Does anyone know the part number for the rubber spacer? QUOTE] Here you go. Looks like prices have gone up a bit since I last replaced mine. http://www.partstrain.com/store/deta...3-1646393.html

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, pors. Funny how well paper has been working. : ). Hey Jay, that's just what my engine looks like in that last rear pic. I hope to get the chip puller and do the job this wk end.

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