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Surely however the OP plans on using the car dictates that?
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Hi everybody,
I have a Cayman GT4 on order for mid June and I was wondering whether it would be a good idea to get PPF on it?
This is my first Porsche I have owned and have never had PPF on any car.
I would appreciate any suggestions or comments from people who could maybe give me some advice.
Thank you very much
Taylor
av185 said:
Complete waste of money imo.
Just don't use on inappropriate roads or conditions e.g heavily salted.
Why do you feel it is a waste of money? Surely however the OP plans on using the car dictates that?
Where are you based OP?
I had mine done, full front, sides and ceramic coated for £2,800. I am tracking the car so wanted a bit more protection, it cost very little compared to the overall cost of the car...
It's definitely not what I'd call a waste of money; especially if you're someone who likes to keep their cars in tip-top nick. It's not for me personally, as i don't really care about the odd stone chip and such anymore, but i can imagine on a car like that why you might wanna keep it in the best condition possible.
culpz said:
It's definitely not what I'd call a waste of money; especially if you're someone who likes to keep their cars in tip-top nick. It's not for me personally, as i don't really care about the odd stone chip and such anymore, but i can imagine on a car like that why you might wanna keep it in the best condition possible.
PPF doesn't totally protect the car from stone chips though.....contrary to popular belief.
And it can actually look worse depending on the stone chip.
Also can restrict resale in some cases especially as many applications are below par.
Most buyers including myself would prefer an original unmolested unwrapped cared for Porsche GT everytime.
av185 said:
Most buyers including myself would prefer an original unmolested unwrapped cared for Porsche GT everytime.
What was your sample size on this survey?
av185 said:
PPF doesn't totally protect the car from stone chips though.....contrary to popular belief.
And it can actually look worse depending on the stone chip.
Also can restrict resale in some cases especially as many applications are below par.
Most buyers including myself would prefer an original unmolested unwrapped cared for Porsche GT everytime.
We're just talking about clear protective film not a full wrap, right? In which case surely just have it professionally removed if it looks tatty, leave it on if it doesn't? Can't see how it would restrict resale at all - it's hardly "molesting" the car is it?
That said, I'm not sure I'd have it applied to any car I bought - cost seems excessive given the limited advantages. Ignoring the fact that my cars are all second hand and pre-stone chipped anyway
I have it on one of the toys - it has certainly protected the front end from stone chips so it was money well spent. I’d rather have PPF than have to book it in for a front end respray each year but each to their own.
Rojibo said:
I had mine done, full front, sides and ceramic coated for £2,800. I am tracking the car so wanted a bit more protection, it cost very little compared to the overall cost of the car...
Wouldn't putting the car on a track have 10 times more issues than stonechips
Rojibo said:
av185 said:
Most buyers including myself would prefer an original unmolested unwrapped cared for Porsche GT everytime.
What was your sample size on this survey?
N=1
I'm not a GT owner, not even a Porsche owner..... but I have PPF on my car and have done on previous cars too.
Here's why I think it's a no-brainer on your car, based on experiences in my last 3 cars:
In 5 years I have spent circa £8k on PPF. I can hand on heart say that I've been saved from at least £12k of paint repairs as a result...... and the condition of the paint under the PPF is much better come sale time than it would be without it.
Of course, you may not have any bad luck and you may not do a lot of miles. But, if you're like me and you do trackdays, shopping, holidays etc in your car then I would say it's 100% worth it.
av185 said:
culpz said:
It's definitely not what I'd call a waste of money; especially if you're someone who likes to keep their cars in tip-top nick. It's not for me personally, as i don't really care about the odd stone chip and such anymore, but i can imagine on a car like that why you might wanna keep it in the best condition possible.
PPF doesn't totally protect the car from stone chips though.....contrary to popular belief.
And it can actually look worse depending on the stone chip.
Also can restrict resale in some cases especially as many applications are below par.
Most buyers including myself would prefer an original unmolested unwrapped cared for Porsche GT everytime.
What does it do then?
As already stated, it's not permanent. Surely it's no harder than having a wrap removed, and usually most people only have it done on areas particularly prone to paint damage, so it's not like the full car has been done. Wouldn't have thought it would put people off, either. More the opposite, i would imagine.
As i said, it's not for me, but i can see why others might see it as a good idea.
OP, are you buying the car or leasing it?
If you're leasing it, at the end of the term they will expect some normal stone-chipping so don't waste your money keeping it perfect for the next owner.
If you're buying the car with a view to keeping it, cherishing it and retaining as much value as possible, only you will know if the kind of driving you'll be doing will cause more damage than £2,800 worth of PPF will save. Personally cheap or badly applied PPF looks terrible stands out a mile and certainly looks worse than a normal splattering of road-rash. The better PPF is expensive to the point that occasional front-end resprays become more economic.
Hi everybody
Thank you for all of the comments. I am still deciding whether to have PPF done. I am in Leicester and have contacted multiple places about PPF but their figures are £2500 + just for the front... Does anybody know any reputable PPF companies based in Leicester? I am looking to pay not much more than £1000 as I cannot see the value in PPF.
Thanks
Taylor
ecain63 said:
In 5 years I have spent circa £8k on PPF. I can hand on heart say that I've been saved from at least £12k of paint repairs as a result......
What have you been doing to possibly warrant 12k in paint repairs in 5 years...? Or do you mean that after year one a front-end respray is needed due to paint chips which you find unsightly. (Repeated each year over 5 years = 12k?)
FBIBARRY said:
Hi everybody
Thank you for all of the comments. I am still deciding whether to have PPF done. I am in Leicester and have contacted multiple places about PPF but their figures are £2500 + just for the front... Does anybody know any reputable PPF companies based in Leicester? I am looking to pay not much more than £1000 as I cannot see the value in PPF.
Thanks
Taylor
Not that local to you, but the PPF for my 718 GT4 was £1750 for the front end, from Invisible Patterns up near Manchester. They’ve done an excellent job.
I doubt you’ll get much of anything for £1000.
The Surveyor said:
OP, are you buying the car or leasing it?
If you're leasing it, at the end of the term they will expect some normal stone-chipping so don't waste your money keeping it perfect for the next owner.
If you're buying the car with a view to keeping it, cherishing it and retaining as much value as possible, only you will know if the kind of driving you'll be doing will cause more damage than £2,800 worth of PPF will save. Personally cheap or badly applied PPF looks terrible stands out a mile and certainly looks worse than a normal splattering of road-rash. The better PPF is expensive to the point that occasional front-end resprays become more economic.
I am purchasing the car. I am not going to be doing a lot of mileage per year and so I am leaning towards little to no PPF as I feel I will not incur damages of over £2000.
my friend didn't get PPF on his 781 GT4 - a couple of months and one front end respray later he decided to get the whole car done as its was cheaper I n the long run.
andyvvc said:
What have you been doing to possibly warrant 12k in paint repairs in 5 years...? Or do you mean that after year one a front-end respray is needed due to paint chips which you find unsightly. (Repeated each year over 5 years = 12k?)
I mean that in my case I would have needed to pay out on multiple paint repairs as a result of carpark scrapes, trackday damage and other accidents. It's not that I'm a s
t driver, just that I had a bad run of it. My Alfa QF had expensive tri-coat paint and my Exige 410 is metallic and obviously made of fibreglass. PPF has saved my bacon big time on a few occasions.
My cars get used hard compared to most. 15 trackdays last year (2020) and previous years have seen them at vmax, the Nurburgring and other events.
As I said, the OP may not do trackdays or long drives across Europe, but if I had a GT4 I'd be keen to use it in those environments...... and protect the paint as best I could.
NelsonM3 said:
Why do you feel it is a waste of money? Surely however the OP plans on using the car dictates that?
Indeed. If the OP decides to something other than driving and enjoying his new purchase, then he will need PPF.
Intends to drive and enjoy the car for what it was intended = No PPF
Car is owned by ecain63 and is driven as-intended + tracked + driven even more = PPF
Will be fearful of a few paint chips = PPF
Believes all the PPF based sales pitches = PPF
Paranoid about causing depreciation due to stone chips = PPF
Worried that loads of YouTubers talk about PPF as if it is the second coming = PPF
Listens to those on here who love PPF (but hardly drive their cars) = PPF
I'm sure the OP gets the picture :O)
Edited by andyvvc on Tuesday 5th January 09:30
ecain63 said:
My cars get used hard compared to most. 15 trackdays last year (2020) and previous years have seen them at vmax, the Nurburgring and other events.
I've edited my original post chap. Genuine kudos to you for owning the cars you do and (more importantly) driving them and tracking them more than most would. You sir, are allowed to use PPF
Some people on PH and in the wider world don't like it because some people have made money and built successful businesses from its application. Other people making more than the bare minimum to survive isn't allowed, especially when it comes from charging others for a service.
av185 said:
Complete waste of money imo.
Just don't use on inappropriate roads or conditions e.g heavily salted.
Not sure I agree. My GT4 had front end PPF from new and it’s in stunning condition 6 years on. The rear arches and side intakes show some gravel rash.
Depends whether you care about stone chips or not OP but I’d highly recommend. Hope you are now enjoying the car
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