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YOUR RESEARCHP0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

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Disconnect mass air flow sensor

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When I disconnected the MAF and ran my Boxster, there was no difference in how it was running.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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Clean maf and the connector pins

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Did you try cleaning the maf and the connector pins?

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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Leading evidence: 'Disconnect mass air flow sensor' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Clean maf and the connector pins' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Disconnect their boxster runs really rough or not at all

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In doing the above, people mention that when the MAF is disconnected their Boxster runs really rough or not at all.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Run boxster, there was no difference in how it was

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When I disconnected the MAF and ran my Boxster, there was no difference in how it was running.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Run t

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Replaced it last night cleared the code, and ran t for a bit.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Clean maf and the connector pins

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Did you try cleaning the maf and the connector pins?

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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Clean maf and the connector pins

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Suggestion

Did you try cleaning the maf and the connector pins?

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Combined work: Disconnect mass air flow sensor + Disconnect their boxster runs really rough or not at all + Run boxster, there was no difference in how it was

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In doing the above, people mention that when the MAF is disconnected their Boxster runs really rough or not at all. When I disconnected the MAF and ran my Boxster, there was no difference in how it was running.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Disconnect mass air flow sensor

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

When I disconnected the MAF and ran my Boxster, there was no difference in how it was running.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Disconnect their boxster runs really rough or not at all

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

In doing the above, people mention that when the MAF is disconnected their Boxster runs really rough or not at all.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Replace maf, and everything seems

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quick update...replaced the MAF, and everything seems to be working fine now, if not better.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Replace maf, however a lot of the information

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There is a lot out there about P0102 mentioning to replace the MAF, however a lot of the information on the P0103 mentioned to reseat the connector, run the car without the MAF connected, etc.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Replace when you

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Suggestion

The ECU rely on the MAF usually because it's a more reliable way to manage an engine, but it's not the only way it can manage it, that's why you see no change when you disconnect it.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Run better

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Is this possible, or is it because it's just an amazingly fun car to drive and subconsciously I think it's running better?

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Run boxster, there was no difference in how it was

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When I disconnected the MAF and ran my Boxster, there was no difference in how it was running.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Run car without the maf connected, etc

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There is a lot out there about P0102 mentioning to replace the MAF, however a lot of the information on the P0103 mentioned to reseat the connector, run the car without the MAF connected, etc.

P0103 but not P0102, and interesting finding while troubleshooting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners
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The ECU rely on the MAF usually because it's a more reliable way to manage an engine, but it's not the only way it can manage it, that's why you see no change when you disconnect it.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi everyone, Over the last couple days I've been reviewing a number of forums and am having a tough time finding a lot of information on P0103 code. There is a lot out there about P0102 mentioning to replace the MAF, however a lot of the information on the P0103 mentioned to reseat the connector, run the car without the MAF connected, etc. In doing the above, people mention that when the MAF is disconnected their Boxster runs really rough or not at all. When I disconnected the MAF and ran my Boxster, there was no difference in how it was running. Is this normal? My question is, if my Boxster runs the same with our without the MAF connected is the problem the MAF, or something else? Thanks in advance...

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If your boxster runs the same without MAF it's dead (the MAF). The ECU rely on the MAF usually because it's a more reliable way to manage an engine, but it's not the only way it can manage it, that's why you see no change when you disconnect it. It's not relying on it anymore because it is not reading anything from it. Not like when you get P1128 and P1130 codes, which mean that the MAF, MAP and O2 sensors reading aren't what they should be.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks...ordering a new MAF now.

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Did you try cleaning the maf and the connector pins?

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I did what I could and they looked pretty clean. Replaced it last night cleared the code, and ran t for a bit. Check engine light has not come back on, but I haven't really taken it out for a good run, plan to do that this weekend. Thanks

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

quick update...replaced the MAF, and everything seems to be working fine now, if not better. The car seems more responsive. Is this possible, or is it because it's just an amazingly fun car to drive and subconsciously I think it's running better? :-)

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