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YOUR RESEARCHFirst Ride with the Top Down
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They acknowledge that there was a problem with the power on the early version and changed the design to correct it.
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It was -2 degrees F here this morning while I ran the snow blower.
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3) Is there a good recommended tire setup for the 20" and 22" respectively?
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My most recent experience with a 650 coupe (I went from the 20" msport wheels with runflats to those wheels without runflats) that I ended up putting lightweight 19" wheels and Pole position tires, that change made me keep the car.
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My most recent experience with a 650 coupe (I went from the 20" msport wheels with runflats to those wheels without runflats) that I ended up putting lightweight 19" wheels and Pole position tires, that change made me keep the car.
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Hey guys, just traded in my 2014 Subaru BRZ and picked up an '11 P4S and I'm really excited about picking it up next week! Been doing some research on the wheels and I noticed a lot of people are going with the 22" setups and I have a few questions that I hope some people will be able to help me out with (I tried to search it first but couldn't find much on it)!
1) How do 22" wheels affect the air suspension system? Does it affect it at all?
2) Is the ride noticeably bumpier/rougher vs a 20" setup?
3) Is there a good recommended tire setup for the 20" and 22" respectively? If I remember correctly, AWD cars have to take rolling diameter into consideration.
If I could get away with the 22" and still get a comfortable ride, have a working air suspension system (so that I could raise it over driveway entrances, speedbumps, etc)... I really do like the aggressive look of the 22" setup. I have a feeling I'll end up with a 20" setup though for practical reasons. FWIW, I live in Canada so this question is specifically towards a summer setup as I'll be running on smaller winter tires during the colder months.
Hi, I have a Panamera Turbo with 22s on it and have zero issues with my air ride. I drive in sports plus mode with the suspension all the way down 99% of the time. My setup is 265 30 22 fronts and 315 25 22's rear. Keep in mind if you go with 22's and decide on 315's for the rear (which is the best look) it will be limit you on tire choices.
BTW...I live in the suburbs outside the Detroit area and drove this past winter on the 22's with ZERO issues thru snow. This year I will probably buy a set of 20's for the winter and or a winter car....more so because I'm worried about other people hitting me then me hitting them.
Congrats on your new car!
There has been many threads about tire and wheel sizes, and I personally think you should do what you think works best (and in most cases looks best). I have been at the car mod thing a long (over 40 years) time and have lost count as to how many times I have pulled wheels and tires (I had three different sets of wheels and tires on the Gallardo I kept for two years) off all the cars I've owned. In the end I found that putting bigger wheels on a car always had a negative effect on its handling, though in the case of the Panamera I doubt most owners drive the car in a way that it would make that much of a difference since I also noticed the bigger and heavier the car was the less noticeable the change was. I am sure others here might even like the ride better and think it helps make it handle better. My most recent experience with a 650 coupe (I went from the 20" msport wheels with runflats to those wheels without runflats) that I ended up putting lightweight 19" wheels and Pole position tires, that change made me keep the car. I am a bit more picky about some aspects of a car than most people and mine is just an opinion. In the end you will be the judge of what works best for you. Congrats on your car enjoy it.
Welcome. Running 22s on my 4s when I had it and also on my turbo zero issues and run in sport or sport plus most of the tjme. Big wheel wells you will be glad u ran the 2s
How many times have you found yourself on a light and wished you could start moving and get the top in/out as well? Now, think about paying $300 for being able to, those few/many times. If worth the money for those few/or many times, then yes. If not.... not
No one spoke of the
air pressure
they were using: In my
pan 4
I reduced air pressure to
32 psi
all around on Pirelli 255 20's and 295 20's and I had a noticeable
better ride
(read somewhere on this forum that
32 psi is ok
as long as not going 160 mph). Ride was more like a luxury Jag/smooth. Here comes
winter in Canada
and I put on some 19 inch winters 255 and 285 Michelins at 33 and 35 psi (as -30 degrees here might reduce the pressure).
Ooo La La what a beautiful ride
compared to the 20 inch tires, even steering seemed
smoother
. In fact I seen a full set of 18 inchers and wonder what they would be like. Is the 20 inch scenario just a
mental thing.
What's your thoughts about a lower tire pressure being ok and the mental thing. EGL
I've had lots of high horsepower performance cars. 20's are the absolute largest I would go and that's mainly due to the disproportionate effect that larger, heavier sets have on handling. Unsprung mass is a thing and changing it will completely change the way the car does just about everything. If you're just going for looks and you don't care about anything else, go with whatever size floats your boat. If you're going for the best compromise between performance and looks, and yes - it's always a compromise - 20's are the upper-end of what should be considered. Going up an inch equates to an (average) 10#-20# increase in rotational mass depending on the wheel and tire, and that is per-corner.
I have the SmartTop and had the RemoteTop. The SmartTop is great. You can get in the car and lower/raise the top while you get started rather than waiting for the top to raise or lower, holding the button. And raise or lower it on the go.
The RemoteTop was also great, in someways even better as you can open the top while you are walking toward the car or park the car and close the top while you are walking away, really handy. Unfortunately I had one of the early version that went bad and they don't really warranty the early ones. They acknowledge that there was a problem with the power on the early version and changed the design to correct it. The did offer a discount of 25% off the new version but in my opinion, given that they acknowledged the design fault, the should have offered a replacement. IMHO.
But still great products.
Thanks everyone. It seems the SmartTop is worth it for those times you get stuck with a weather change, you can put the top up or down at a light with out worry of it changing.
How hard is it to install?
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You can do that without spending any money. Renntech has a DIY for this. You snip one wire and tape it off. That's it. I did it two years ago after getting stuck in crawling traffic and it started to rain. The best zero dollars I ever spent
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I don't think you need this mod for a 2003. I think you can raise and lower your top while moving as is. In any case, here is the link:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...-while-moving/
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Correct -- up to 25mph. The only feature this adds is one-touch operation. A lot to pay for that. You can still open the top before you get in with your key.
Yep, you are correct! Up to 30mph and it still goes up and down. Also LOVE the trick to put your finger in the hole on the dome light to get the back windows to go up (for my 6 year old in the back). Very cool. Thanks all!
I've have both (since 2005) and they work well with no issues. I don't recall the price because I think there was a "group deal" going on at the time.
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What? You didn't get the 911 with the Swedish wife in the passenger seat option like I did?? However, I think the Smart-top is MUCH easier on the wallet in the long run...
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