718 Spyder Allocation - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Assume there is absolutely no chance of one now? Been out of Porsche for the last couple of years and it's the only current model I like! If anyone knows of an allocation or slot available, please let me know!

leemanning said: Assume there is absolutely no chance of one now? Been out of Porsche for the last couple of years and it's the only current model I like! If anyone knows of an allocation or slot available, please let me know! I’d say it’s unlikely but you never know - certainly worth contacting dealers. I’ve bought a lot of cars from one OPC and they told me no chance. Another OPC rang me asking if I still had a car I’d bought from them 4-5 years ago (I didn’t) and I managed to get a 718 allocation out of the call so it can happen as can cancellations. You’ve got nothing to lose but some time while you chase it. Good luck.

There are cars out there but all are flipped and now edging over the 100k.

If you don’t ask you won’t get. I asked an OPC that I’d used before if there was any chance of a GT4, I got a very quick answer “no, but you can have a 718 spyder”

GRD_72 said: If you don’t ask you won’t get. I asked an OPC that I’d used before if there was any chance of a GT4, I got a very quick answer “no, but you can have a 718 spyder” Wow was he being ironic? 21 reg cars now trading at 110K so doubt any dealers has an unallocated car possible cancelled order but even those there is a long waiting list

No, deadly serious. But it was 9 months ago when market was not quite so buoyant. The car was pre spec’d and about to arrive in UK, a couple of weeks later it was listed as a demo on the OPC website - but not for long. Anyway, it was not for me but like I said, if you don’t ask……

GRD_72 said: No, deadly serious. But it was 9 months ago when market was not quite so buoyant. The car was pre spec’d and about to arrive in UK, a couple of weeks later it was listed as a demo on the OPC website - but not for long. Anyway, it was not for me but like I said, if you don’t ask…… And there's the crux - it was a cancelled order. Getting an allocation for a Spyder or GT4 where the spec is configurable to your preferences is a whole different kettle of fish.

Twinfan said: And there's the crux - it was a cancelled order. Getting an allocation for a Spyder or GT4 where the spec is configurable to your preferences is a whole different kettle of fish. Agreed. Two separate OPCs laughed at my request for a GT4 slot last month. But I was offered a pre-spec’d cancelled order. Collect it next month.

Twinfan said: And there's the crux - it was a cancelled order. The crux of it is that’s it’s definitely worth phoning around. It’s no less of a car just because it’s a cancelled order.

neilf said: Agreed. Two separate OPCs laughed at my request for a GT4 slot last month. But I was offered a pre-spec’d cancelled order. Collect it next month. That’s a result! Deposit paid last Oct and I’ve still had nothing confirmed so I’ll be lucky if I see it this side of the clocks changing. I’d gladly take a cancelled order on a reasonably spec’d car in gentian/GT silver or crayon.

Have I been told porkies then. I was told that cancelled orders are still reallocated by Central office at Reading who deal with all UK allocation regardless of where the original order came from

GRD_72 said: The crux of it is that’s it’s definitely worth phoning around. It’s no less of a car just because it’s a cancelled order. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if you want a car to your spec it's a lot more difficult then picking up a cancelled order.

cotswoldclio said: Have I been told porkies then. I was told that cancelled orders are still reallocated by Central office at Reading who deal with all UK allocation regardless of where the original order came from Porkies. Dealers control their allocations 100%.

Twinfan said: cotswoldclio said: Have I been told porkies then. I was told that cancelled orders are still reallocated by Central office at Reading who deal with all UK allocation regardless of where the original order came from Porkies. Dealers control their allocations 100%. Totally correct. The group gets the allocation and then distributes it amongst their various branches which is where the smoke and mirrors can come in, the car I’ve been promised by one OPC may be reassigned (for whatever reason ) to another OPC in the same group. Edited by GRD_72 on Saturday 19th June 10:03 Edited by GRD_72 on Saturday 19th June 10:04

cotswoldclio said: Have I been told porkies then. I was told that cancelled orders are still reallocated by Central office at Reading who deal with all UK allocation regardless of where the original order came from I still had to be ‘vetted’ by the DP before they would agree to sell me the cancelled order.

GRD_72 said: Twinfan said: cotswoldclio said: Have I been told porkies then. I was told that cancelled orders are still reallocated by Central office at Reading who deal with all UK allocation regardless of where the original order came from Porkies. Dealers control their allocations 100%. Totally correct. The group gets the allocation and then distributes it amongst their various branches which is where the smoke and mirrors can come in, the car I’ve been promised by one OPC may be reassigned (for whatever reason ) to another OPC in the same group. Edited by GRD_72 on Saturday 19th June 10:03 Edited by GRD_72 on Saturday 19th June 10:04 So a Dealership say Yaya's gets allocated their cars by head office (Reading) If Yaya's have a cancelled order it is up to them to reallocate the car? maybe to another branch but they don't have to tell head office (Reading, who then offer it to the network) which is what I think I am being told, in other words If Mr A cancels his order I can buy his place on the list, I am being told that does not happen, ie you cannot change the name on an order it all sounds a bit cloak and dagger to me. Edited by cotswoldclio on Saturday 19th June 14:05

You're being told complete bobbins I'm afraid, unless you're dealing with a Porsche owned OPC (e.g. Silverstone) and that's how they do it? My OPC is a franchise and my previous 981 GTS was a dealer order for stock, which prior to that was a customer's order until they switched it for a GT4 allocation. I took over the GTS build and reconfigured it to my spec. So the actual build order changed hands twice, all under the exclusive control of the dealership. GT cars are much more in demand so the dealer stock aspect isn't relevant, but the rest is. Franchises exclusively control who gets their allocated cars, Porsche GB give them a number of cars to sell and that's all they do. Ferraris are allocated centrally but not Porsches.

Twinfan said: You're being told complete bobbins I'm afraid, unless you're dealing with a Porsche owned OPC (e.g. Silverstone) and that's how they do it? My OPC is a franchise and my previous 981 GTS was a dealer order for stock, which prior to that was a customer's order until they switched it for a GT4 allocation. I took over the GTS build and reconfigured it to my spec. So the actual build order changed hands twice, all under the exclusive control of the dealership. GT cars are much more in demand so the dealer stock aspect isn't relevant, but the rest is. Franchises exclusively control who gets their allocated cars, Porsche GB give them a number of cars to sell and that's all they do. Ferraris are allocated centrally but not Porsches. So if Porsche GB give them the cars to sell surely its Porsche GB allocating the cars ie the cars are not allocated to the dealership from Germany.

cotswoldclio said: So if Porsche GB give them the cars to sell surely its Porsche GB allocating the cars ie the cars are not allocated to the dealership from Germany. Porsche GB negotiate with Porsche AG for a number of cars per quarter. Porsche AG supply those build slots for cars to Porsche GB, who in turn distribute them to the dealerships based on demand, previous sales figures etc etc. Once that is done, Porsche GB's job is complete unless there's an issue that has to be resolved e.g. delays, incorrect build when the car arrives etc. Once assigned to them, each Porsche dealership manages their build slots and Porsche AG do not care who the customer is or if it's a car built for dealership stock. They just build a car to fulfill an order. It's as simple as that. Edited by Twinfan on Monday 21st June 14:46

Isn't Guildford, Hatfield, West London, Mayfair and Reading all Porsche owned Dealers? In which case they may governed by Porsche Reading?

Maybe, we need to know which OPC(s) we're talking about I think. The Porsche owned ones may indeed work differently, my experience is with a franchise.

Twinfan said: Porsche GB negotiate with Porsche AG for a number of cars per quarter. Porsche AG supply those build slots for cars to Porsche GB, who in turn distribute them to the dealerships based on demand, previous sales figures etc etc. Once that is done, Porsche GB's job is complete unless there's an issue that has to be resolved e.g. delays, incorrect build when the car arrives etc. Once assigned to them, each Porsche dealership manages their build slots and Porsche AG do not care who the customer is or if it's a car built for dealership stock. They just build a car to fulfil an order. It's as simple as that. Edited by Twinfan on Monday 21st June 14:46 Lol So Reading allocate all UK cars. regardless of the playing with abacus etc etc the cars are distributed to the network by Reading (Porsche GB). After the allocation is made the dealership can do what they like with the cars . The point I was making was that Reading make the original allocation of cars so if your local dealership is not given a Spyder or a GT4 you can offer him anything you want and you still will not get a car. I think the only fact that I got wrong was cancelled orders, I was lead to believe by a dealership that probably had not been allocated any cars (Boxster25) that cancelled orders were re allocated also by Reading which is clearly rubbish.

Not sure I understood what your original point was, or what you wanted to know, but as long as you're happy now then all's good.

Tough not to be frustrated as a potential buyer when you see adverts like this: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11841787 Not even that nice a spec. The most annoying part is that it's an OPC, which as far as I'm concerned is Porsche itself endorsing this f ked up flipper practice. I happened to mention to my OH that the only car I actually wanted at the minute was a new 718 Spyder. She (and I nearly fell off the chair) initially said, "You should get what you really want". I explained there was no chance to which the reply was, "Could you not just get a used one?". I showed her this advert. Whilst I could just about stomach an £83k order, I am in no position at all to find an extra £27k - and even if I could, the very situation surrounding buying a 'GT' car new, just makes me want to puke.

PhantomPH said: Tough not to be frustrated as a potential buyer when you see adverts like this: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11841787 Not even that nice a spec. The most annoying part is that it's an OPC, which as far as I'm concerned is Porsche itself endorsing this f ked up flipper practice. I happened to mention to my OH that the only car I actually wanted at the minute was a new 718 Spyder. She (and I nearly fell off the chair) initially said, "You should get what you really want". I explained there was no chance to which the reply was, "Could you not just get a used one?". I showed her this advert. Whilst I could just about stomach an £83k order, I am in no position at all to find an extra £27k - and even if I could, the very situation surrounding buying a 'GT' car new, just makes me want to puke. Totally agree with this, I have had two Porsche gt3s, dealers love to take the money for servicing etc and love to buy them but won’t sell me a new one, porsche is a mad world now, they are not customer focused just out for what they can get. Why sell these to a customer new when they can drive them round the block and advertise them as used and up the price? Carl

C. Grimsley said: PhantomPH said: Tough not to be frustrated as a potential buyer when you see adverts like this: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11841787 Not even that nice a spec. The most annoying part is that it's an OPC, which as far as I'm concerned is Porsche itself endorsing this f ked up flipper practice. I happened to mention to my OH that the only car I actually wanted at the minute was a new 718 Spyder. She (and I nearly fell off the chair) initially said, "You should get what you really want". I explained there was no chance to which the reply was, "Could you not just get a used one?". I showed her this advert. Whilst I could just about stomach an £83k order, I am in no position at all to find an extra £27k - and even if I could, the very situation surrounding buying a 'GT' car new, just makes me want to puke. Totally agree with this, I have had two Porsche gt3s, dealers love to take the money for servicing etc and love to buy them but won’t sell me a new one, porsche is a mad world now, they are not customer focused just out for what they can get. Why sell these to a customer new when they can drive them round the block and advertise them as used and up the price? Carl It almost puts me off buying any other Porsche, if I was honest - although I will admit that I am just being a grump today, so you should take that with a pinch of salt.

Don't feel Porsche/OPC are to blame IMHO it's the txxxers who order every single new special because they can and have a fleet of same same cars, the flippers who order a car they don't really want and the mugs who pay extreme overs , the Porsche buyers market has become a sad place these days and it's the greed of what I would call the non Porsche enthusiasts! To spread the share more fairly, Porsche/OPC could permit only one special/GT per annum and let someone else have a fighting chance of an order , I mean look at the used Porsche site(manuals) it's dominated by used 718gt4!!!!!

GT4P said: Don't feel Porsche/OPC are to blame IMHO it's the txxxers who order every single new special because they can and have a fleet of same same cars, the flippers who order a car they don't really want and the mugs who pay extreme overs , the Porsche buyers market has become a sad place these days and it's the greed of what I would call the non Porsche enthusiasts! To spread the share more fairly, Porsche/OPC could permit only one special/GT per annum and let someone else have a fighting chance of an order , I mean look at the used Porsche site(manuals) it's dominated by used 718gt4!!!!! This weekend there seems to be a batch of October/ November 2020 GT4’s appearing on the Porsche approved site with low mileage Circa 500 miles Are these cars Porsche have been keeping to one side to put back on to the used market? I can’t imagine all these are owners who are selling or part ex cars with that low mileage all in the same week. Yet when you try and get an allocation you are told there are none available!! Edited by ClubsportStr on Monday 28th June 11:46

ClubsportStr said: This weekend there seems to be a batch of October/ November 2020 GT4’s appearing on the Porsche approved site with low mileage Circa 500 miles Are these cars Porsche have been keeping to one side to put back on to the used market? I can’t imagine all these are owners who are selling or part ex cars with that low mileage all in the same week. Yet when you try and get an allocation you are told there are none available!! Possibly cancelled orders that may have been used for demo purposes or brief company car stints. Different to new allocations though so will not affect that