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Can this be retrofitted? Obviously without the chronic clock Mine is the 2.7 pdk, std suspension What does the sport plus give you over the sport ?

It comes with Sport Chrono - clock, dynamic engine mounts with control module, faster PDK shifts etc. Not a simple retrofit I wouldn't think, which is why it's not a Tequipment option.

I think you missunderstand, just the sport plus button and reprogram

I don't misunderstand. On a 981 it's a complete package called Sport Chrono due to the dynamic engine mounts. It's different to a 987.2 where I believe you could add Sport Plus only via software as that's all it was.

Chono can be retro fitted, but you don't get the clock (which on 981's is the nicest fitment, and looks bare without imo).

mr pg said: Chono can be retro fitted, but you don't get the clock (which on 981's is the nicest fitment, and looks bare without imo). Are you sure you can on a 981? I know it was possible on a 987.2 but I've not heard it being done on a 981. Happy to be corrected though!

Maybe I should have sports plus can be added, but not so sure now after a bit of reading.

Sport and sport plus just adjust the throttle sensitivity and possibly the engine maps. If the car is PDK it will adjust the gearbox shift settings. If the car is PASM it will firm up the dampers. Ships from the factory with the adjustable engine mounts but if these fail they are around £1000 to replace so some people use a standard mount as replacement. Therefore the car will obviously work without the dynamic engine mount.

ATM said: so some people use a standard mount as replacement. Therefore the car will obviously work without the dynamic engine mount. Have you got any actual definite evidence for this (genuine question), as I’ve heard it suggested a couple of times but never actually seen anyone that has definitely done it. When I had my second drivechain mount replaced I asked the OPC tech if a none active mount could be fitted. You would have thought I’d asked to sleep with his daughter!

ATM said: Ships from the factory with the adjustable engine mounts but if these fail they are around £1000 to replace so some people use a standard mount as replacement. Therefore the car will obviously work without the dynamic engine mount. Yes it can, but it would need coding out via the ECU via someone who knows how to re-map 981s....

Green1man said: ATM said: so some people use a standard mount as replacement. Therefore the car will obviously work without the dynamic engine mount. Have you got any actual definite evidence for this (genuine question), as I’ve heard it suggested a couple of times but never actually seen anyone that has definitely done it. When I had my second drivechain mount replaced I asked the OPC tech if a none active mount could be fitted. You would have thought I’d asked to sleep with his daughter! They think n rated tyres are the holy grail. Not the sort of person to be taking advice from.

Twinfan said: mr pg said: Chono can be retro fitted, but you don't get the clock (which on 981's is the nicest fitment, and looks bare without imo). Are you sure you can on a 981? I know it was possible on a 987.2 but I've not heard it being done on a 981. Happy to be corrected though! No Tequipment option for SPORT mode on 981; in either base or S models. As others mention, it is a far more extensive option compared to earlier cars - with different hardware and VIN specific wiring that just aren't practical to retrofit. Only options over standard (DME/engine related) are: Sports Exhaust (XLF) and Cruise Control (454).

Pope said: No Tequipment option for SPORT mode on 981; in either base or S models. As others mention, it is a far more extensive option compared to earlier cars - with different hardware and VIN specific wiring that just aren't practical to retrofit. Only options over standard (DME/engine related) are: Sports Exhaust (XLF) and Cruise Control (454). As I thought - many thanks for the confirmation

I'd guess something like a cobbsport can adjust the throttle maps and shift speed to achieve sport plus like effects on a car without sport chrono.

A big part of the SPORT/SPORT PLUS mode option is the calibration of the PSM as it gradually allows greater slip angles before intervention. Launch Control on PDK cars is also worth mentioning.

Pope said: A big part of the SPORT/SPORT PLUS mode option is the calibration of the PSM as it gradually allows greater slip angles before intervention. True I forgot about this. Again though as it's all software related so I'm sure some form of plug in device or chip tuning could program this in on a car without the factory option.

Had Sport Chrono on my 2.7 981 Boxster, not worth worrying about and very rarely used it. My car was a PDK car with PASM and PSE As said previously Sport Chrono quickened the gear change dramatically (uncomfortably so with the engine mounts?), changed the throttle map, switched the PSE on, and stiffened the suspension to the hardest setting. Oh and the clock is pretty pointless too..... I thought Sport Plus was far too severe to use on the road and out of character with the 2.7 engine and car in general. Never bothered with launch control on any car, it's just a gimmick. Always used the car in Sport which was a great compromise. Engine mount failure was also a worry for me especially as I was planning to run the car without the restrictions that a Porsche warranty placed on the car. Long gone and not missed.

Echo the above, S+ is really a track mode, sport is all you need on the road, unless you want a track map for the pdk. And the dynamic engine mounts seem to have a design fault judging by all the failures reported on here..

Thanks guys for all your thoughts Sport+ maggots out my head now

If you have pdk then sport+ is constantly at maximum revs in every gear all the time. Think of it as crack head in a rental car. Could be useful in manual mode where you control the shifts and therefore you basically just get the looser PSM giving you more show boaty slip angles.

I used the gearbox in manual mode nearly all the time, even on the motorway, and in Sport + the crack of the gearshifts up and down, and the harshness of the suspension was just too much for the road the majority of the time...in the end I must have used Sport + two or three times in two years of ownership, whereas the car was in Sport mode pretty much all of the time.

As above -- rarely use Sport+ but am always in Sport and always in manual mode when not in gridlock. Used Sport+ on the Tale of the Dragon in North Carolina -- great for 'racing' situations -- otherwise, not so much.