2007 997 C2S Cab - Purchasing advice - Page 2 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

First thing I would check would be why the roof was cut off a perfectly good sports car thereby rendering it more wobbly and heavier than the original. Might want to ensure that no coiffuring apparel has been left in the boot as well.

The 997 chassis was designed & developed to be a convertible so the convertible is pretty stiff unless you're one of these Pistonheads 'driving god tossers', and unless you drive like Mr P Nesshead on public roads, you won't notice the difference in handling. And 0.1s slower to 60mph, yes massive difference.

jakesmith said: The 997 chassis was designed & developed to be a convertible so the convertible is pretty stiff unless you're one of these Pistonheads 'driving god tossers', and unless you drive like Mr P Nesshead on public roads, you won't notice the difference in handling. And 0.1s slower to 60mph, yes massive difference. That'll be you told, stuttgart!

I'm not a bad driver, IMHO, but probably don't qualify as an actual deity. I just don't like performance cars whose performance is compromised for the sake of (dubious) image. And, whether you are able to notice it or not, the cab IS heavier and less capable than the coupe. And, yes I do drive in a spirited fashion at times - that's why I have a couple of quick cars, not to impress people with my wealth and excellent taste.

Maybe some people like convertible sports cars, and don't like cars that have the enjoyment of open top motoring compromised for the sake of a pretty imperceptible improvement in performance. The roads I drive on are so busy / slow that I derive more pleasure from driving with the roof down, hearing the PSE and feeling the sun / wind on my head, than I would by a 0.1% improvement in cornering.

To be fair, it did originally sound this was a purchase with status in mind! A 997T is not a like-for-like with a 997 Carrera cab. Away from the driver involvement and performance argument, i think the roofline is a key part of the 911 design. I would never want to lose that; proportionally the cabs look like they have a giant arse.

One man's giant ass is another man's sexy lady bumps

Looks like a few feathers as well as hairstyles have been ruffled by what was meant to be a fairly humorous observation on my part. I don't have a problem with all roofless cars - I have an Elise and NEVER drive it with the roof on. I like 911s (I'm on my 3rd) but not the topless versions. I'm sure Porsche AG are delighted that we all have differing priorities when it comes to buying their products and will continue to cater for all tastes. Can't be long now before we see a Panamera cab. Now that would be a looker!

OP, probably in the £28k range, however I have not had great experiences buying older, low milage cars, they like to be used hard (once warm), and you're also buying into a risky engine. How about looking at something either newer, like a gen 2, or, if you know you're going to change fairly soon, what about a 996TT which seem to be going up in value at the moment

Looking at buying a 997 C2S as funds won't currently stretch to a 997 turbo. Found a 2007 black 997 C2S cab, 2 owners from new, FPSH, 23,000miles at a dealer. Dealer is offering 1 years warranty with the car. Haven't yet viewed the car but been informed that it is in excellent condition. What should I pay for the car? Don't want to suffer too much depreciation as looking at keeping her for around 2 years until Ive got sufficient funds for a 997 turbo or Nissan GTR. Currently have a 2005 BMW M3 which I'm reluctant to sell as I love the car. Also what do I need to look out for prior to purchase? Many thanks Edited by D16RR_Rich on Sunday 29th March 21:38

Thanks for the replies guys. I've now reviewed my finances and may increase my budget to £50k for a 997.1 manual turbo. I'm looking for a low mileage example around 20,000 miles ish There seems to be a few cabs about but very few low mileage coupes. Not driven a 997 turbo cab yet, however would yoy guys recommend a coupe over a cab with regards to driving pleasure and residuals? Thanks

The Turbos are appreciating at the moment and the Turbo cab is rare so I wouldn't worry about that. In terms of driving, the Turbo has extreme power that would destroy most things on the road but poor soundtrack. I wouldn't worry about the handling difference between the cab & coupe but probably enough said on that.

D16RR_Rich said: Thanks for the replies guys. I've now reviewed my finances and may increase my budget to £50k for a 997.1 manual turbo. I'm looking for a low mileage example around 20,000 miles ish There seems to be a few cabs about but very few low mileage coupes. Not driven a 997 turbo cab yet, however would yoy guys recommend a coupe over a cab with regards to driving pleasure and residuals? Thanks @£50k I would be seriously looking in the direction of a GTS

jakesmith said: The 997 chassis was designed & developed to be a convertible so the convertible is pretty stiff unless you're one of these Pistonheads 'driving god tossers', and unless you drive like Mr P Nesshead on public roads, you won't notice the difference in handling. And 0.1s slower to 60mph, yes massive difference. The 997 chassis was designed to be a convertible? I have never heard or read that fact before? What do you exactly mean by it?

mollytherocker said: The 997 chassis was designed to be a convertible? I have never heard or read that fact before? What do you exactly mean by it? I think the reality is more - "the 911 was designed with the fact a convertible model would be produced and hence consideration to it's rigidity was taken into account at the outset" That said, a convertible is always going to be more wobbly than the hard top equivalent.

mollytherocker said: The 997 chassis was designed to be a convertible? I have never heard or read that fact before? What do you exactly mean by it? Wikipedia says: For the first time, development of the cabriolet version of the 997 led the design and engineering effort at Porsche with the coupé following. Porsche applied the logic that if you started with the more difficult cabriolet challenges (for chassis stiffness) the coupé version would simply be more rigid

jakesmith said: mollytherocker said: The 997 chassis was designed to be a convertible? I have never heard or read that fact before? What do you exactly mean by it? Wikipedia says: For the first time, development of the cabriolet version of the 997 led the design and engineering effort at Porsche with the coupé following. Porsche applied the logic that if you started with the more difficult cabriolet challenges (for chassis stiffness) the coupé version would simply be more rigid Wikipedia, the font of all accurate knowledge.

mollytherocker said: jakesmith said: mollytherocker said: The 997 chassis was designed to be a convertible? I have never heard or read that fact before? What do you exactly mean by it? Wikipedia says: For the first time, development of the cabriolet version of the 997 led the design and engineering effort at Porsche with the coupé following. Porsche applied the logic that if you started with the more difficult cabriolet challenges (for chassis stiffness) the coupé version would simply be more rigid Wikipedia, the font of all accurate knowledge. Supported by the Porsche 911: 50 Years book by Randy Leffingwell (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Porsche-911-Years-Randy-Leffingwell/dp/0760344019/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427836202&sr=8-1&keywords=911+randy) where it quotes August Achleitner although it's a little ambiguous as to whether the Cabrio was first or whether both cars were developed in parallel. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wSCDAAAAQBAJ&a... Also quotes August in Porsche: A History of Excellence: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WQru-IIYfN0C&a...

mollytherocker said: Wikipedia, the font of all accurate knowledge. Which was paraphrasing the Porsche directer of production line management

D16RR_Rich said: Thanks for the replies guys. I've now reviewed my finances and may increase my budget to £50k for a 997.1 manual turbo. I'm looking for a low mileage example around 20,000 miles ish There seems to be a few cabs about but very few low mileage coupes. Not driven a 997 turbo cab yet, however would yoy guys recommend a coupe over a cab with regards to driving pleasure and residuals? Thanks Great choice and the same one I made a year ago, my preference was for a Mezger manual coupe (I couldn't justify the spend on a PDK gen 2) which coincidentally I think will be the most sought after spec over cabs and tips

Missed out on buying a 2009 59plate 997.1 turbo coupe in Black last week for £54k. The car was bought the follow ohm morning by a trader who is now advertising for £60k. Gutter I missed out on the car http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...