Tiptronics all the same?

Hi Are the internals/power handling capacity the same with all 996 Tiptronic transmissions...Carrera vs TT ( ignoring 4wd of TT)> Thanks Peter

Who do ya like??? I am ready to buy but am confused what to get??? I really want a new W212 Blk/Blk E63 dropped on 20's... but I know I will miss my 997 soo much which will be my 3rd carrera purchase if I get the new TT PDK, such a hard choice this round, I know the handles in the Benz. might be a fatal decision. and I might regret, what's one to do??? Any words of wisdom before I pull the trigger 6erz

TT romps on the AMG in all departments, 997.1 included. E63 is a great car. TT is better unless you need the 4 doors.

hmm...manual vs AT...all-around performance vs straight-line power...true sports car vs a souped-up family sedan....no question the TT gets my vote anyday/anytime.

tt hands down unless u have kids and the TT is your only car

I would become bored in an AMG Benz inside of one week , Then try and sell it and it depreciates like a falling rock . Everytone is different and that Turbo will cost more but I would buy the Porsche without question.

e63 is fantastic car. but... imho you will miss the character of Porsche. Ill get TT and wont look back

997.2 TT PDK all the way.. Good luck with your choice!

Totally 2 different shape of cars...Hard to compare really. In any sort of race,997tt will eat the E63 for breakfast.. When you have 4 friends/chicks to go with you..E63 will be your loyal service man So...GET BOTH!!

Msrp of the PDK TT might be higher than the E63 but I think they will lease pretty close as Porsche is really dealing hard nowadays, 0 to 60 times on the E63 are posted at 4.4 sec. but I have heard that it is much quicker than what Mercedes is claiming. Very hard choice still pondering, but you guys are making the choice easier with every comment...thx

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Quote: Its a saloon car..Whatever it performing, it still not even gonne close to the 997tt's power/weight level.Wait for the 997tt.2 arrive and test drive both in a same day you ll see.

This is a porsche prejudice forum, and it shows. Im sure you will get different results if posted on the amg forum. Both are great but different cars. The bottom line is what would suite you best. I myself am getting ready for the switch to a more conservitive family oriented car yet powerful car. I guess my taste in cars is starting to change with my age (Ouch)

Performance wise the TT wins, if you need the extra room the E63 is a fine choice. You have to make the purchase based on your needs. I would definetly not want a TT if I had to always drive more than one person around for work or family reasons.

Very short list of cars Id take over a TT Porsche. E63 aint one of em. Were it the big dog SL65 AMG Black series then and only then would I say Benz. TT Porsche all the way from these two choices.

I own an E63, and though I love it, I'd trade it straight-up for a 997 TT w/o even thinking. Cash kept me from my 997 TT, so I "settled" for the E63. Love it, but my heart yearns for a 997 TT (or Ferrari 430 he he).

No doubt the Benz is a great car, but the TT is on another level. I'd take the Porsche everyday.

I agree test drive both, the answer will be very clear as mud

check what this guy had to say after owning an e63 and stepping in a 997tt https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/2514722-post1.html

lease the benz and buy TT.. i had e55 few years ago and still best 4 door car i ever had.. my oldies: 08 cayenne turbo, 04 E55 and current four door alpina b7

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Quote: My words of wisdom are to not buy the E63 new. AMGs have some of the (if not the) highest depreciation values. So, keep your 997 until you can get a used E63 if that's the car you really want. If you have enough $ where the depreciation hit does not matter to you, then you have enough $ to get both cars -- which is what I'd then recommend you do. I have a 2010 E63 on order to replace my C63 --can't wait!!

(if) Mercedes brings the Supercharger back to the E63 in a year or so, the mighty TT could have a hard run with the merc.??? E63 Black-2follow soon with moded suspension + light weight & a couple extra pony's. I still am leaning towards the P-CAR but am going to wait to see the E in thaflesh...soon. TTough one! ^^^ Taylorcoleman - I only lease. So I don't care about re-sale much, besides msrp's not that far apart anyway...

Ah, lease, OK. That makes it easy--no E63. The AMG lease rates are horrific. Base rates are rarely less than 9% and have held steady at about 9.47% for the past year. Non MBFS lease rates are a little better, but still astronomical. And considering lease payments are largely derived from depreciation (i.e. re-sale), that's an extra whammy. I don't recommend buying or leasing a brand new AMG (though I'm guilty of that). The E63 will be hot. You'll probably love it. I think the honeymoon period with a new E63 will be much shorter than with the TT. Whenever I'm thinking about putting my TT out to pasture, some event surfaces that makes me adore it again. That could be an exceptional ride through the twisties -- tunes being just audible over the engine roar. Or the other week when a 10-year-old kid was in awe of my car while I was filling it with gas. Certainly the latter would not be possible with the E63. So I change my recommendation. Get whatever car (either one), but take...your...time...in...making...a...decision. Best of success--and have fun!

Funny, my 63 lease is up and I am looking at a 997TT. The E63 is a fabulous car, the 2010 is supposed to have much, much improved handling and steering. So much so that you would think it is a completely different platform. Also the tranny is getting high praise. Remember you are still comparing a 2 door sports car to a 4 door sedan, albeit a super fast one. Not really apples to apples, that being said you already had several 911's, why not a change. Life is short, drive as many different, fast cars as possible!!

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Quote: You keeping that red rocket right?

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Quote: Good luck if you change your mind early in an MB lease . I have never seen leasing hold a person to a contract so firm like Mercedes (even if they lose money) . But to compare an AMG to a Turbo --not only are the cars so different , but it almost insults the Turbo . In fact if there was anything that I didn't like about the Turbo in its stock form was that it had some hints of AMG Benz charcteristics. The squishy stock suspension, soft exhaust note, power assist clutch, and lack of connectivity with AWD were negatives . In fact the clutch almost had me avoid the car . The flaws of the Turbo are the strengths of the AMG. It's a car which appeals to a driver who strikes me as one who is less into driving and more into luxury . I took those luxuries out of my Turbo inside of 200 miles and produced a car that was on the cutting edge early on . I upgaded it . over and over .. and now it rests .. not because more can't be done .. but because I am having a fling with my PDK car . I don't like a soft car . I may be middle aged but I refuse to become boring and that's what an AMG Benz represents to me . Boredom . It represents going to a job that you want to leave , eating dinners you don't want , and lacking the capricious freedom in your life to really enjoy it they way you once did when you were a kid . It's driving stagnation and at 100+K the pricetag almost makes it a toxic expense. Maybe we are different. If so you may end up with an AMG.

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Quote: Fling, with your PDK car?? Is the PDK THAT good that I should consider a 385hp PDK carrera 'S' over a 480hp '08 turbo for my daily driver??

i have them both and the 997 its ten times better all around the only good thing about the e63 is 4 doors and my wife can drive it

if u really need 4 proper seats take the E63. if u don`t, OF COURSE THE TT!!!! not a fecking single doubt! The E63 is a snail compared to a TT.

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Quote: Exagerating a bit, are we...I have run a best 12.1 @117 ET in stock form with the 63 and consistant 12.1-12.2's..what do TT run.. consistantly!

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Quote: Yes E63 is a fast saloon for sure. but 1/4 miles not showing every performance figure.A proper launched tiptronic 997TT.1 can do approx 11.6-11.7 @ 119-120. Also if you run 60-130mph between E63 and 997tt you can call e63 a snail.. The thread asking new 2010 E63 vs 2010 997tt.2 PDK.You can't really give the comparetion between old E63 vs 997tt.1...We never drive the 997tt.2 yet so you never know,but it sounds much faster..Try to run a 997 C2S.2 PDK with your E63 to 140mph,I even doubt if you could easily walk through that.

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Quote: Didn't realize the 997.2 refers to the 2010 model. E63 doesn't claim to be a performance machine, more like a 1/4 mile queen. That being said I haven't come across many stock machines running consistant 12 sec 1/4 miles. Being 20 minutes from e-town I practically live there. You say a 'properly lauched' 997TT is capable of 11.6-.7....might be true, but I am looking for real world numbers and my experience at the track tells otherwise. The new PDK might challenge the 63 (I am in fact looking at one now) but any other 911 carrera is simply no match for the E63 in a straight line. Talking stock machines. Modified autos are different.