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most owners just drive the car up
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To solve the lack of jack clearance before lifting the car, I suspect most owners just drive the car up on 4 planks - about an inch or so high, about 2 or so feet long with a bevel on one end.
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I think the USA may have lower hydraulic jacks than we do or use smaller section high tensile bars.
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Why not just drive onto a block of 35-40mm wood and use a standard trolley jack?
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To solve the lack of jack clearance before lifting the car, I suspect most owners just drive the car up on 4 planks - about an inch or so high, about 2 or so feet long with a bevel on one end.
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Hi everyone.
Just wondering if anyone has ever purchased Liftbars (
http://liftbars.com
)? They don't appear to ship outside the US.
I've been lifting my 987 Cayman in stages from side to side for a few years now but it requires the car to tip on the diagonal. I really like the idea of being able lift each side in one even/square lift.
If you've had any experiences using these or something similar I'd greatly appreciate hearing about it.
Thanks
I went through this conundrum 3 or 4 years ago.
The delivery costs of the assembled / welded liftbars was astronomical from the USA, so I got the manufacturer to send me just the 4 x end sections without the bars. I bough 4m of 50mm square section bar had them welded up here in Qld. by an engineering company, so they looked like the photo above.
But, even using an 89mm low lift aluminium trolley jack, I couldn't get the jack head underneath the bar when it was in position under the cars chassis. The only way was to re-engineer the bars with smaller high tensile square section steel (to stop it bending) which pushed the cost even higher - so I gave up....
You can jack the car again and fit blocks of wood under the wheels, but you are wasting even more time.
I think the USA may have lower hydraulic jacks than we do or use smaller section high tensile bars.
To solve the lack of jack clearance before lifting the car, I suspect most owners just drive the car up on 4 planks - about an inch or so high, about 2 or so feet long with a bevel on one end.
Thanks for sharing your experience Stephen.
I've got a friend who's a professional fabricator in his job. I was talking with him about making me a set. It looks like you've already done the hard work and found it's not really feasible or practical. I was wondering if the low height might be a problem too.
Have you managed to come up with an alternative way to lift your car? I've been considering a hoist for ages but don't really want to commit that much floor space in the grudge.
I have a hoist now so no longer necessary, but I used to use 2 low lift trolley jacks and jack stands, these cars aren`t very big so going from one side to the other keeping the lifting even is quicker than pissing about trying to reinvent the wheel
The ramps are pretty widely available, my only suggestion is that you get some from repco / auto barn etc that are built to the Australian standard. eBay etc is full of ramps that are not.
i have been looking at the rennline jack point for a 987.2, about $90 usd that allows you to jack both sides simultaneously and reduce some of the lift risk. There are lot of posts on the redline product and if it is good / bad, after much reading I reackon they are a good idea and are not going to “break” your cayman / Boxster.
So for a full lift, drive front end up onto the ramps, then jack the rear off the central renline lift point and if you are safety conscious place axle stands under the 2 rear jack points so the car can not tip / fall / slew off the jack.
I have some rubber ramps already so I was thinking to get the car onto the ramps, jack it from the rear suspension mounting point with a rubber puck on the top of a low profile long reach jack and then lower it onto the rear jack points.
Obviously for front brake/wheel jobs I'd need to jack up the front but I'm ok with that.
Is this a bad idea?
This is the suspension mounting point I'm talking about:
That's what I have been doing to get the rear of my Cayman off the deck Rego. Exactly as described by pelican parts. I just get nervous when you do the front first one side at a time. I''ll get some ramps for the front to make basic maintenance easier.
I like the idea of the centre jack point Spyder. I'll look into that one now.
Thanks for the thought, advice and experiences every one.
Sir,
There are a heap of them available on EBay and in car shops, I got these ones because my car is stupidly low with sideskirts and these are about all that I can get under the car:
https://www.repco.com.au/en/tools-equipment/garage-tools-equipment/axle-stands-ramps/aeroflow-low-profile-car-ramp-set-af98-2109/p/A5516567
However, if I had a little bit more ground clearance I would get slightly higher ones like this as it would give you a bot more room under car
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-BUT-LIGHT-Car-Ramps-2-5-Tonne-900mm-x-210mm-x-300mm/163147616293?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130048%26meid%3D6b270c49de7b4b318bcb1586ac00e16d%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D11%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D362384850529%26itm%3D163147616293%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bDemotion%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
I was just reading elsewhere about these lift bars as I too find it a bit of a rigmarole to jack up they Cayman.
Found a few other ideas on this page for those into DIY so thought I'd add to the thread here. Seems reasonably straight forward.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/1067312-porken-lift-bars.html
Same issue with my GT3. The low ones clear the front bumper and allow you to raise the front of the car just enough to get to the front bumper cover attachment points etc. I have a good low profile jack which will just fit under the car even without the ramps.
https://www.totaltools.com.au/97060-bahco-2000kg-trolley-jack-bh1aoz2000a
Tried to do that Lee, but the car just pushed the wood along the (polished) concrete floor in my garage when I tried to drive up. The black one shown before have a non-slip rubber on the bottom of them, and they grip well on the polished concrete. Wooden planks would most likely work perfectly well on a different floor surface.
