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Never seen this before - a C4S replica!

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YOUR RESEARCHNever seen this before - a C4S replica!

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Check shows it as a 3.4

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Tax check shows it as a 3.4 on DVLA website.

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Check shows it registered in december 1999 :?

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Although MOT check shows it registered in December 1999 :?:

Never seen this before - a C4S replica!

Replace bumpers and front wings is one thing

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I agree, just changing the bumpers and front wings is one thing, but changing the rear wings to convert it to a wide body is quite another...

Never seen this before - a C4S replica!

Replace rear wings

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I agree, just changing the bumpers and front wings is one thing, but changing the rear wings to convert it to a wide body is quite another...

Never seen this before - a C4S replica!

Run forest

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Run forest run!!

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Check shows it as a 3.4

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Tax check shows it as a 3.4 on DVLA website.

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Check shows it registered in december 1999 :?

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Although MOT check shows it registered in December 1999 :?:

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Replace bumpers and front wings is one thing

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Suggestion · Original poster

I agree, just changing the bumpers and front wings is one thing, but changing the rear wings to convert it to a wide body is quite another...

Never seen this before - a C4S replica!

Replace rear wings

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Suggestion · Original poster

I agree, just changing the bumpers and front wings is one thing, but changing the rear wings to convert it to a wide body is quite another...

Never seen this before - a C4S replica!

Run forest

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Run forest run!!

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Car is a 1999 3.4, but according to the DVLA it was first registered in September 2001, which is odd. Must have taken some work to convert into a wide body: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Porsche-911-2dr-/282851811313?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

POST 2Original post

Not sure why you would go to that effort and cost....it would've cost more to do that than upgrade to a genuine 4S! To me that's got ringer written all over it. Something doesn't stack up.

POST 3Original post

That's because it was 1st registered in another country and then imported and re-registered in the UK in 2001. Cracks me up when dealers put "All cars HPI'd" but then fail to mention any HPI history. :nooo: Sometimes folk have a prang and the car needs front & rear bumpers, new bonnet and front wings. For minimum amount more they can convert to a more desirable looking model. Like you say - ringer all over it, especially when you realise it was possibly done in another country, then registered as a different car in the UK. Run forest run!!

POST 4Original post

Where are you seeing it's a 3.4 :?: It just looks like a very ordinary early 996C4S to me. The 'T plate' in the advert obviously isn't the original one if it was registered in 2001. If I was buying my biggest concern would be the fact that it wasn't MOT'd for 4 years 2013 to 2017 although that might be explained if it wasn't wearing that number during that period.

POST 5Original post

Tax check shows it as a 3.4 on DVLA website. Although MOT check shows it registered in December 1999 :?: It's a 3.4 though - you can tell by the clocks on the dash.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I agree, just changing the bumpers and front wings is one thing, but changing the rear wings to convert it to a wide body is quite another...

POST 7Original post

:thumb: Looks like the 4S bodywork was probably added in the time it wasn't MOT'd - sometime between 2013 and 2017. I can't believe a dealer hasn't picked up on all this before advertising it.

POST 8Original post

A few years ago I nearly bought a 993 that had been rebodied as a widebody. That'd been in a slight mishap requiring lots of new panels so the owner had converted it. It was black and looked great but I wasn't brave enough in the end. £12k it was! This car reminds me of that.

POST 9Original post

That (and my v5) says mine is a 3.6; but it isn't. Dunno how that happened

POST 10Original post

Lots of conclusions being jumped to..... Doubt it's a ringer with 3.4 clocks and engine. surely it's too difficult and no real gain to reshell a 3.4 into a c4s shell, you would have to swap loads. If it were a ringer surely it would be a c4s 3.6 big brakes with the chassis numbers swapped..... I'd guess it's had accident damage and it's been fixed up with c4s quarter panels and wings.

POST 11Original post

+1 Although I'd still be a bit dubious. I'd want to know when and where it was done, etc.

POST 12Original post

I notice that the advert was updated yesterday. I think the 'Carrera 4 with 4S wide body' bit has been added. It's still listed as a 2001 car though. :nooo: The asking price for a 1999 bitza = :floor:

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