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YOUR RESEARCHYet another 3.0 Engine Rebuild

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Replace though

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It looked like a couple had been replaced though..

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Check cam timing, valve clearances

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So today I spent a long time double checking cam timing, valve clearances, then fitting valve covers etc..

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Leading evidence: 'Replace though' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'extra duration of the camshafts' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check cam timing, valve clearances' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Use during assembly last time around

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

The silicone was used during assembly last time around.

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extra duration of the camshafts

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Definately has a deeper growl to it which I believe is due to the extra duration of the camshafts.

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Check cam timing, valve clearances

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Suggestion · Original poster

So today I spent a long time double checking cam timing, valve clearances, then fitting valve covers etc..

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Replace couple studs (only the broken ones)

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I'm guessing that a previous owner might have had some bandaid work done to replace a couple studs (only the broken ones).

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Check cam timing, valve clearances

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Suggestion · Original poster

So today I spent a long time double checking cam timing, valve clearances, then fitting valve covers etc..

Yet another 3.0 Engine Rebuild

Replace couple studs (only the broken ones)

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Suggestion · Original poster

I'm guessing that a previous owner might have had some bandaid work done to replace a couple studs (only the broken ones).

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Replace stock 8.5:1 pistons

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Suggestion · Original poster

We are replacing the stock 8.5:1 pistons for 9.8:1 and also upgrading camshafts with a custom grind sourced through William Knight in the USA, who has designed these and has them manufactured by Webcamshafts.com.

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Replace though

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

It looked like a couple had been replaced though..

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Run without them

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Suggestion · Original poster

but it won't run without them!

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Set cam timing

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Suggestion · Original poster

Time to set cam timing!

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Use cis

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Suggestion · Original poster

It will be interesting to see how this motor performs, as the cam is "more" than a 964 or 20/21 that is commonly used, but the claim is that it will outperform them, even using the CIS.

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The silicone was used during assembly last time around.

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Use silicone

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Suggestion

did someone use silicone to plug leaks?

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extra duration of the camshafts

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Suspected cause · Original poster

Definately has a deeper growl to it which I believe is due to the extra duration of the camshafts.

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Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thought I'd post a few pics of an engine I am currently refreshing... not sure if many are interested in this stuff... ?? Pics will basically form a timeline.. Had a few delays waiting for parts but we are on the final stretch now. Engine ran well, but was leaking a fair amount of oil. We are replacing the stock 8.5:1 pistons for 9.8:1 and also upgrading camshafts with a custom grind sourced through William Knight in the USA, who has designed these and has them manufactured by Webcamshafts.com. It will be interesting to see how this motor performs, as the cam is "more" than a 964 or 20/21 that is commonly used, but the claim is that it will outperform them, even using the CIS. Time will tell. Check out the before pics...! yummy!! See how far the plunger in the chain tensioner is extended?

POST 2Original post

Very interested keep the photos & info coming...

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thanks for the interest! Some interesting efforts to curb the rocker shafts from leaking... see the "home made rsr seals"????!! Someone made this spacer for the chain tensioner upgrade.. I guess it worked... just a tad grimy in there...

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None. It looked like a couple had been replaced though.. I'm guessing that a previous owner might have had some bandaid work done to replace a couple studs (only the broken ones). The top end had been off before, but I don't think the case had been apart before. They marked the cylinder positions incorrectly too.. The silicone was used during assembly last time around. Is it wrong?? Well, it is not something I would do.

POST 7Original post

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I think you will find most PFA members are interested in what you are posting.  I've watched several of your original time lapse threads and enjoyed seeing how things come apart and go back together.  If I needed an engine rebuild and you were down our way I'd be dropping in for a coffee and a chat, keep up the good work and options for our local Porsche lovers!

POST 8Original post

Mike! Post`em all! Not sure about the rest, but I`m finding it very useful and interesting!

POST 9Original post

Very interesting seeing some of the 'fixes' people have done on these engines over the years.

POST 10Original post

What’s the engine type?  Big port or small port?  Interested to know how lively it is after higher compression and cams.

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Cannot remember the engine type, but it is a big port From this TO this New Headstuds installed Upgrade to 9.8:1 CIS pistons... Cylinders recoated to suit. Time to set cam timing! Bah.. I didn't take any photos of the cam timing process.. it's pretty boring and there are tonnes of cool videos on youtube showing how. but, it is done. Here is something interesting to examine... notice how far the chain tensioner is extended in this pre-disassembly photo... And then compare to how far it is extended in the bottom, new chain photo.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So today I spent a long time double checking cam timing, valve clearances, then fitting valve covers etc.. And those bloody SSi's.. I hate them! What a pain to have to refit them (I now remember the joys of taking them off!!) At least now they are clean. If you scroll up, you can see the state they were in with so much crud baking on them. Hoping these will last a little longer this time around

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Starting to finish this.. I don't really want to add all the CIS parts back to it.. but it won't run without them! What do you think of the black and gold ?

POST 15Original post

Looks awesome Mike, how did you get the case so clean.

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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cheers, the case was ultrasonically cleaned.. and then copious amounts of elbow grease and brake cleaner..

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POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So while this one is done, I feel this one has turned out really well. I have not driven one of these with a 964 cam or a 20/21 (both common go to options for a stockish motor) but with this custom camshaft, it really does feel good. Bottom end is possibly just a little softer, but from 3500 it really wants to keep going. Obviously, we have not done many kms yet so don't want to rev it too hard but initial impressions are VERY good. Would love to get it on a dyno when it has done some kms. This motor runs very very smooth. It is fitted with a set of SSi heat exchangers and a Dansk sport muffler.. exhaust note is very sweet.. not obnoxious. Definately has a deeper growl to it which I believe is due to the extra duration of the camshafts. Blipping the throttle has the tacho needle swinging VERY quickly

POST 21Original post

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Sounds like a great combo. Congrats.

POST 22Original post

Another great build mate. With how pretty it all is, that filter cover really looks beat up.

POST 23Original post

Nothing wrong with a nicely cleaned up CIS.  It looked the business back in the day when everything else was running a pie dish air cleaner and a stinky old carb underneath.  When all the plating is up to scratch and The hoses are neat can look cool.

POST 24Original post

That looks stunning well done ...............

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Agree and the owner has just bought a new one

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