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wow, that really has to be. maybe its stolen and they trying to get rid of it or they are just plain stupid.

Look at the rest of the stock they have!! Hardly the sort of place to find a genuine 959. I'd say it is either a kit car or an early 911 with a body kit, both of which I'd steer well clear of. £21,000

The more you look at it the stranger it becomes. To start off 959 are currently trading between £130-160K,,,si if the decimal place is in the wrong place they are having a lark if they actually meant to advertise it for £219K.Especially as 37,000 miles is not low,as in collector low miles. Secondly 1987 ...HhhhhMMMmm!! I thought 959 were 1988 cars. Then the obvious thing is that it is a body kit on a 1987 Carrera,,,it says that it has ABS,,,,this was not available on regular 911 (non 959) until the 964 arrived in 1989. The number plate is worth £2k anyhow. I think it is either a completely wrong ad,as in detail,,,they describe it as Petrol....well yeah..lets hope so or more likely a 1987 Carrera with a bodykit on it that doesn't actually have ABS... The ad also states it has a warranty....The sophisticated wheel and tyre pressure monitoring sytem on a real 959 would cost more than the advertised asking price to replace. It is definitely worth a phone call tomorrow on cheap rate to find out if it is a real 959 for this price,if so just buy it...don't even bother with an 89 point check from your local OPC.

Paul. I'm surprised you're not making the call yourself tomorrow. My guess is the car is £121k, having a typo mistake. The 130/160k is dealer prices, anyone wishing for a quick sell would need to undercut. I know of one "outfit" that have had a couple of 959's for sell since this time last year. I remember reading once of a 959 owner being quoted £15k for a spare set of alloys!! Many of the parts are very specialist and porsche bought all the production runs from their suppliers. DAZ

I may even offer them £22k and let them keep the change Daz....Thing is it wouldn't keep up with an X50 TT anyhow..I would have to be very careful about which company I kept while driving it.

The 959 had headlamp washers... this car doesn't...

Does'nt look like a 959 to me, looks more like a 911 with a bodykit.

Hmm Ive seen a very good rep 959 built on a '70's sportomatic!! agghh but it was a bloody close rep gutters ground off and lots of real 959 bits- tho not the wheels!! it was at various show in the early 90's edied to add a real one- >> Edited by iguana on Thursday 3rd July 23:06

A "real" 959 also has a fuel flap mounted in the bonnet on the LH side.....I cannot see one in the photo.....so I guess this is a Carrera wearing a 959 body kit !!!

I don't know what you mean, I mean these are all top quality supercars in the £100-200k market are they not FIAT SEICENTO MIA LTD EDITION, 1999, T reg. 3 door, in Blue, service history, stereo, 12 months MOT, cheap Tax and insurance. £2,295 . FORD MONDEO 2.0 LX 5DR, 1996, P reg. 55000 miles, Metallic Green, service history, CD, e/w, e/m, h/f/s, 12 months MOT. £1,895 . NISSAN MICRA VIBE SPECIAL EDITION, 1996, P reg. 3 door, in Gold, airbag, service history, 12 months MOT. £1,850 . Edited to add- wheres that 'real' 959 pic I posted earier gone? peskey computers >> Edited by iguana on Thursday 3rd July 23:50

Maybe they don't know the true value? Perhaps the chap pricing it just looked at Parkers guide trade price for an '87 911... Having said that, the person that sold it to them must have known, or maybe they just got a poor deal Must be a replica

Yep, tis a 3.2 Carrera with a 959 bodykit, and yes, he said its a '0ne off'... I'm sure it is!, but does come with 300MK/H speedo

There have been a few of these replicas over the years, some more convincing than others. The real ones have been at 95-150k recently depending on mileage and Porsche upgrades. Parts availability is pretty horrendous, for example all the remaining 'screens (not, as widely believed, identical to the 964 item) have been squirreled away and would be at least £5k, mirrors are not available, the diff. gauge cannot be replaced etc etc. Bodywork is, and is likely to remain, easy to acquire, if expensive. >> Edited by mrsd on Friday 4th July 13:57

IIRC the doors were the same... but that was about it..

Doors and bonnet are custom made in loadofcrapthatthepaintfallsoffandthatdingsreallyeasily (tm) aluminium alloy and are only 40% the weight of 911 items. The front bumper 'wrap around' is fiber-reinforced polyurethane, the f&r wings are 6 layer GRP with kevlar reinforcement. The central section is a steel monocoque but is not identical to that of the 911 and has an integral 'cage.

959 had dirty great scoops on the rear wings to aid cooling of the brakes.... this one doesn't I know we've discounted it as genuine now but thought I'd try to join in the techie trainspotting type thing going on..... or maybe not.... Funny looking thing the 959, why did they make it look like the 964/993 that was about to come along ? Maybe making it look Porsche-ish but not 911 ish woudl have made it a bit more special ...?

Doesn't it ? I think they can just be seen under the wing mirror ? Maybe, but porsche styling has always been evolutionary and very conservative. The sad thing, IMO, is that the interior is so close to stock 911. A few styling touches (like the TechArt and Ruf Porsches) and perhaps an exclusive steering wheel would have helped the interior to feel 'special.' They did offer colour coded interiors, but they're horrific Edited to sort quotes >> Edited by mrsd on Friday 4th July 14:36

Bloody 'ell your eyes must be good - I can't see anything on that small picture. I wonder if I have I been doing something to make my eyes go bad ?

Nope they are intercooler ducts, twin side mount I/C's on the 959.

You mean you can't see the positive rear wheel camber (by 0.3mm) in the photo? Its what first alerted me to the car not being a Genuine 959

Iguana - I bet that was Ritchie & Mark King's car guards red - they really did a good job on it - even ground out and filled the bolts on the 3 piece wheels (959 had forged wheels with hollow spokes as we all know). I've seen some high mileage 959s at just over the £100k mark in the past year or so. Have to say that having had a ride in one it felt a bit of an old dog to me

It would have to be very worn smooth to feel like an old dog Should feel easily as smooth as a 993 with very good chassis refinement and no rattles...but they do all smell of wee

Why do they smell of wee? (Just curious, mrsd) Was it an option at the time? Some did have a nasty tweed cloth trim that looked like Colonel Mustard's pantaloons. Maybe these were pre-impregnated. I think Rubystone was spoilt by that 964RS he owned. Everything else 911 shape just didn't cut it for him, I suppose, hence the cheap insults

Same smell as GRP boats, something to do with the bonding of the plastic panels to steel apparently

Dom - actually you're right, I was comparing the 959 to the RS that I owned at the time I had the ride in the 959 - fair comparison, both lhd after all...similar bhp per tonne... ...having worshipped the ground the 959 trod - I admit, I had that 1987 Porsche Cars poster of the 959 on my garage wall, not to mention a slightly dodgy Athena "photoreality" drawing poster out at the same time - windscreen just a little too upright, white just a little too blue... and frankly the car just felt "ordinary"....not "special" in the way Barry Robinson's Countach (BR 33 to those old enough to remember) felt when I had a ride in it....(yes another dream car of mine I'm afraid, but I'll take an LP 400 please...in yellow if you insist) The 959 had done more than a few miles because the owner (Mr Zymol at the time) had used it in the manner intended - but that ought to have made it better... ...it felt like a 165 bhp 2.7 lux on Boge suspension I'm afraid

Checkout the price of this 959: www.graylandsltd.co.uk/_graylands.htm got to be a mistake!