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Hi Does anyone have a GTS being held on Porsche no sale? If so do you know why. Thanks

There is a stop sale on a few chassis numbers but currently awaiting further instructions from Germany.

Thanks for your reply. I had a date to collect mine and then its was stopped by Porsche no reason given to me or the dealership as to whats wrong. They could at least have had the decency to have given some idea of the reason and what was happening.From previous experience with other cars they just do not seem bothered.

I’m not convinced the dealers have been told why. Only that there’s a problem and the car mustn’t be released.

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Phthalo said: Hi Does anyone have a GTS being held on Porsche no sale? If so do you know why. Thanks I believe it is the same for the whole 718 range. My dads GT4 has be held as well.

I’ve been told Thursday for mine We shall see

I've just had a 718 GTS 4.0 as a loan car for 24 hrs whilst my 981CS had its last service before it goes on sale. Had the CS for almost 6 years so was an interesting comparison (I've already driven several 4 pot 718's). It was a manual versus my pdk. The gearbox is lovely to use, and nice to get back into one. It's a noticeable step up in performance, and louder than than I was expecting from what I read/youtube videos. I'd have no problems living with it (my CS has PSE). The engine is very mechanical, and reminds me of the 996T I had the way it rattles. It's very torquey. The ride in standard was noticeably choppier/firmer than mine (both cars have PASM). A couple of things not to my liking; I prefer the way the 981 centre air vents are integrated, and the 718 chrono gauge reflects in the windscreen. The most surprising thing I noticed that although both cars have sports plus seats, I felt I was able to sit lower in my car, which I prefer. Oh, and I wouldn't have crayon and blacks wheels. Paul.

Phthalo said: Thanks for your reply. I had a date to collect mine and then its was stopped by Porsche no reason given to me or the dealership as to whats wrong. They could at least have had the decency to have given some idea of the reason and what was happening.From previous experience with other cars they just do not seem bothered. Sometimes these things happen so fast it can take a couple of days for the details/fix to make it to the importers. Not even Porsche UK could give an indication of the concern/fix when asked a couple of days ago. Better that than to put your life at risk.

Yes you quite

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It is possible it is not your cars that have an issue! The following is not based on any detailed inside information! Car manufacturers have emissions targets, average across all sales. The penalties for breaching these limits are absolutely enormous. To meet their target each manufacture must balance their portfolio of sales between high, low and zero emission vehicles. If Porsche have sold under the allocation of electric or low emissions vehicles or suffered slower delivery of Taycans, they may have to delay supply the higher emission cars to rebalance their total sales. Given the cars mentioned are normally aspirated models with relatively higher emissions, this may explain why these models are being held back. If the manufacturers targets are set to be measured at the end of March, either for the quarter or a full year, could this be the reason for the current delays? As I said at the start, this scenario is not based on any inside knowledge, it’s merely based on adding the pieces together.... and could be entirely wrong!!!

That's a really neat theory - I'm loving that Entirely possible I would say, and the stop sale appears to be worldwide.

Went it collect my GTS on Tuesday and was given stop sale at point of leaving. I was told there are 62 UK cars in 718 range in stop. No update from Germany as to what the issue is. I understand that’s it’s best to be safe etc but am now losing my patience. I can’t understand if they have identified the issue why they can’t at least tell the customer.

Yes a nice thoery. I think its only the EU where fines are incurred, so why worldwide, plus the Taycan is suspended

You may be right, however I thought the Paris agreement on climate was behind the control mechanisms. The Taycan suspension was reported as software. If correct, this could be the catalyst for the sales portfolio being out of balance? Lots of assumptions.... the outcome of which is probably far off the real reason!!

There was a post earlier this week and its an issue regarding suspension fixing components not being made to correct spec, and needing to be swapped out.

Hi Just had word from my dealership that the reason for the no sale on cayman GTS is that it is possible inferior rods have been used on the engines. This means engines have to come out for the the rods to be replaced. Time wise I was quoted week 20 for this to be done but maybe longer if they can't source the parts. Great!!

Phthalo said: Hi Just had word from my dealership that the reason for the no sale on cayman GTS is that it is possible inferior rods have been used on the engines. This means engines have to come out for the the rods to be replaced. Time wise I was quoted week 20 for this to be done but maybe longer if they can't source the parts. Great!! How would people feel about this? At the factory where engines are assembled the techs are building them up every day. Will the techs in the OPC workshops do this job competently? I'd like to think they will, but I'd be a bit concerned. Are engines bench tested at the factory? Or is that a thing of the past?

I think they're still bench tested for a short while, but I suspect longevity is what they're concerned about.

I’d imagine they would exchange the engine not rebuild? Presumably affects a fair few who’ve taken delivery already as well as those disappointed at point of delivery.

I was to pick mine up today all insured and previous car sold.I am not sure how they will or will not deal with all the trouble its causing to the customer. They told me that they were to fit new rods and this meant engine out not a replacement.

Phthalo said: I was to pick mine up today all insured and previous car sold.I am not sure how they will or will not deal with all the trouble its causing to the customer. They told me that they were to fit new rods and this meant engine out not a replacement. Sorry to hear this Phthalo. I’d really kick-off with Porsche about an OPC technician ripping the bottom end out of my new engine. Never heard such a thing, should be replaced as a unit in my opinion.

Phthalo said: They told me that they were to fit new rods and this meant engine out not a replacement. I love this description, just as if it's fitting new brake pads. Not the full engine rebuild which it is.

Unfortunately this sounds like it could well be a repeat of the 2013 2014 991.1 GT3 engine issues scenario of which a good number of PHers including myself were affected. Resulted in a class action instigated by 2 PHers 1 of which was Macca from NZ who sometimes posts on here more often on Rennlist I believe. As many will recall the action resulted in new engines being fitted by Porsche OPCs on delivered cars including compensation and a free unlimited mileage new loaner Porsche for the duration which from memory was up to 8months in some cases. Porsche overall dealt with the situation in a very fair and professional manner all told although it did take some pressure to obtain the results obtained. Depending on the number of cars affected imo can't imagine OPCs will be stripping down engines on new cars.

I think the sales guy said that it was cars built over a two month period.I was struggling a bit after 20 minute phone call about all the in and outs i just wanted to drive a GTS again.

My GTs is on stop, even got v5 form in post today

Sorry to hear that Herefordshire hope get it sorted soon.