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YOUR RESEARCH$700 for 4-year maintenance?
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But before taking it in, I did several of the required maintenance items myself, namely, (i) I purchased an activated charcoal pollen filter for $20.50 and installed it myself using an article posted on this forum, (ii) I replaced the stock air filter with the EVOMS V-flow last summer, again with the help of an article on the forum, and (iii) I purchased eight quarts of Mobil-1 0W-40 ($40), an OEM oil filter ($10.44), and six OEM plugs ($40.38).
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I used my PCA for a 10% dicount on both my CS and my wifes
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This way everyone will learn a bit about their cars and when you bring the car to the dealer, you'll only need a basic inspection and check which should lessen the $$$pain$$$.
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This way everyone will learn a bit about their cars and when you bring the car to the dealer, you'll only need a basic inspection and check which should lessen the $$$pain$$$.
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Actually this is what he wrote:
I guess your are due for the four year maintenance. I would recommend the 20,000 mile service, which includes and oil, oil filter and pollen filter with a major safety check and fault data check. (est. $475.00)
I would also recommend a brake fluid flush est cost $225.00.
I've done some search on the site and looks like the lowest cost quoted by a Porsche mechanic was around $250 for the oil, oil/pollen filter change.
I just took my 2006
Boxster S
in for its four-year maintenance. But before taking it in, I did several of the required maintenance items myself, namely, (i) I purchased an activated charcoal pollen filter for $20.50 and installed it myself using an article posted on this forum, (ii) I replaced the stock air filter with the EVOMS V-flow last summer, again with the help of an article on the forum, and (iii) I purchased eight quarts of Mobil-1 0W-40 ($40), an OEM oil filter ($10.44), and six OEM plugs ($40.38).
I had my trusty Mazda mechanic (and
Boxster
owner) install the items in (iii) for $144. Then I took it to the Porsche dealership to flush the brakes ($185) and do the whole host of inspections required by the four year maintenance ($110). The total cost, not including tax, was $550.32 for all of these required services.
Right, so could somebody who actually works at a Porsche dealership explain the pricing. I have yet to see a service price in American dollars that doesn't appear as though it is in Japanese Yen. I am also curious how many of you do things like negotiate on price.
The parts add up - list price on an engine air filter is over $60, a cabin air filter is $45, and so on.
9 quarts of Mobil 1 0W-40 is going to be a minimum of $63 or so.
Then add the dealership's book labor rates, which are $125/hour at most dealers.
You can see where parts and labor add up very quickly.
I'm going to have my two year service today, and even with my own oil and filter it's going to be just about $500 thanks to the brake fluid flush.
Momentum just did our 2yr. maintenance and it was 195 for the oil and 90 for the brake flush. I used my PCA for a 10% dicount on both my CS and my wifes
Boxster
. Sounds like you are getting hosed dude. We have 1 more yr fact. warranty but even on the exstended I commited to them since we can extend the warranties up to 8yrs. total.
Some I do myself but you gotta throw them a bone every once in a while. Go on line and see if they are running any specials and print out the coupon helps a little. You might even try another dealership they are differant you want to think the best but reality strikes. Oil/Brake fluid on both got out the door for under 300 I don't know what pricing book they are looking at and Porsche has one. Good luck!
When I recently took my 2006 CS in for service, I was shown a menu of options ranging from the "Basic Annual" oil change with minimal inspection (pretty much what you would get at a Jiffy Lube) for about $230, ranging up to about $1200 including new intake and cabin filters (did myself), brake flush (did myself), thorough inspection including
PIWIS
scan and road test. Of course, they do throw in a free car wash with that . . .
Just paid $830 for my two-year maintenance including oil change, engine air filter and pollen filter, would have been around $1000 had I not provided my own filters (
great
parts pricing from Porsche of Orlando!)
Labor charge at my dealer is now $125/hour.
Some of these prices are getting insane. Besides visiting an independent shop, you should think about posting in the regional forums and see if any fellow members here can help with the air filter and oil change work.
Invite a group over for a "tech" session and host a small BBQ/party. This way everyone will learn a bit about their cars and when you bring the car to the dealer, you'll only need a basic inspection and check which should lessen the $$$pain$$$.
I just paid $890 for 2-year maintenance including oil change and brake fluid flush. Not sure brake fluid was needed since car has only 8500 miles but owner's manual says needed every two years/20k miles so OK I guess?
Picked up my 06 CS today. Had the "major" 60K service (actually have 55K) and tech inspection. Included: oil change, air filter, cabin filter, plugs, serp. belt, power steering fluid, gear oil, coolant change, brake bleed, wiper blades and washer fluid. Cost was $1,095. I also had him install the Mantis underdrive pulley and replace the water pump.
Ready for Sebring this weekend!
Just got mine done for 20k, $90 for brake flush, $100 for pollen filter, $320 for wheel alignment, $350 for oil change.
Brake flush is a rip off lol, I have a turbo style wheels and i didn't realize i dont even need to take the wheels off, I can reach the bleed valve straight through the rim openings. Besides that I think without the wheel alignment (terrible NE winter) It should be 500$ for a 20k oil change. Dunno about 40k though.
I'm too embarrassed to actually admit what the dealer charged me for 30K / 4 year service last fall suffice to say it was a princely sum. I bought my 05
Boxster S
used last July with 27K on the odo. There were a bunch of "service campaign" items that were also addressed at no charge so I was not too upset at what I got for my money.
The one thing did catch my attention was the cabin air filter parts / labor was about $100USD. I think a cabin air filter on a convertible is moronic. It will not get replaced again.
Here's the response from my 40K service inquiry...
"Our 40k service for your vehicle, which includes oil service, engine air filter, in-cabin pollen filter, spark plug replacement, and complete inspection runs $1289........."
Ugh
Apparently service prices vary widely, partly due to different labor rates and different things done. My complete 4-year service was about $970 before the 15% discount on parts and labor; so about $825 bottom line.
My
Cayman S
is more than 3 years old with 22,000 miles. I've never spent a cent at the dealer for service. I go to free Porsche Club inspection days at the dealers and get my records updated, service light reset, and learn of any recalls or updates ( I do tip the service technician) . It's not hard to do: oil and filter changes, cabin filter change, air filter change, brake fluid change. Top up coolant and power steering fluid. Check torque on wheels lug bolts. Also change summer/winter wheels every fall/spring. And, I will change out the brake pads when the time comes. You can learn to do all these things from Articles section of this web site. I buy the parts from sponsor
Suncoast
, and simple tools like (two) floor jacks, jack stands, oil drain pan, filter removal tool, brake bleeder kit, torque wrench, etc. at any auto parts store. Mobil 1 is about $5/ qt. and you need 8 qts. Important to keep all receipts and make detailed notes in your service booklet so your warranty remains valid. Get a friend to help you if necessary.
Yep! Sounds spot on! I'm doing exactly the same thing and it saves a bunch. All of the above is exceptionally easy to do if you follow the "How To" section in the articles of this web site. The first time is slow, but it moves much faster the second time. Oil changes are very easy. Brake rotors and pads are easy. Filters are a cinch. I do have access to a lift which is covenient, but not absolutely necessary. Worth the little bit of elbow grease expended, and the initial outlay for some of the basic tools. But armed with the knowledge learned here, I have tackled my wife's Lexus for additional savings. I too buy from
Suncoast
, and shop around for deals. It's the way to go if you don't mind getting your hands dirty and learning some new skills along the way! :banana:
Stuff I don't want to do or am intimidated by I'll leave to a German Import shop with a good reputation. Pricing nearby my house runs 1/2 to 2/3 what the dealers want, and they will let me bring the parts! I will have them do the new serpentine belt I just got from
Suncoast
, as well as replacing the plugs. They are buried so deep in the engine and I don't want to risk breaking one off. I'll pay a little more to have a pro do these infrequent tasks and reset any maintenance dash lights while they've got it. This all goes a long way towards keeping maintenance costs down without cutting corners.
~Wailer
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