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This includes dressing all the rubber seals and lubing everything and making sure the door latches are adjusted right.
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The door panels are cleaned along with the dash, visors and everything else.
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First off I made sure everything worked and the oil was just changed along with a service that I always do myself.
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Use by uninformed buyers and bring your superior sales skills
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By realizing these a rookie negotiating tactics used by uninformed buyers and bring your superior sales skills to bear.
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Next, at home is detailing the frunk, cleaning the battery compartment, vacuuming the carpet, cleaning under hood, struts, checking tool kit and spare, making it look new.
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Next, at home is detailing the frunk, cleaning the battery compartment, vacuuming the carpet, cleaning under hood, struts, checking tool kit and spare, making it look new.
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This has worked every time, through about 30 transactions, for the last 30-odd years, with a "first encounter" success rate above 50%.
I realize everyone wants to get the best value for their money but it is frustrating when someone comes to look at a 10 yr old car and picks it apart stone chip by stone chip. Then they say it's not "Perfect" well, if you are looking for a perfect car then go to the bank, withdraw a 100K and go to the Porsche dealer.
Then there are the low ballers that offer to "buy" it without even seeing or test driving it for an insultingly low offer.
I will not get into details on here but I consider my 2003 car to be way above average condition with very low miles <30
How do you deal with these people?
It is the nature of the beast, everybody is looking for the best deal possible. I know I get frustrated when I have sold cars, but I also buy cars so I understand both sides. You either let it go for less then you want or you wait until the perfect buyer arrives and plucks down the money. Be patient and you will get what you want. Good luck with the sale. It is an awesome car
Recently, a friend was shopping for a used 996, and the second car he looked at was a 2003 996 cab in very good condition. They were asking for $23K and he offered $18K and they settled at $19K. In my mind, he got the deal of the century
Amazing. A 2003 for 19k? With how many miles? I would think a 2003 C4 with under 30k miles would still fetch $28k. No? We've been both buyers and sellers, and it goes both ways. When I was looking for my car in 2008, I wanted an '02 with around 30k miles, which I figured I would get for around 36k back then. Every dealer, large and small, that bought cars from auctions, wanted between $38 and $42k, so no known history, besides Carfax, and most were cosmetically only OK, and none had PSM, which I wanted. The local Porsche dealership, that claims to only sell "known good trades" STARTED at $48, with CPO, but they were far and away the best examples I'd seen, and well optioned. I ended up buying a paperwork traceable 2nd owner car with just under 30k miles for $32k (asking $36k), optioned almost exactly as I wanted, but it took 8 months to find, and from a poseur owner that really knew nothing at all about cars, much less Porsches. (He had paid $52k, 2 years earlier for it with about 20k miles on it. I think that telling him we could drive right down to the bank and get cash, since he had the title, had some impact, plus the wheels were rashed, and the front bumper cover needed repair or replacement) I don't lowball, I use paper work and comparatives to justify (both directions). Always list your price as FIRM, (he had, didn't stop me) whether it is or not, and that will weed out most of the lowballing idiots, but will not deter the serious buyer, from making a reasonable offer. You have to have the min price in your mind that you are willing to accept and go from there.
The trick is to try and not take it personally - It's it bargaining, plain and simple. You have your price that you're asking, but everyone knows that that is typically just the starting point - the question is how far down will you go. The buyer is just testing you with the first offer - need to see how desperate you are to sell. I typically come down about $500 or so, say I really want to make a deal, but that I can't go lower. Not only would I say it is just business, it is also just a game - some people feel good about "working the deal" and others simply won't buy if you don't come down some.
After listing a BMW of mine on CraigsList for about two weeks and dealing with lots of hagglers, I posted an ad with the price dropped $1000... and said FIRM - no haggling - as low as I'll go! Guess what... the calls/emails stopped, but then a week later, a guy came and bought the car, no questions asked.
Man, I wish I found that 2003 cab for $19K!
You only need ONE right buyer, I suggest you figure out the price you want, add between 5~10% to weed out those who wouldn't appreciate the proper values before they even come to see the car, and then let those buyers who are truly interested to negotiate the price down to a number you are comfortable with.
The mileage was slightly over 100K, but the condition was good and the PPI came back clean. The car needed a little TLC, but there is no dollar value on TLC. Believe me, I bought mine 996 about 6 months before he bought his and I would have grabbed it quick if I had seen it first. I am really glad it was my friend who found it. You just never know. Buying and selling cars is a real art
I love watching South Beach with this guy that buys and sells classic cars. In one episode, he buys a nice 1955 chevy truck for $3K and sells it at the end of the episode for $8K. He didn't do a damn thing to it
If you think selling a 10 year ols car is frustrating, try selling a 30 year old Porsche.
If you're a member of PP forum search my user name for the thread I started on the value of my 83 SC, it's a good laugh.
Guys were low balling me right and left, saying 170K was high mileage (which works out to less than 6k a year), telling me the upgrades actually devalued the car (SSI Headers, M&K exhaust, 17" wheels, etc..)
After almost 2 months I finally found a sensible man in Mass. that flew down and drove the car home without even the slightest issue.
Be patient.
+1 on that. We are selling a house and prospective buyers have given the most incredible reasons. Examples include: "Don't want a house with a pool" (then why come look at one?), or "too far from airport" (well you knew how far it was when you agreed to look at it), or "worried about flying golf *****" but still want a house on the golf course, and my favorite, "we don't want to live in that town" ok well then search somewhere else don't waste my time!. It's a crazy market and buyers are looking for a steal because of it.
Don't want to deal with it, trade it in. What I did when I was thinking about selling my '99 996 Cab just over 2 years ago is do the most through detail possible. I started with a very well taken care of car with 61K miles, never parked in the sun, seldom driven in the rain. First off I made sure everything worked and the oil was just changed along with a service that I always do myself. This includes dressing all the rubber seals and lubing everything and making sure the door latches are adjusted right.
So on with the detail. I hit the car wash first and spray degreaser on the suspension components and underside of motor and trans. Then carefully blast away, keeping the stream away from what I know is bad. Next, at home is detailing the frunk, cleaning the battery compartment, vacuuming the carpet, cleaning under hood, struts, checking tool kit and spare, making it look new. On to the motor compartment. Spray with cleaner and hose off, armorall when wet, buff when dry. This isn't hard as I do it a couple of times a year anyway.
Interior is next with removal of the seats and the most thorough vacuum job ever. The door panels are cleaned along with the dash, visors and everything else. Mine was all leather so it got the leather cleaner , softener, polish. Now the gauges and each dash vent louver is cleaned and dusted, as are the ***** and switches. Lastly the windows inside, mirrors and anything else. The silver console and sports seats backs were waxed. Mats freshly shampooed. Inside looks just like brand new now, no dust anywhere only a slight patina on the seat cushion outer side.
The scratches on a couple of minor curbed rims were polished out and the lug bolts removed and painted. The rear plastic window was clean and polished and the top cleaned. The car is generally pretty clean on the outside but will be washed just prior to showing. The only excuses at this point are a few chips on the bumper cover and badly worn tires. everything else looks nearly showroom new.
I had a friend and business customer express some interest in my car at one time so I called him and offered him a ride and drive. We went in the canyons with me driving starting out slow. I picked up the pace, hit a few turns fairly fast and kept things very composed. I then pulled over and changed places. He drove the 5 miles or so down the canyon and back to my house. I could tell he was blown away with the condition of the car and how it drove. He asked If I'd sell it. I offered it for high retail of $30K with fresh tires installed. Without hesitation he said he'd take it.
I saw him last week and the car still looks fantastic. He's very happy with it and still thinks of it as a nearly brand new '99 Cab.
I have had good luck consigning my cars through a local high end used car dealership. They can get dealer retail and I get more than trade in... And they do all the paperwork and can arrange financing, warranties, etc.
Of course this does take a bit of patience and the car is out of your control. One was once slightly vandalized.mthe dealerships insurance covered e repairs.
It might have to do if your car is priced right or not. If you dont mind posting, what are you asking for your car and what is the mileage and options... We might be able to give you advise as how to get the most for your baby!
By realizing these a rookie negotiating tactics used by uninformed buyers and bring your superior sales skills to bear.
Ignore the attempt to discredit the car.
For every nitpick negative comment mention the car's condition, its documented servicing, it uniqueness, how you have lavished love on the car the whole time you've owned it, and all the other positive things you can come up with.
Point out how it stacks up against nearby cars that are in worse shape, do not have the same options, the same desireable colors, are going for more money and have obvious things wrong with them.
IOWs, sell your car do not let some goofy lame *** wannabe nose picking tire kicker attempt to use things about your car you know are not applicable to the real value of the car.
For the low ball offers, use the same comebacks pro car sellers use.
For instance, ignore the question and ask the caller how much he has to spend, when is he thinking of buying and so on, what other cars has he found, etc.
If you need a refresher course just venture on any used car lot and make a low ball offer.
Remember price is not a fact only an opinion.
And from a seller's point of view there's a seat for every *******.
Sincerely,
Macster.
Auctions are another way to sell a car with less hassle. A good action house will be able to help you accurately value your car and they take it from there. I recently heard a presentation from a guy that works at Bonhams. It was neat hearing their perspective.
I buy and sell cars using a single approach:
1. I research thoroughly and decide what I think is a decent deal for myself and the other party (whether buyer or seller),
2. offer to buy (or sell) the car for that amount,
3. state clearly that I don't negotiate, and that if the other party doesn't want to accept my price, we can go our separate ways, no harm no foul.
4. If someone insists on negotiating, I terminate the discussion.
The key is being prepared and being realistic about what the car is worth, but I always get more than book + 10% and pay less than book - 10%. This has worked every time, through about 30 transactions, for the last 30-odd years, with a "first encounter" success rate above 50%. It's fast and pretty stress-free.
Good luck!
these days you need to have more patience especially when you are selling a car that the market is flooded with not to mention the internet allows every freak in the world to make a play at your car.
newer porsches(post 1998)are a dime a dozen and educated buyers know that.
auctions are a joke and a rip off (when you factor in their sales cut and entry fees/costs involved getting car to auction)unless of course you have a very special expensive model - ebay auction has gone downhill and most people who bid and win don't follow thru with the sale unless it is a very good deal.
advertize on craigslist, put a listing on the PELICAN FORUM and also this forum and let your local porsche dealership know the car is available - take your time and understand that annoying lowballers are part of the process. be patient and it may take a month or 2 to sell but eventually you should find someone who is serious.
You are asking $38,500. Might be a bit aggressive. Also, you need interior pics on Autotrader. 3 photos won't get anyone's interest. Put up enough photos to represent the entire car. Just my 2 cents.
$38k for an '03 hard top? That's extremely high. Even if car was original owner, all options, etc... it's very high. I would closer to $28,500 than $38,500.
How do I deal with these people? I don't after the 2-3rd time being jerked off, I never call them back or Our schedules just never seem to work out any more. Then after the car is sold I take the call and tell them I sold it for 1/2 of what I was asking.
After selling a Florida condo and two cars myself over the past two years, I'm a bit shell shocked. In the process, we met some of the most pleasant people you can imagine and some of the biggest a******s I've ever encountered.
So what's the new norm? Don't know, but now I'm pretty much cured of the For Sale By Owner syndrome.
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OK, just accepted an offer for 36.5 I'm happy with that. I had 3 standing offers of 35K. For those who were curious it was a 2003 C4S Coupe, 6-speed, Guards Red with 30,800 miles. 10K in options.
I appreciate everyone's input.
Gonzo 911, I see you found my AD, good advice
Sparks, Sahrk Attack, lol
SacTownGuy, Bite me. Just kidding
This is my first time not owning a Porsche since 2001 so for now, i'm Porscheless
IDK for how long though.
Has any one seen the new Boxster S in person
Wow that's a great price; honestly a bit surprised you got that - the buyer must've been looking for that color and options.
Usually the times you run into issues like the ones you described in the o/p is when the seller is asking museum-collection-mint money for a car that's not just not there.
JH3...Congrats! Your price is a great comp for my car. Could prices in AZ actually be going up? A year ago you would not have smelled anything over $32k. You did great!
