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2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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YOUR RESEARCH2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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Replace only every 30k miles

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You are all wasting oil filters - says right there in black and white that they need to be replaced only every 30K miles.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.
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This forum is definitely skewed with 90% doom and gloom situations since most that come here are asking about pm/fear/repair advice.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.
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This forum is definitely skewed with 90% doom and gloom situations since most that come here are asking about pm/fear/repair advice.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

Replace by doing it myself

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good article and encouraging knowing I'm saving over $400 per oil change by doing it myself.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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I figured a long term pro review would put some perspective to some of the doom and gloom bitch fest that can some times run rampant on car forums.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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150k miles and their fastest "Long term test" vehicle at the time.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.
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This forum is definitely skewed with 90% doom and gloom situations since most that come here are asking about pm/fear/repair advice.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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good article and encouraging knowing I'm saving over $400 per oil change by doing it myself.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

Replace only every 30k miles

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You are all wasting oil filters - says right there in black and white that they need to be replaced only every 30K miles.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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I figured a long term pro review would put some perspective to some of the doom and gloom bitch fest that can some times run rampant on car forums.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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150k miles and their fastest "Long term test" vehicle at the time.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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Their long term test of that 996 C4S specifically was only 40k.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.

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150k miles with those guys are long because they flog the crap out of the test vehicles.

2003 C4S Car and Driver "Our Fastest Long Term Test Car Ever". 150K mile review.
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Here is a great long term review of the 2003 Carrera C4S by Car and Driver. 150k miles and their fastest "Long term test" vehicle at the time. 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S "Our fastest long-term car ever." Link of review: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...service-page-2 Funny thing, I remember this review and llusted after that car so much that I have it in its original print from my subscription because I couldn't throw that issue away.

POST 2Original post

Another Stuart Smally effect taking place... Good for the new guys morale though. Nice article.

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Yea, I echo Alpine's thoughts... good article and encouraging knowing I'm saving over $400 per oil change by doing it myself. Yippie!!!!

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13498640

Agree. I figured a long term pro review would put some perspective to some of the doom and gloom bitch fest that can some times run rampant on car forums. It can get to a point where only a negative snarky attitude becomes the norm when the demographic of a car forum addresses those that come here with problems to be solved and vent their frustration. A important service but skews the reality of ownership and the joy of ownership can get lost in the mix. Here is another long term C4S review by SS: Long-Term Intro: 2003 Porsche Carrera 4S Power, handling and looks...what more could you want First part of review: http://www.superstreetonline.com/car...e-911-carrera/ Second part: http://www.superstreetonline.com/car...11-carrera-4s/

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This forum is definitely skewed with 90% doom and gloom situations since most that come here are asking about pm/fear/repair advice. Not really discussing performance/mod/enjoyment pleasure stuff. The only thing I didn't like about the first article is that it seems to jump from 40k maintenance/history logs alll the way to 150k. So does that mean the owner didn't have any issues between then? Seems a bit incomplete IMO.

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I wondered about that as well. I did a lot of research before I purchased my C4S. I read the following long term 911 review and they still seemed to praise the 03 C4S. Other than tires, I can only assume that was their biggest expense for the full 150k miles. 150k miles with those guys are long because they flog the crap out of the test vehicles. I would too if I don't have to pay for them new or pay for any servicing along the test.

POST 7Original post

Based on the way they worded it, 150k sounds like the cumulative total of miles they've put into various generations of long term 911s, not this specific car. Their long term test of that 996 C4S specifically was only 40k.

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You are all wasting oil filters - says right there in black and white that they need to be replaced only every 30K miles.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 13500079

I think you're correct. 40k miles has always been the benchmark mileage wise for Car & Driver long term tests. 150k is the total mileage from prior 911 tests totaled.

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