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I changed all 3 for the same reason as you.

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Replace vertical one

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I've changed the vertical one on the underside of the engine on left side, also the horizontal one on right side near to the oil filter, both being 32mm hex bolts.

Elusive 3rd chain tensioner

Use but plenty good enough

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On the occasional 1 out of 10 cold starts there may be just a muffled hint of a rattle for a fraction of a second...These oils aren't the very expensive oils many here use but plenty good enough for a street car.

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I changed all 3 for the same reason as you.

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I've changed the vertical one on the underside of the engine on left side, also the horizontal one on right side near to the oil filter, both being 32mm hex bolts.

Elusive 3rd chain tensioner

Use but plenty good enough

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On the occasional 1 out of 10 cold starts there may be just a muffled hint of a rattle for a fraction of a second...These oils aren't the very expensive oils many here use but plenty good enough for a street car.

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Try some 15/50 or 20/50 weight oil, that fixed 95% of my start up rattle compared to 0/40.Mobil1_Try some15/50Mobil1 or Valvoline 20/50 race oil, they will do the trick, at least they did for me.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Im changing the chain tensioner bolts in the hope of fixing cold start rattle (might work), on my rhd 996.1 c4 with M96/04 engine. I've changed the vertical one on the underside of the engine on left side, also the horizontal one on right side near to the oil filter, both being 32mm hex bolts. I cant for the life of me find the third vertical one which has the 'Allen key head', i think the one for bank 2. There is a lot online on Boxsters, where this is located under the air compressor (which makes sense). So I removed the air compressor and ... nothing there. Can any of you help please?

POST 2Original post

Its there. May not be an allen bolt my y2k has a 24mm (i think) hex

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Quotes source post: 20240407

Would you have a photo of where it is please .. I cant see anything under there at all?

POST 4Original post

Sorry that motor has long been blown up. 2 sec google search found this. I guessing that mine was an allen but forgot. Looks like u have to pull the ac comp mounting block too. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...y-for-ims.html

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Quotes source post: 20240420

Its there, was under the a/c comp mount on my 2001 c2. I changed all 3 for the same reason as you. And no luck. Still had the same startup rattle for maybe 2-3 seconds on cold starts only. Feel the spring in the old or new chain tensor, its very very stout/beefy, try pushing it in. Even without oil pressure it will keep chain tight enough at idle, thats why its there is my guess. If spring is not busted and chain guides are still intact,, 3 new tensors probably will have 0 effect. did me no good. All new tensors did nothing for my rattle... Try some 15/50 or 20/50 weight oil, that fixed 95% of my start up rattle compared to 0/40.Mobil1_Try some15/50Mobil1 or Valvoline 20/50 race oil, they will do the trick, at least they did for me. With the 50 weight oil, now on cold starts 9 out of 10 starts have no rattle at all. On the occasional 1 out of 10 cold starts there may be just a muffled hint of a rattle for a fraction of a second...These oils aren't the very expensive oils many here use but plenty good enough for a street car. Add a half can of moly to the M1/50 if ya want more bore score protection. some say moly is the answer, who knows... The Valvoline already has enough moly.. And cheap enough for a try if your all new tensors don't do the trick for you

POST 7Original post

this is an 04, the tensioner is buried under the bracket for the power steering line�.. this is with the AC compressor already removed�. Yellow highlights where the tensioner is hidden

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

All good now, thank you my friends

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