five point harness

I was just checking out this cool Raby-engined Boxster at BAT, and noticed that it's got a 5-point harness with the stock seats. Would something like that work in the 996 with a harness/roll bar? I'd like the extra support for AX, but don't necessarily want the expense and hassle of GT3-style buckets.

NO. No no no. There is so much wrong with that photo. That would never pass tech at any track event. 1) You can't run shoulder straps over the outside of a solid seatback like that. Porsche seats are not suitable for racing harnesses. You have to have holes in the back of the seat for the shoulder belts to run through, to constrain them from moving side-to-side. Or have a movable headrest with posts you can run the belts between. As shown there, there is nothing to keep the belts from slipping off your shoulders and your whole torso going forward. 2) Those anti-submarine belts are going to do nothing in an accident. Well, they are going to do something: they'll let your body slide forward 8 inches and then destroy all your favorite parts when you slam into those belts. Just like the shoulder belts, you have to have a hole in the seat bottom for the sub belts to go through so they can be properly tightened and prevent you from sliding forward. It is NOT okay to run the sub belts over the front of the seat bottom. 3) FYI hose are actually 6-point harnesses, not 5. Note the 2 sub belts, 2 lap belts, 2 shoulder belts. Like I said, it's not possible to run racing harnesses safely with stock Porsche seats. You need aftermarket race seats, or something like a GT3 seat, with the proper pass-throughs for the belts.

Yeah, I thought that might be the answer... just looking for an 'easy' way to get some extra support beyond my CG-lock.

did you really think that car EVER saw any type of race track[including the parking lot] ................i doubt it left the owners garage but for photo ops .........my cars interior was not that clean new ....it is a typical po poser .

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Came here to say this. I'm the safety chair for my PCA club. This would not pass for all of the reasons above.

There's a website out there that talks about how adding harnesses to stock vehicles can actually reduce safety rather than increase it. It's old, but interesting: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/05/five-point-belts-will-paralyze-you-and-other-fun-safety-facts/

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It's definitely something to consider. For autocross I actually think anything pretty much is fine since you have a 0.0000001% chance of crashing. So anything that holds you in the seat firmly and passes tech is a good idea. But for driving on racetracks or public roads, some careful thought needs to go into safety systems, and people should realize that there is a very real risk that modifications made in the name of safety could make the car less safe in certain situations.

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For sure. You need proper racing seats, harness bar or cage, airbags disabled and wearing a HANS. That's how you do it right.

The car on BAT with my engine had GT3 seats... they were removed when the engine failed and the owner sold the car to Stonegate Auto Sales.. The way they are set up isn't proper in so many ways, BUT the previous owner tracked the car seriously.... I have no idea how they passed tech, but they did! They should be removed and set up with the proper arrangement. I posted the same statement on the comments on BAT.. that's said, this car is a screaming deal!