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YOUR RESEARCHMagnetic Oil Plug Washer Blunder
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Fill 7 quarts
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Filled 7 quarts before I noticed the oil seeping across the floor from beneath the vehicle.
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I removed the Magnetic plug I had installed last time and carefully tried to observe whether there was a sealing washer on it.
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The PO installed a magnetic oil plug that I did not know about.
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I concluded there wasn't (couldn't remember), finished draining the oil, reinstalled plug being careful not to over tighten, changed filter and refilled with oil.
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I said, �Probably nothing, but I bought a bunch of these for $0.50 each, and I just got used to replacing them with every oil change.� I didn�t care to argue with him over $2.50 (5 washers).
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I concluded there wasn't (couldn't remember), finished draining the oil, reinstalled plug being careful not to over tighten, changed filter and refilled with oil.
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Smart move, changed the oil today. I removed the Magnetic plug I had installed last time and carefully tried to observe whether there was a sealing washer on it. I concluded there wasn't (couldn't remember), finished draining the oil, reinstalled plug being careful not to over tighten, changed filter and refilled with oil. While dumping the oil, guess what I saw in the pan, the fricken washer! Anyone else ever done this? Do I need it if the plug sealed well and not leaks?
If it is plugged well and not leaking, just keep an eye on it until your next oil change. I think the last time I ordered something from Auto Atlanta or Pelican, I also ordered about 15 of those sealing washers. Replace them every oil change.
Remember to check it with the engine up to temp...as it warms up things expand and it might start leaking. If you are quick about it, center the drain pan, pull the plug, place washer and put it back in. Bet you don't lose but just a little bit of oil. Less than a quart.
I believe they have aluminum sealing washers. I was just going through some parts in my attic the other day and found about 6 of them, I remembered I bought them when I got the kit, or when I was at LN for a Porsche event. I have yet to change it out, but now I know that I have them, I just might if I don't forget where they are next time I do an oil change.
"Prepare for the "virgin metal" crush ring argument, beginning in 3...2...1..."
I've been using the same crush washer for the last three oil changes... No drips yet...
If you are really paranoid, just drain it into a clean bucket with a filter, add the washer, reuse the oil. If you don't have one of these they are great for reusing oil or coolant.
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Yeah - I've done that one a time or 3. I've handled it 2 ways - left it for the next oil change. Used my finger to plug the drain while I reinstalled a washer. EZPZ.
If it leaks - fix it. If not - let it be.
Or, just chalk it up as a lesson learned and use this opportunity to "Oil Cleanse" the car. Drive it about 500 miles and drain. Remember to put the washer on the plug after draining this time. :-) Change oil and filter then move on with life.
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I bought 10 of these for .89 per, seems there's been an increase
Beats the time that I forgot to put the plug back in. Filled 7 quarts before I noticed the oil seeping across the floor from beneath the vehicle. What a mess.
The first time I replaced the spin-on adapter, I did not notice that the gasket stayed stuck to the adapter - so I wound up with a gasket sammich after installing the new filter. This held pressure for a moment...before blowing about a liter of pressurized oil all over the bottom of the car and my garage floor before I got it shut down.
If you are reasonably dexterous, you can remove the plug, stick your finger in the hole, add a crush ring to your oil plug, and reassemble without leaking an appreciable amount of oil. This is best done when the car is cold; otherwise, scalding oil running down your arm is a real possibility...
If this content is not technical enough: IMSB.
The trick is to do it all in one swift motion. Use one hand to invert the car and the other to remove the plug. You want just enough centrifugal force to keep the oil in the pan, but not too much so that it comes out the drain hole. If you move the car on a parabolic curve, you can achieve a zero gravity like state. It might take a couple of tries to get it right.
My other suggestion is to cryogenically freeze the block and sump, so that the oil is very viscus, maybe even approaching a solid. Don't try to start the car though, the IMSB will fall out.
Put the car in a large centrifuge as you replace the drain plug. Just make sure you have a x51 oil pan or you will starve bearings and your IMSB will fail...
Didn't Jake once say that you could probably run the engine without the drain plug and it would be okay? Some question of oil drain plug ripped off or cracked oil sump plate and making it another 20 miles home? Something like that. So maybe you could start up the engine and quickly swap out the drain plug and all would be well.
Technical Content - oil drain plug, oil drain plug washer, oil, oil sump plate, crankcase vacuum, AOS, IMSB, running engine, vacuum canister, oil filler pipe, oil filler cap, IMSB (sighhhhh)
It�s true. My mechanic flipped out on me when I tossed the old washer and gave him the new one to use. �What�s wrong with the old one,� he said. I said, �Probably nothing, but I bought a bunch of these for $0.50 each, and I just got used to replacing them with every oil change.� I didn�t care to argue with him over $2.50 (5 washers).
Can't believe I actually video taped my blunder fix. Taking one for the team. Used the old drain plug instead of my finger. Worked pretty well, very little loss.
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Great job man!!!! YAY!!!!!!!
What maybe 6 oz lost?
I must admit, I was waiting for a little craziness trying to get the plug back in, but you handled it like a champ.
I have changed my oil twice since I bought the car in April, once after I drove it the 3,000 miles home, and once since then. The PO installed a magnetic oil plug that I did not know about. Both times I have changed the oil, I have had to tighten the oil plug way past where I am comfortable with it in order for it not to leak. The first time I changed the oil, I tightened it to where I usually tighten oil plugs and it didn't leak until the car warmed up. That was fun, finding an oil puddle in the restaurant parking lot. I have used crush rings both times, although I am kind of guessing which one to use because I don't know which plug this is, although its probably LN Engineering. In any case, I don't think the crush ring is the issue.
Given all this, is it time for a new pan? They look relatively cheap on pelican. Any other advice? How hard is it to change the pan? I would buy another magnetic plug, as I think its a good idea, I just won't torque it to hell.
Sorry to derail! Nice save on swapping the plugs. The second time I changed my oil, I added too much oil (don't ask). I tried to let a little oil out and re-plug, but no dice. I ended up having to buy all new oil.
It's mean you have to be thick skinned around here my friend. Sneaky Pete has been on Rennlist a long time. Just ask him how Martin is doing these days. ha!
A long time ago I worked at a quick lube place. My claim to fame is that I once changed the oil on 150 (the pit work) in one day.
Anyway, we had a trick for when we needed to pull the drain plug after the new oil was back in the car.
Step 1: Remove Oil Fill Cap
Step 2: Put shop towel over oil fill location.
Step 3: Grab the shop vac (yes, the same one used to vacuum out the cars)
Step 4: Apply running shop vac to the oil fill location
Step 5: Remove and replace drain plug
The vacuum actually did a really good job of holding the oil in.
