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YOUR RESEARCHRemoving wheel locks without the key. Easy!

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Use 1/2" drive nut extractor socket

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I used a 1/2" drive nut extractor socket, which I was able to reuse on each one without a vice or similar.

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Recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts

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If anyone hasn't removed them already, I would recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts to your next Pelican Parts or ECS order

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Use 1/4" extension and a large hammer

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I used a 1/4" extension and a large hammer.

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Use 12 point

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From the cut-in indentations on your wheel bolt it looks like you used a 12 point.

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Use 12-point socket

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I used a 12-point socket which is likely preferable since the socket needs to cut into the bolt to hold.

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts

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If anyone hasn't removed them already, I would recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts to your next Pelican Parts or ECS order

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Recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts

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If anyone hasn't removed them already, I would recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts to your next Pelican Parts or ECS order

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Recommend just getting rid of wheel locks altogether

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I recommend just getting rid of wheel locks altogether.

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Replace locks since they can obviously be removed pretty easily

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And probably no need to replace the locks since they can obviously be removed pretty easily.

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Set cost me $95 (cad)

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The whole extractor socket set cost me $95 (CAD).

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Use 1/2" drive nut extractor socket

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I used a 1/2" drive nut extractor socket, which I was able to reuse on each one without a vice or similar.

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Use 1/4" extension and a large hammer

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I used a 1/4" extension and a large hammer.

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Use 12 point

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From the cut-in indentations on your wheel bolt it looks like you used a 12 point.

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Use 12-point socket

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I used a 12-point socket which is likely preferable since the socket needs to cut into the bolt to hold.

Removing wheel locks without the key. Easy!

Use favorite breaker bar

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Slowly twist off the bolt using your favorite breaker bar.

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Use immediately - assuming their key is missing

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Just busting on you, OP - that's a great tip that everyone should use IMMEDIATELY - assuming their key is missing - to get rid of those stupid keyed lug bolts.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I just finishing removing all four of my wheel locks and I thought I'd share the procedure just in case anyone else has the same problem. I believe I drove away with the key attached several months ago but I'm not completely sure. I didn't come up with this procedure but I couldn't find the original reference. I believe it was on 6speed. I don't personally believe that the locks would be a substantial deterrent for a motivated thief, so I don't think this post will result in net harm. But feel free to debate. The key piece of information is that you will need an old 11/16" socket. That socket size fits on the round portion of the wheel locks with a little persuasion. I used a 12-point socket which is likely preferable since the socket needs to cut into the bolt to hold. More points means more friction. Removing the wheel locks with the socket only takes slightly longer than removing the rest of the lug nuts. By far the most time consuming step is to remove the old lock bolt from the socket. Procedure is pretty straightforward Find a piece of heavy cardboard to place over the wheel to reduce the chance of damage. Cut a hole in the cardboard large enough to push the socket through. Just in case you miss the socket when hammering it onto the wheel lock. Hammer the 11/16" (12 point) socket onto the wheel lock bolt. It takes a bit of force and a few hits with a regular hammer. Slowly twist off the bolt using your favorite breaker bar. Here is the tricky part. Once the bolt is removed, put the socket and bolt into a vise, and hammer the bolt out of the socket. I used a 1/4" extension and a large hammer. It wasn't easy. Or just buy 4 sockets so that you can throw them out afterwards with trying to remove the bolt. Piece of cake. No need to take it to the dealership or buy one of those special extractor sockets. And probably no need to replace the locks since they can obviously be removed pretty easily.

POST 3Original post

I dumped my wheel locks long ago. PITA. Do my best not to leave the car overnight on Skid Row.

POST 4Original post

Good to know this if I need/loose the wheel lock key.

POST 5Original post

I had to do this with two of the locking wheel bolts on my recently purchased car. Two wheels with locking bolts attached and two without. I used a 1/2" drive nut extractor socket, which I was able to reuse on each one without a vice or similar. The whole extractor socket set cost me $95 (CAD). http://www.princessauto.com/en/detai...rs/A-p8381931e

POST 6Original post

I'm with Cuda, I'm dumped my wheel locks when I bought the car, I'm hoping someone will steal them so that I can get a brand new set of BBS wheels. hahaha... j/k... actually I'm not, I could use a new set! Seriously, my wheel lock key cracked from over torque. I drove to Porsche and they kindly identified the correct key number and offered to remove it free. I guess it's one of the few things they're willing to do without charging you an arm and leg. Nice write up though... good to know there are work around if someone is in a bind.

POST 7Original post

Wheel locks are so 1980's and usually more trouble than they're worth IMO. If you must have them to compliment your tape deck, at least email the lock code to yourself so you have it in the cloud and not somewhere it can get lost. All good wheel locks have a key code where the manufacturer can send you a replacement. Obviously this won't help if you're in a jam and need it on the spot right away.

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Or just keep an 11/16" socket handy and a hammer. That was kinda the point of this thread and it solves the "need it on the spot right away". However I am also a believer that they are more trouble than they are worth. In my case I was just too lazy to order regular bolts to replace them. If anyone hasn't removed them already, I would recommend adding 4 regular lug bolts to your next Pelican Parts or ECS order

POST 11Original post

Handy info Kgoertz, however, common sockets come in two flavors, 6 point and 12 point you didn’t specify which one. From the cut-in indentations on your wheel bolt it looks like you used a 12 point. Is that right?

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If you heat the end of the socket cherry red before you whack it onto the locking lug, you will have created a locking lug bolt removal tool that can be used over and over and you won't have to throw away the locking lug. That said, I don't see the point of the locking lugs and don't use them.

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The moral of this story: If you're such a crappy wrench that you can't consistently hit a socket with a hammer, you probably also have underdeveloped, girlish arms so weak that a piece of cardboard will be all you need to prevent your hammer from damaging your wheel. Just busting on you, OP - that's a great tip that everyone should use IMMEDIATELY - assuming their key is missing - to get rid of those stupid keyed lug bolts. NOW.

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12 point. Good call. I'll update the first post. Thanks!

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Okay funny story. I was really paying attention for the first wheel, and the second and maybe the third. I didn't need any stinkin' cardboard. But I realized I needed it for the fourth wheel (after-the-fact of course). One of my winter projects will now be to correct the small dent on my wheel. Thankfully I polished them myself so I know how to fix

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Also depending on wheel lock type, one maybe able to get away with using the multipoint sockets that Lowe's sells.

POST 18Original post

Thanks for this. Just cracked the locking lug bolt removal tool. Nova Scotia rust is tougher than the tool and firmly seized the bolt in place. John B 1999 996 [Felix]

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I still have the cassette storage for the lower console if ya need it!!

POST 20Original post

Thanks Kgoertz from down the 401 in Carlisle. Saved me alot of time with my new to me C4S with no key. 👍 BTW these OEM wheel lock bolts are junk. if you have nice wheels that you want to protect, I suggest a different product. Cheers, Michael

POST 21Original post

Hey... Show some love for the cassette tape player! Mine was never used by the previous owners and plays 50 year old tapes perfectly. The temperamental, has never worked since new, multi-disk CD player... not so much! Throw that P.O.S. in the garbage along with the locking bolts.

POST 22Original post

Thank you for this idea! Purchase the car without a bolt lock key. I had four of them off in 15 minutes and now I can finally get the directional tread correct on one of the tires that they goofed up not impressed by the dealership because of this and they had no remorse for their actions.

POST 23Original post

I remove the locks off of my rims immediately when I get a new car. 30+ years ago spent and afternoon with a chisel after a wheel lock broke on the stud. Swore to never again use wheel locks. Also, when buying a used car, make sure the spare fits. Why? I did a 4 wheel disc conversion to a my foxbody.....Never thought about the spare. Luckily, I purchased an aluminum spare that would fit over the brakes. The factory spare would not fit over the brakes. Could you imagine if I was out driving to the cottage late at night and had a flat with wife in the car? That I didn't check if the spare fitts? LOL. I've never told her that on the 996, a rear flat means you have to move a front wheel to the back and put spare at front!

POST 24Original post

I recommend just getting rid of wheel locks altogether. The only person it stops is ... the owner. Who wants your 20 years old wheels now?

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