Easycare warranty quote seems extremely high

Picked up a 2000 C2 with 35k miles a few months ago. I'm trying to get a warranty, but Easycare has quoted me at $3900 for only 30 months, 30k miles, 250 deductible. This is not a bumper to bumper warranty, but just the "statedcare" that covers everything thats not a wear item (Clutch change is NOT included). Searching this forum, it seems that my quote is pretty high compared to other easycare contracts and other companies. PPI said my clutch is probably going to go soon, so i could always just put the upgraded IMS bearing in, but i'm afraid that other stuff is going to come up. The previous owner had a warranty and the car never went into the shop for a claim. I have 38k on it now and havent had any problems other than a busted water pump which you obviously cant see coming. Are there any other current companies (im located on the east coast) that are better than easycare w/ 996s? Also, this pcar has not had an RMS leak. If it hasnt leaked by now, will it ever need to be? Since Easycare covers the RMS, i figured i would just buy the new clutch parts out of pocket when the RMS is being done under warranty...but if it aint broke, I'm not sure if it will need fixed when the clutch needs changed.

When I was searching for aftermarket warranties before I purchased my 2004 C4S about 3 months ago I looked at both Fidelity and Easycare. Timing is everything and the warranties were going up, Easycare much more so than Fidelity at the time. Similar coverage on my car was almost $2K more for Easycare so it made the choice pretty simple. In my case, I also chose to go with a bumper-to-bumper coverage as it was only $800 more than the powertrain-only coverage.

I bought a 2003 C2 with 28k miles in march, in April I paid $2800 for Fidelity platinum coverage, which is the most complete, for 2 years and 25k miles. Easycare was the same price but their website is so crappy I simply ignore those guys. Good thing with fidelity is that they will pay you back for any unused portion, aka if you sell the car before the end of the warranty. I liked that part considering I will never be able to factor in that cost at resale. One more thing I bought this from the Porsche Dealer Boardwalk in Dallas. I really wish they would sell direct as I don't like to pay a broker fee where no service is rendered ! !!!

Since you have a year that is subject to intermix, I would definitely get a warranty of some sort. My 2000 C2 developed intermix at 58K. Up until then, it was perfect with a dry RMS. When and if that happens, your choices are few and all painful. Now I have a rebuilt Porsche motor with a 2 year warranty but at what cost? Penny wise - pound foolish.

That seems high. I got maxcare for $3200 60k or 5 years. It already paid for itself....coolant tank, engine mounts, transmission gasket replacement (which basically requires the non covered wear and tear transmission service for free), condenser, water pump....

@emdog, where did you buy your maxcare 5 years for $3200 ? porsche dealer ?

I got it through carmax but it Is a company that handles most of the warranties, google maxcare and call them..they will give you the name of the main company that holds the warranties

Bought my '02 c4 cab with 38k miles from a dealer 2 years ago this november and paid $3,400 for easycare's total care package... 4 years, 48k miles Paid for itself within 90 days: RMS replacement, coolant tank leak, ect... paid for a new clutch out of pocket, but no labor for install since they already had it apart.. since then they have repaired bent or cracked rims 3 times (Houston roads suck!) and a few other items so it has definitly been worth it! Have another 22 k miles to have the engine go for a $250 replacement! None of the warranties will cover a clutch as it is a wear item.

I wish I could have taken a 4 year warranty but the price was like ridiculous for me, I think they wanted like $5k !

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lol, and I thought the $3,400 was high, as I got the car at near wholesale.. $29,500. more than 10% of the price! Thought otherwise when the first visit to the dealer totalled almost $6k and only paid $2k! (reg maintenance included...) Worth every penny in the end!

I think after reading the forum that it is pretty clear that the cars have maintenance potential The extended warranty is a no brainer for me. The peace of mind $2800, shutting up the wife bitchin'... priceless !

For what it's worth, I've had my 996 3 years now, and have spent less than that on maintenance. And most of that has been on consumable parts (battery, brakes, oil changes, tires, etc.). The parts that might be covered by a warranty like that would have the deductible applied - $150 radiator fan, $85 wheel speed sensor, $50 oil pressure sensor, etc. (And it does help that I do my own labor.) $4k in a CD account or something is probably money better spent. It's also worth pointing out that an IMS bearing retrofit and RMS replacement, if done together, would cost less than half of that policy... if you're concerned about sleeping well at night, I'd spend the money on that.

I have spent $3K on maintenance (brakes, battery, oil tires...) and $10K+ on Mods during the past 3.5 years of ownership. This website is the cash drainer; not the car.

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Truer words were never spoken....

I agree that the extended warranty main bummer for me, is that is means I can't enjoy working on the car, to replace small things, like water pump and stuff like that. I think if you work on the car yourself, save the money and invest in tools if you plan to bring it to the dealer for all stuff then warranty is probably a good choice.

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from the carmax site: CarMax utilizes several administrators for MaxCare extended service plans ("MaxCare"), including Consumer Program Administrators, Inc., Automotive Warranty Services of Florida, Inc. (Florida License No. 60023), Motor Warranty Services of North America and CNA National Warranty Corporation, Inc. You should consult your contract documents for specific information about the MaxCare administrator and insurer of your ESP agreement. CarMax is not a party to any MaxCare agreements. @emdog if you look at your contract does it say who the administrator is?

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That's what I'm considering when CPO expires - IMS and clutch for $2000 ish, then bank the other $2k for unexpected repairs that I can't do. Or maybe trade it for a 996 tt.

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me too.

I think putting the money toward a 996 TT...is a wise choice I had a carmax warranty before for my VW and the company was like american automotive warranty services I think. once I talk to them and they told me they were pretty much the biggest warranty service behind a lot of other names. not sure of the exact name or contact though : I have to say that I bought the car, before knowing the full extend of the IMS issue while the 996 TT seems to be the bullet proof one. If I had known I would have probably fork the extra 10k and go for the TT right away...may be

There is no bullet proof "used" car. Getting a TT is great but also consider the maintenance on the turbos. Replacing those suckers are not cheap if the PO did not warm up and cool down those turbos properly. Its a completely different ball game with those cars. There is no perfect car; it always appears that the grass is greener on the other side...

Also be careful with the warranties! I got a quote for easy care and a few other companies. After having to talk to about 10 associates, I learned the IMS was not covered so I just did not get one. I will if I can find one that covers that as well.

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Why did it take 10 different associates to determine if the IMS bearing is covered? If easycare doesn't cover I doubt fidelity does either. Can anyone confirm?

After reading fidelity policy,I assume that IMS is covered by Fidelity. But I did not call them to ask directly... the policy is so dense, hard to tell what is or not covered :S

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You know what happens when you assume....

Lol... indeed... may be I should give them a call just to make sure. let's see if i can get hold of anybody over there.

I have an Easy Care and can confirm it DOES cover IMS, RMS and all the leaks. I had it done twice already. One caution though: I am in Canada and have a Canadian contract. I am not sure if US is identical...

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Since the Platinum policy is an exclusionary policy and the IMS is not listed as one of the exclusions (primarily wear items) then one would think that a failure of the IMS should be covered. I do know for certain that the RMS isn't listed as being covered but they have provided coverage to policy holder's in the past.

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Do you know the difference between RMS & IMS? The RMS is a seal (i'm sure it's covered) the IMS we are referring to is a bearing. I'm fairly certain that you have not had the IMS bearing replaced twice.

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I've had an IMS seal replaced once. Does that count?

Ok so I called Fidelity and I am pretty confident it IS COVERED Th guy told me he even made a couple claims about the IMS in the past and was aware that the engine cost $25k. I asked him if he made many of those claims and told me he did one in the past 6 months and may be one or two more made by colleagues. one thing cleared

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Yes, I do know all about these not any less then you do, I am sure. It is not a rocket science after all. So I will type slowly just for you: I had RMS seal replaced once, together with the Interrmediate Shaft Flange and then: At the next occurence, 1.5 years later, I had RMS leak done again AND IMS flange replaced. That was twice in my book. I was offered by the mechanic the IMS BEARING replacement with an aftermarket one but declined since it would invalidate my engine warranty. The bearing itself looks very good but it makes no difference anyway since the first reason is all I am concerned with. Clear now?

try wading thru the aaa website. they used to offer a bumper to bumper 7 year/up to 85k mi. warranty. at least that is what i ended up with back in the day............ used it once for coolant expansion tank----no questions asked and paid claim.

Wow, thanks for all the responses guys. I called fidelity today, but apparantly you have to buy the warranty from the dealer. (new to this, but im sure most of you knew this) Unfortunately I wont be able to contact the dealer until saturday...so since i'm buying the warranty through the dealer, is that specific dealer the only place that i can take the car for service? I will be moving about 4 times over the next 2 years all over the US. Since my pcar has 38k on it, I'm getting a little more nervous when i read more and more threads on this board. I believe easycare will let me use dealers all over the country. Investing the 4k, by the numbers, would probably be the best decision...but i unfortunately reached out to buy this car a few years before i was financially ready...but whats the point in saving for 40 years from now when you dont even know if you're going to make it that long??

For info I purchased my warranty from a dealer over the phone, but I did not had to show them the car at all. I live 6 hours away from the closest Porsche dealer... You can use most if not all auto warranty at any auto repair shop.

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seems kind of wierd that they dont want to inspect the car before giving you a warranty...I purchased the car with an inop horn as well as a few minor flaws. I guess i can get those fixed when i'm up on the lift for the first time. One question i still have: I know many of the 996s have had RMS leaks. As stated in my OP, mine has not. If my clutch were to start slipping in say 5000 miles, would I be able to get the tranny out under warranty by saying that I need my RMS fixed? I've read that people go ahead and get the RMS done when the clutch is being changed...but i'm not sure if thats done b/c theres visible leakage present...or if they just expect a leak soon and fix the seal as a precaution.

I assume the warranty have some ways to check for false claims... and also think about how much money it would cost to do all the security check and put a balance in between... I don't think there are so many abuse, as there are only so many things they cover and most of them nobody want to replace them for the hell of it.

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The dealer will not replace the RMS seal unless it is leaking (or has shown signs of leaking in the past).

$2k for IMS AND clutch? this is at home I presume! Local shops at "quoting" $4k admittedly on the highest side of the range in hopes to come in much lower. Several factors are included in the high priced quote including an slave cylinder and a new flywheel. - knock those out and you are in the $2700 range.. I think $2k would be pretty tough to find a shop to do this for. That said..... its still the best way to "solve" the issue and for those thinking of spending $4k on a warrenty and needing a clutch on your own nickle... I might just "opt out" get the work done and drive the wheel off it

^ OEM Clutch parts cost $400, RMS is $40 and LNE IMS is around $6-700. How much would labor be in hours? If you are replacing other parts, then its additional.. Why is $2K not realistic?

I have an Easycare warranty, one level down from Total Care. I recently had a check valve failure that led to hydraulic pump failure and other issues. Easycare is denying the entire claim stating that the warranty covers control valves, not check valves. About $3.5K worth of repair, all told. I plan to go to arbitration. Perhaps, had I gotten Total Care, they would not be dodging this claim. However, to abbreviate a long story, they have been obstructionist at every turn in this tale. My advice: do not give Easycare your money.

Chao, you posted ~$1100 in parts @ $125/hr (Seattle shops are $140) thats about 7 hours labor = $900... add 10% tax and you just hit $2200 - James on here had the cheapest I have seen at ~$2500 +/- $ so I dont know... its just that IMO if you "think" its gonna be $2k and it comes out $2700 you might be pissed.. If you think $3500 and it comes out $3k you will be smiley keep in mind that the flywheel is nearly $1k and they do go bad

^ Ah. My indy charges me $100/hr and tax negotiable with cash. I realize other parts like flywheel, chain tensioners, AOS, slave cylinder and other while you are there list are $$$

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I had a new clutch kit installed when I had my RMS replaced under CPO warranty about 5k miles ago. The car has 39k on it. I'm hopeful that since the flywheel was fine 5k ago, the clutch kit was installed and RMS seal was replaced and not leaking now (fingers crossed) that I can have just the IMS bearing installed at $1600 for the bearing and labor. No sales tax in DE!

you are right.. you should be fine... there was an 05' that came in the other day for IMS upgrade but it had the big bearing and a good clutch set.. the parts bill was almost zero, pulled the seal ring off the bearing and off he went... those are the exceptions, not the rule... most cars dont know the clutch condition so you have to figure "while you are in there"

Sorry to hijack, but is the RMS change an upgrade or is it just a replacement? I'm checking around for the IMS upgrade and was wondering if I should have the RMS done at the same time. It's not leaking. 2000 C2 Tip. 38k miles

soverystout-thanks for the answer As an update...got home early and called the dealer. He basically blew me off and literally said my car was too old for a warranty. They use Universal warranty...not fidelity. So i guess my only option remains easycare. anyone else have advice? the other post about easycare dodging a claim currently doesnt make me feel too much better about the situation

there are many other warranties out there I hope someone could bring a list made from previous research, personally I only looked into fidelity and easy care as they were the one sold by the closest porsche dealer. I'd suggest to call all the Porsche dealer within like 500 miles range to see what they sell.

no fine print here= READ THE WARRANTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the one i got from aaa is the top of the line 100% bumper to bumper. maintenance items excluded, of course.

bumper to bumper nothing beat that ! if you can get one, go for it !

I looked into the AAA warranty but it was also about $2000 more than the Fidelity one with which I wound up.

I bought my car in 2000 with 4K miles. When it was coming off the factory warranty in 2004 I bought an EasyCare "TotalCare" policy ( pretty much comprehensive with a few exclusions), had a $200 deductible, 4 years and 75,000 miles. The total cost was $2,660.00. Bet they won't match that price or coverage any more. During the covered period they paid for an RMS (which covered the labor for a clutch replacement done at the same time) and to replace leaking cam sensors. I think the total payout by them was about $1,800, so I was a little in the hole. Of course the policy expired in Jan. 08 and I did not renew it or find another as cash flow was tight. Then in Sept. 08 I had the dreaded intermix. Bad timing that. The Porsche dealer said based on their experience EasyCare would probably have tried to source a used engine rather than paying up for a reman, but who knows as the warranty expired. I fixed the cracked head myself for about $1,500 in parts and the repair of the head, and a lot of my own time. Still probably less than a warranty would have cost.

Purchased car from another owner; then purchased an extended warranty from Fidelity ("Royal Protection Plan - Platinum" three years/36K miles) from local Porsche Dealer. Dealer inspected the car prior to issuing warranty. Recently replaced spoiler hydraulics (common problem) for $1500, covered under extended warranty. Warranty agent inspected and approved repair prior to work being performed. Agent also approved replacement of complete spoiler mechanism ($3700) if it was required for full repair.

Easy Care replaced my $12k tip...twice

fwiw, i do not think the same warranty that i purchased is offered by aaa. while i paid approx. $2600 for mine, i would have to determine if the extra 2k is worth it. bear in mind that this is a 2000 car we are talking about, a 3.4, and not a "fixed" 3.6.

is the 3.4 really that much more fragile than the 3.6... considering the main issue is the IMS and both seems to be prone to it...

i do not think so. i just drive it like it was meant to be driven. 36k on it now w/no problems. just had wrench replace coolant expansion tank====n/c-warranty. other than that, had a cpu replaced early on---porsche emissions warranty covered that. that's it, zip, zero, nada, goose egg.

Anyone know if easycare plan is voided if the car is taken on a track?