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YOUR RESEARCHcab owners - hardtop noises from trim?
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I've lubricated my entire car with dry silicon & no help.
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Did you check for the small screws under the outside latch in front windscreen parts.
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I need to disassemble mine to repair the rattling sound.
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Tighten anything you can find on the center of the hard top.
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Well, after 3 weeks my hardtop has officially started creaking so much I can�t take it anymore. I tried lubing all the contact points and seals with no luck.
I have the 10 page �noises in hardtop� tech bulletin 6102 which explains how to fix all the different types of �squeaking, creaking, grating, clicking, crackling & rattling� coming from different locations, but it�s confusing to say the least.
Since my noises are "creaks" caused by the interior trim pieces rubbing together I need to remove the roof strip clips (via spatula) and then remove all the interior trim panels & their fastening elements. Once removed, insolate all the contact points with foam rubber, felt, felt tape, or tricot tape.
Questions �
Has anyone eliminated noises from trim pieces in the hardtop without tearing it apart?
Is it difficult to remove all the interior trim?
How many hours should an indy or dealer charge to fix this?
I�d be happy to email this bulletin to anyone who wants it, or post it here if possible?
Thanks
Would love to see that bulletin emailed to: fsitx at yahoo to get a read on it. I do the greatest deal of my own work and, if I may say so, fairly fluid in understanding their manuals. My BMW M Roadster had the same issues with the hardtop and I was able to work them out in an afternoon. The top on my cab is starting to sing and it was something I was going to go after this weekend.
On it's way -
I had an MY00 M roadster & the hardtop was fairly quite. For the past two winters my 996 hardtop was quite too, but now it's coming off until I discover the problem.
Creaks I've got. Bulletin not.
Can you send, please?
I assume it's probably available to members at Renntech (I am a member)?
EDIT - Yes, I got it there. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I had the same problem. Per a suggestion from PCA, got a can of Wurth PTFE Dry Lubricant, sprayed along the trim above the windshield & the soft "felt" padding at the rear. Problem solved. (As I don't have good aim, did some light masking so the Cab didn't look like it just came out of a snow storm....)
I would love to have the bulletin also. Mine sounds like very quick "tapping" over the passengers head like a louder version of a pencil tapping on a countertop. Driving me crazy!
mine sound like an very cold old lady with dentures!! Resolved it by never driving with the top up...or when I have to (if it rains) turn the music up....
I noticed hat the loudest rattle comes from the "clamps" on the corner of the the windshield..does anybody have a solution for this tapping noise?
In the bulletin Porsche refers to the annoying noises as "squeaking, creaking, grating, clicking, crackling & rattling." I think the technical term for your "tapping" is "clicking" and it is covered.
RF5B - Which noise issue did wurth solve for you?
I lubed all the seals with silicone spray prior instillation and top was silent for a few weeks. Now I have a crackling sound which seems to be coming from the interior trim rubbing together. I may need to take it to the dealer to correct this.
It never seems to be perfect. One of the issues can be from the rear window deck that has a tendency to 'pop' over bumps. I fixed it by pushing little foam wedges in between the deck lid and the metal frame. The other thing I noticed was that the windows squeak a lot against the rubber seals. I'm hoping that Wurth's does the job.
I saw the bulletin on the top noises....almost daunting. The only times I ever heard sounds from the hard top were when I entered a driveway at an angle. At those times I heard creaking sounds. The dry PTFE spray on the rubber trim where the top contacted other trim or the body seemed to be the answer for 99% of it. The dry lube seems to last longer than other solutions.
John - file sent. Ralph - your address isn't working for me, do you have another?
If anyone translates this TSB into english please let me know.
I've lubricated my entire car with dry silicon & no help. My noises are coming from the plastic trim pieces on the hardtop.
Please note that there is a TSB about updating the old style hardtop mounts to newer ones. The new ones are much better and solve the loud clunking sounds. Do a search and you will find the TSB here and over on Renntech.
Best,
Tom
Remove the hard top. Now before you start to rip it apart, try this. Inside the slots where the top goes into over passenger and driver. Tighten up the alan type screws in there. Yes under a little cover. Then lightly smear o ring grease or vasoline around the entrance of all three acceptance slots along the top of the wind screen. The same smear on anything that sticks out on the hard top that goes into anything on the car. Then lightly smear the same amount on the actual posts at the rear of the hard top. They look like large springs with a point on them. Tighten anything you can find on the center of the hard top. Put the top back on and try it again. If that doesn't solve it then rip it apart haha.
Hi All,
This TSB bulletin (and many others) is available over at Renntech.org.
http://www.renntech.org/forums/tsbs/carrera/
Login and a Renntech membership is required, but if you are looking for a TSB, you should have a Renntech membership anyway.
So did you do as I suggested before tearing the top apart? It seemed to have worked for another poster MarioTM. The vibration must stem from where the top is laying onto or into.That's the front three parts and the two rear parts. Nothing else. The top does not touch anything else. Did you check for the small screws under the outside latch in front windscreen parts.
Is the plastic piece missing from the front latch. Is the latch pulling the top in enough. If that's loose then the top will rattle.