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Posting in our forum because we have a 10-15 year vantage point. Take out the outliers with really low milage, salvage title, anniversary editions, etc. I know it depends on how it's optioned out, coupe, S, Cab, PDK etc.. Don't get hung up on all that but when will a good 1/4 -1/3rd of the cars for sale hit the low to mid $50's. Seems like there's a good supply of cars now in the low/mid-$70's. Throw out a year. I'll start with 2018?
2 more years. 50% of purchase price at 5 years old. Starting in 2012 that makes 2017. Yes, I am a math wizard.
But when Porsche goes with an all turbo line up, all of the NA water cooled flat 6's will sky rocket in price and our cars and the 991's will all go up significantly in value. And we will no longer be considered the black sheep of the family and we can make fun of the 4 cylinder turbo guys. I can't wait.
So, the goal here is to wait three years and then see if your prediction made on 5/26/15 was accurate?
Fascinating. I'll check back daily.
My guess: The faulty valve stem class-action suit will be filed in mid 2017, and the resulting Internet paranoia will cause prices to settle right around $16K.
Lol,
We all know that 991's pricing will depend on if Jake can find any major faults on that motor and when Porsche will start bringing back fried egg or variation headlights. The 991 is slightly more oval and I suspect will be more oval in the following generations until finally it comes back full circle to the fried egg lights.
I think the 991 may be to the NA motors what the 993 is to the air-cooled. It's the last and that will carry something for those people that can't admit progress has benefits even if is in a different direction than they would like.
I think that will also keep the 991 prices up for a little while longer than usual too. I'd guess somewhere in the 2018-2020 range for the 991s to start getting into the current 997 price arena.
If you look at the mid-70s to mid-90s 911s, they were still the black sheep well after the evil satan spawned 996 came around. I think you'll see the same thing with the 996, but it will never be the big jump that the AC cars are seeing. For that particular bump I'd expect somewhere around the .2 of the 991 replacement's replacement. So 2025-2030 maybe?
By then most should have been taken out by rods, IMSBs, chain slapping, bore scoring, and god only knows what all the electronics will be doing by then... So maybe a completely stock working 996 will be a rare bird worth more than a 993TT
I think the 996.1 are going to start appreciating, the ones without PSM, T/C and aero coupes. These are more "raw" and "true", lightweight similar to a GT car faster than the other base C's and C4 996's, including .2's.
We are already seeing the GT 2 and 3's appreciating and the turbos seem to be starting too as well.
I feel the 997 I feel will be considered the last small and fun 911 though, I like the 991 but it really seems large and the interior is too far advanced for a "sports car"
The 991 will start depreciating by 2018 I think (50 and under). The 996 will hold value and might appreciate slightly, the 997's should bottom out at the low 20's in the next 3 years or so.
991s, like any car, depreciate the moment they are first sold by the dealer.
I assume your prediction is values less than $50K by 2018.
I think the depreciation of 991s will be similar to 996s and 997s in terms of percentage per year as posted above.
Lack of flat 6 engines in the next gen cars, and the state of the economy at a given time will have the most to do with values.
Bumping old thread, but relative to 996's sort of.
First off, those that predicted 991's would hit the $50's in 2018 seem to be correct. I've been finding some in the high 50's/ low 60's manual coupes...
I'm actually on the fence of buying a 996 for $20K and keeping it a few years vs buying a 991 for $60kish and keeping it 10yrs.
If you can fund a $60K car, consider the 996 GT3. The value shouldn't go down much, if at all, and will more likely go up if you are looking for something to keep for 10 or so years.
I�d love a GT3, but can�t justify it when I already have a dedicated log book race car. More looking for a daily driver.
Found a 996 w IMS DONE recently and a ton of other maintenance for $17k, having PPI done.
Will probably keep it a few few years and then get a 991 once they hit the 40�s
It appears to me that 996 prices have bottomed out. Asking prices are starting to creep up. I doubt they will go up much, since there are many available, but I don't see many offered in the 13k to 15k range anymore that don't have issues.
You let me know where that $60k GT3 is that isn't salvage title or had contact with a few walls at Sebring already, and I'll buy it. Even the 996TT is getting into that money range for the good ones. The 6 and 7 GT3s are my favorites right now but they are SO damned expensive compared to my 40th. And the 40th is SO much less expensive to buy/own.
I'm closing in on a decade with the 40th and still loving it. I would love to have a bit more performance and interior upgrade in the form of a 997 TT or GT3, or heck even a 991 I guess. But do I want to triple down my money to do so? Heck no.
There's a few out there that are in the $60's
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911
But, for the most part, per knfeparty... if you haven't looked at 996 GT3 prices in a while - don't.
I wouldn't buy a GT3 unless it was from a forum member. I guess that's just my mental insurance.
Yeah tell me about it...really wish I had bought a 6 GT3 when they were (very briefly) in the mid 40s! I love my 40th but that GT3 suspension, sunroof delete, and metzger really do it for me.
Yeah, you get a lot of bang for the buck out of these cars. I understand exactly where you are coming from.
I came from a 993 Carrera when I bought the GT3 with 5,500 miles on it. It's at about 128,300 miles now. I bought it as a driver's car, but I wanted something that would not drop in value like a rock and have a modern AC.
It's needed in Florida. I also wanted something a little more raw than a Carrera or Turbo.
So, I was looking at it as the long game. I'm happy to see the prices creeping up. When it hits what I paid for it I will be a happy camper, given the number of miles I have and the relatively low operational costs for a performance car. It would't surprise me in ten more years if the early GT3s go the same way as the 993 TTs have in price, but who can say.
I love the 991. Having owned both a 997 and a 991 since I sold my 996, I can tell you that they are both great cars. That said, I�d never go back to a 997 after owning a 991.
If you�re comparing a 991.1 base C2 to a 997.2 GTS, then that�s a different discussion. Overall, I find the 991 to be a significant upgrade over the 997 in virtually every way.
This thread is interesting; it�s never easy to predict future values!
I just bought a 991.1 C4S. I previously owned a 997.1 C2S and a 997.2 C2S. The engine sound in the cockpit of the 991 is much improved. The interior is much more modern and attractive to me. I also like the looks of the 991’s exterior much better. That’s about all that’s better in my opinion, The 997.2 is still a fantastic car though. If I couldn’t afford a 991 a 997.2 would be a great compromise.
That is a beautiful color GT3, but it's obviously seen a lot of driving and had 5 owners. At $65k, is it $40k (i.e. one extremely well-optioned 2011 cayenne turbo) better than my 40th AE, of which I am the 2nd owner? Not even close. I still want it, of course.
There are several improvements that like in the 991 compared to the 996 and 997. Here are a few, in no particular order:
- Ride quality. This improved from 996 to 997, and then from 997 to 991. The 991 chassis feels extremely stable and planted, without the occasional harshness that I experienced in my previous cars.
- Handling. The newer suspension trickery in the 991 really makes a difference. The 991 handling is the best that I’ve experienced in a road car.
- Interior comfort. The 991 is bigger inside, and it is more comfortable than previous models. The electronics are obviously more current, as you’d expect in a newer car. I realize that some people say that it’s too soft and more of a GT car, but that’s okay with me.
- Performance. This one is a bit tricky for me, because I’ve gone from 996 C4S to 997 Turbo to 991 Turbo S. Of course the 991 has better performance! That said, the 991 performance is simply unbelievable.
- Cabriolet design. The top in the 991 is a canvas covered hard top, and it looks much better closed than previous generations. It has an electronic wind screen that deploys at the push of a button. It’s a very nice design.
I have thoroughly enjoyed each 911 that I’ve owned. They are all special. I sometimes miss the analog feeling of the 996, and I definitely miss the 996 exhaust note. I occasionally miss the driving experience of the 997; big turbo lag followed by that “shot out of a cannon” acceleration. I’m sure there will come a time when I miss the 991 too.
It’s all good.
