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YOUR RESEARCHThinking of selling, need opinions on value
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FWIW, I saw a silver '99 on Craigslist a few weeks ago in California, with somewhat lower miles than the one near here, asking $15K WITH proof of LN installed IMSB.
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All of this was corroborated by my initial price negotiations with a local used car lot which had no maintenance records, and who use all the same market data sources.
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68k miles Arctic silver with black interior, 6 speed MT 3 owners, clean carafax and in excellent mechanical and overall condition.
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Mine is an early build date 4/98, so there is no value in replacing the IMS .
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FWIW, I saw a silver '99 on Craigslist a few weeks ago in California, with somewhat lower miles than the one near here, asking $15K WITH proof of LN installed IMSB.
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All of this was corroborated by my initial price negotiations with a local used car lot which had no maintenance records, and who use all the same market data sources.
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All of this was corroborated by my initial price negotiations with a local used car lot which had no maintenance records, and who use all the same market data sources.
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So here it is, thinking of taking a year off, loading up a motorcycle and hitting the road to parts unknown. Kind of a dream trip for me, from beautiful British Columbia to as far south in South America as I can make it on a dual sport motorcycle.
Selling off some toys and vehicles to fund this trip, my 996 possibly included. Car details are as follows-
04/98 build date, C2, all original Canadian car, stock except for fister moded mufflers, 133,933km (82000 miles for you yanks).
Been my daily driver summer car (parked usually mid October until the roads clear up April-May) since 2014.
Love the car, not sure if it's worth it to sell or just store it and have it to look forward to upon my return. What would be a decent price I could see if I sold is my question though.
I've had my 99 C2 listed around $20k for quite some time with no luck. Similar mileage and build date. Not sure if it's just the local market or if it's priced too high(I'm too attached to it to drop the price below that...it is a Porsche 911 after all). Fortunately I don't have to sell it, so there's no pressure to drop my price.
I bought a 996 on 12/15/17 for $17.8k from a dealer. 1999 c2 build date of 4//98 also. 68k miles Arctic silver with black interior, 6 speed MT 3 owners, clean carafax and in excellent mechanical and overall condition. There is a thread on this site tracking the purchase price of 996's. Just give this forum a quick search and you will find all the price data you could possibly want. Good luck with sale, your trip sounds awesome
This is hard for me to wrap my head around for 996s as I feel like prices have firmed up recently for non-GT. I don't follow the 997 market at all, but what kind of depreciation are we talking about from last year to now?
There are hundreds of them for sale as I type. I've followed the market for 1.5 years now. $15-$17K tops for what you describe. Depending on options and or you have something unique that someone just have to have.
Post some pictures and lets see what you have.
Sounds like an amazing trip you have planned!
I'd say the fact that you haven't got any calls at your price point is clear evidence that you're above where the local market is. Gradually drop the price by a thou to see where you start to get some activity. My guess is that's a 14/15kUSD$ car on a good day. If it's "worth" more than that to you then keep it if you don't need the money and storage is not a problem. Otherwise cut it loose for what you can get. Just my 2 cent (USD$).
Enjoy that adventure trip!
Another silver '99 with factory taco spoiler and 104K miles was offered near here a few weeks ago asking $14K but the salesman said they'd readily take $13K. It had been on the lot for months, then moved to another lot.
This was a trade in, and per NADA, Kelly, etc. 911 cars of that description only bring $6-9K. The dealer said they had no maintenance records when I asked about the IMSB, RMS, etc.. and was not too pleased when informed of the associated issues. I'll keep looking...
BTW, Mattie, what is your car's ISB and RMS situation? Fixed yet?
This is absurd. Go look for a used car for $13k and try to compare it to a 911. You won't find anything even close from a performance, quality and experience standpoint. Unless it's been beat to heck, sustained major damage or is not drive able, you shouldn't be able to purchase a 911 for such a low price.
It is absurd. The closest thing comparable to a 996 that I can think of is a 400HP 2006 Maserati Gran Sport for $20 to $22K. But the market is the market. For every $13,000 sale, there is someone that owned the 996, loved it and was willing to let it go at that price.
I just bought a Ferrari California last week. I actually don�t really have the indoor garage space for the 2001 996 MK1 Aerokit anymore, but I wouldn�t sell it for anything less than $25,000. because I love that car and that�s what it�s worth to me. So it looks like I will be keeping the 996 for a very long time.
Yeah, why do you think I have one! I have a list of $15k cars, and none of them could touch a 996, save for a great deal on a 135i. But the 135i might still depreciate further, whereas the 996 won�t.
It may be absurd
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from and emotional or bang-for-the-buck standpoint, but it is absolute truth from a market value standpoint: See with your own eyes on NADA, Kelly, Edmunds, etc. Go on ALL those online valuation sources and plug in '99 996 with 104K miles, base level options except the taco spoiler and off-brand 19" aftermarket wheels, and see for yourself what these cars bring at trade-in, in private sales, and at full dealer retail value. When you sell your car (if you're not a dealer, with attendant liability issues), it will be either via trade-in or via private sale. You may think your car is in exccellent condition, and it may well be,
but from a grading standpoint on NADA, etc., if you don't have full maintenance records including IMSB fix, etc., the best rating you can hope for is fair to average
... All of this was corroborated by my initial price negotiations with a local used car lot which had no maintenance records, and who use all the same market data sources.
I agree the beautiful 996 is a great car (except for daunting IMSB, RMS, etc. issues, which can be utterly devastating financially) and surely the best bang for the buck out there, AS LONG AS THE AFOREMENTIONED FAULTS ARE FIXED. That's why I'm looking for one. But, I just don't want to be blindsided, and when a dealer or other seller has no VERIFIABLE proof of fixing IMSB, etc. I'll just keep looking. FWIW, I saw a silver '99 on Craigslist a few weeks ago in California, with somewhat lower miles than the one near here, asking $15K WITH proof of LN installed IMSB. Since most sellers will negotiate somewhat (~5-10%?) lower sales price than their asking price, ~$14K sounds about right for a
fixed
car. Why would I pay more for an otherwise equivalent fixed 996, given the choice?
I sold my silver 99 C2 6MT in January 2017 for 18,000. Very similar to the Ops. Same rims and smokes side markers, black interior. It was a southern car it's entire life. Has the IMSB replaced by Flat Six at 59,000. It had somewhere around 81,000 when I sold it. Owned it for 5 years. Just regular wear items for service
Ignore the American prices , In BC , a good Local Canadian ( non US or Japanese import) 996.1 manual C2 should be $ 23-26K Canadian .
Scan in North Van had one similar to yours sell for $29k ( fresh clutch and ims bearing)
personally, I�d rather have an original Factory IMSB that wasn�t �fixed�. There�s been more than a few cases here where a �fixed� IMSB was just a quick patch to unload the car. For the 1999, the incidences for IMSB grenading on the dual row Factory IMSB is less than 3%. No way the �fixed� IMSB are that low when you factor in dishonest owners trying to dump the problem on to the next guy. But good luck to you in your search.
I agree with this, especially after watching the PCA video where Mr. Raby did such a fantastic job explaining the whole IMS situation. Mine is an early build date 4/98, so there is no value in replacing the IMS . And while Dash01 suggests that my absurd suggestion is superceded by market value, it's important to keep in mind that these market value numbers are based on a variety of factors and treat all cars equally effectively taking the brand and other performance factors out of the equation. I'm not trying to glorify the 996 or put it on an unrealistic pedestal, but at the end of the day, it is a Porsche 911, and these cars don't just keep going down in value. You will always find something cheap, or find a "deal" but for the most part you get what you pay for.
Correct, the cars themselves don�t fluctuate in value as much as the market conditions will. Case in point, I bought my Boxster S in the middle of January after the seller lost his job in 2008 (one of the worst times to sell a car quickly no doubt).
Those folks getting a good 996 in the $12-$15k range are paying less than the overall market, those buying 996s for $20-$25k are paying premiums, and the sweet spots are probably $16-$18.5k (based on my assumptions for dealer pricing in the Chicagoland market).
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