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It was the single longest step that I had when pulling my motor to swap in a new one.

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Check inside your cylinders

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It also allows you to check inside your cylinders.

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Use 1/4" drive socket

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I used a 1/4" drive socket with a universal and a long extension.

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Check inside your cylinders

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It also allows you to check inside your cylinders.

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Disconnect ac lines

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Or just disconnect the AC lines.

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Use 1/4” ratchet , extension and socket

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I removed mine on my 2000 C2 without a flashlight or borescope just using a 1/4” ratchet , extension and socket.

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It also allows you to check inside your cylinders.

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Disconnect ac lines

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Or just disconnect the AC lines.

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I removed mine on my 2000 C2 without a flashlight or borescope just using a 1/4” ratchet , extension and socket.

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Even using a universal.

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It was the single longest step that I had when pulling my motor to swap in a new one.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Wanted to ask if anyone has had luck removing thier ims bearing while only removing the easy to get to chain tensioners. I have a '99' carrera and can't seem to get to the right bank chain tensioner under the AC compressor. Are there any pointers on removing that tensioner? The rear bolt on the compressor is pretty much unaccesible, not allowing me to get AC out of the way. Any and all pointers are welcome. Thanks, Jumpy

POST 2Original post

Assuming your '99 is like my '04: To get at the rear AC compressor bolt (which is actually the forward-most bolt, with respect to the car), you must first remove a temp sensor that sits in a rubber grommet on the intake manifold between cylinders 5 & 6. You then remove the grommet, which allows you to insert a socket on a long-ish extension that reaches the head of the bolt. On my '04, the correct socket for all 3 AC compressor bolts is an external Torx type - '99 may be different. The grommet hole does not allow the extension to exactly align with the axis of the bolt, so it may be challenging to keep the socket on the bolt head while applying torque. A "wobble" type extension might help here. It will not be easy to see what you're doing, nor to get a hand in there and operate "by feel". Some time ago I bought one of these smartphone endoscope cameras , which can be a big help with poor-access jobs like this. It also allows you to check inside your cylinders. Once the AC compressor is out of the way and you have access to the cam chain tensioner, you'll need a 14mm hex bit ( like this ) to remove it.

POST 3Original post

I just removed the ac compressor few weeks ago. I used a 1/4" drive socket with a universal and a long extension. Then I put a cheater on it to crack it loose. It's bugger to get at, not looking forward to putting it back in. To take out my tensioner I grabbed a 9/16 coupling nut and it was a perfect fit in the tensioner head.

POST 4Original post

Once I got this figured out, it became relatively easy. At least on my '04. Remove the throttle body. Remove the temp sensor and grommet as suggested. Place a flashlight horizontally on the passenger side cylinder head, towards the front, aimed towards the compressor to illuminate the area. You will then be able to reach in and actually see what you are doing. A mirror might help too. Took me all day to remove the compressor on mine, about 15 minutes to reinstall it. All before I understood that on the later engines, you don't need to access that tensioner!

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks you guys for all the feed back. I like the walmart boroscope, may stop by there tomorrow. Seems all my '99' fasteneres are different than the '04' versions. Not that that is the problem. This fastener is a tough one as I only have a flashlight and a mirror. Difficult to hold everything and manuver the 13mm socket onto the cap screw. Kinda like cutting your hair while standing in front of the mirror. I'm thinking the quater inch drive might give a little more room to wiggle the socket into place. The socket keeps falling off the darn bolt, it is at such an angle. Even using a universal. I'm guessing that I should try to remove the tensioner on this year 996. I would hate to have to re-time the valve train. Last resort I will remove throttle body, might be the best option. Thanks again...

POST 6Original post

I removed mine on my 2000 C2 without a flashlight or borescope just using a 1/4” ratchet , extension and socket. Just remove the temp sensor and grommet, and you can remove it from there. It’s not at all complicated.

POST 7Original post

You don�t need to remove the tensioner under the ac compressor to do the IMS bearing. I left mine in - however I did manage to get the compressor off prior to learning it wasn�t necessary to remove. If you search for my IMS diy thread you can read about how I eventually got it off.

POST 8Original post

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But the IMS Solution instructions call for it to be removed.

POST 9Original post

I just did an IMS install this weekend, On the 5-chain motors I don't believe it's necessary to pull all 3 tensioners, I locked bank 1 (driver side) pulled that tensioner and the one for the IMS, had no problem pulling my dual row bearing.

POST 10Original post

That AC bolt is a pain. It was the single longest step that I had when pulling my motor to swap in a new one. I took a pick of how I got it out, it's in my thread here: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post13853981

POST 11Original post

Quotes source posts: 14778053, 14778877, 13853981

I believe this is correct. Yes, the trick is to remove the throttle body and the T plenum first then your left hand can get behind the a/c compressor easily. The T plenum needs some fiddling to reinstall but it will be worth it.

POST 12Original post

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You're right, it does. I can only speak to my personal experience. I spoke with an M96 expert and was told it wasn't necessary - the success of my install confirmed that. I don't however know 3 or 5 chain models would make a difference. Better to be safe than sorry. You could always call LN and ask them.

POST 13Original post

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With a 5-chain, you are most likely ok leaving the bank 2 tensioner in place. The 3-chain engine is easier to skip timing relative to the 5-chain. Timing should be verified after the IMSB retrofit regardless.

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 13853981

Or just disconnect the AC lines. Ideally you capture the discharge but if you don't, it is the equivalent to burning about 150 gallons of gas. So not catastrophic but not something you'd want to do everyday. There may be legal ramifications for not capturing it that I'm not aware as well.

POST 15Original post

I’m changing out the IMS bearing on my 3-chain engine sometime in the new few weeks. Can someone confirm that the bank-2 tensioner under the AC compressor can be left in place? I have it in my notes that it doesn’t need to be removed, but this thread has me second guessing myself.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 14780195

You are most likely ok.

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 14780585

Thanks. I saw your original response. Everything referenced 5-chain as okay, but haven't seen 3-chain referenced.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread. I will try once again to remove without taking apart the intake plenum. If the intake plenum is removed would that facilitate the removing and replacement of my broken oil fill pipe as well? Anyway, thanks again for the posts..

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 14779463

I know in PA it is a $10,000 fine.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 14781068

The IMS is supported by the oil pump on the opposite end of the IMSB. You can see that when the bank 2 tensioner is kept in place, the bank 2 timing chain tends to pull the IMS to the right but such movement will be restricted by the oil pump. In contrast on the IMSB end, the bank 1 timing chain will pull the IMS to the left (movement normally restricted by the IMSB flange). If you remove the IMSB flange without removing the bank 1 tensioner, you will find the IMS off center to the left and you are screwed. When the engine is parked at TDC with cam lock tool installed in bank 1 cams, there is very little tendency for the 4 cams to rotate. There's some but it's minimal and it won't be enough to rotate the IMS.

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