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life is much easier if u like to fool with wheel changes/stance etc etc etc
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Since I'll be replacing SOME of the lug bolts, I figured I'd just replace them all - but studs and nuts are actually cheaper than a full set of new lug bolts, so that's another reason I'm considering the switch to studs.
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I have the wheels off a lot as well - changing tires, brakes, etc.
Set 10mm longer than necessary so i can fool around
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I ordered a set 10mm longer than necessary so I can fool around with some of the narrower spacers...
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Since I'll be replacing SOME of the lug bolts, I figured I'd just replace them all - but studs and nuts are actually cheaper than a full set of new lug bolts, so that's another reason I'm considering the switch to studs.
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Took if for a test drive, everything was perfect - and then as I was rechecking the torque values to make sure nothing worked loose, my torque wrench RUDed* all over the driveway.
Use double-nut process, although i will probably have
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The set of studs I got has a hex opening in the tip so they can be driven in without using the double-nut process, although I will probably have to resort to that for the two holes with imperfect threads.
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So...some new brake pads will be showing up this weekend. Two of the rear lug bolts had been slightly cross-threaded by previous owner. It hasn't gotten worse over the past two years (I always ensure the lug bolts go into the same holes on that wheel to keep from boogering anything else up), but I'd like to correct the issue.
One option is to buy new lug bolts and chase the threads in the holes. I've been reluctant to do this thus far because I don't want to risk removing any material that might potentially leave one or two bolts in holes that are slightly too large.
I've also been thinking about converting to studs; since threadlocker is used when installing the studs, I'd be a little less concerned about chasing the threads.
Since I'll be replacing SOME of the lug bolts, I figured I'd just replace them all - but studs and nuts are actually cheaper than a full set of new lug bolts, so that's another reason I'm considering the switch to studs.
Anyone have any insight about (a) chasing the threads on the hub, or (b) converting to studs and lugnuts?
Cannot provide any insight, however, under those conditions I would opt for the studs and lugnuts. One time in and your done. Chasing the threads is just going to enlarge the hole, not very much, but enough that you might have that on your mind going forward.
I know you've already gotten the studs but another plus is the that as long as the studs you get are long enough, you can try different width spacers without having to get different length wheel bolts.
I have the wheels off a lot as well - changing tires, brakes, etc.
I've had both studs and lugs - but I learned technique from the guys that do it all the time... and I find lugs just as easy, and I kind of prefer it in a way. Sounds weird - but when you get it down...lugs are really not a problem.
I never had an issue with the lugs - my only real reason for making the swap is the issue with the boogered threads. By switching to the studs, I'll eliminate the issue (or at least make it a non-issue for a while)...
do the speed bleeders save any time?
You still have to open them one at a time, right?
With a motive, there is no pedal pumping, just open the bleeder and .....
I got a set of 14x1.5 taps on Amazon for like $15. Stud install is easy, but tedious because of the double nut thing. I ended up buying a large single nut at Ace hardware for this.
If you need extra lugs, I have a few...
-td
Thanks for the offer! If I get fed up with the stud install, I may come knocking.
The set of studs I got has a hex opening in the tip so they can be driven in without using the double-nut process, although I will probably have to resort to that for the two holes with imperfect threads.
That is a respectable set of lug bolts - and I like your stash of tire plug kits as well.
I see your security lug bolts are where they belong as well - in a drawer, not on the car.
Well, the mailman has come and gone, and I can now offer the following correction:
The
online photo of the
set of studs I got has a hex opening in the tip so
I assumed that
they can be driven in without using the double-nut process
In reality, the end of each stud is rounded with no opening for a hex, torx, or any other driver bit - so I'll be double-nutting it after all.
That sounds much dirtier than it will be in reality.
Studs installed today - piece of cake. The hardest thing was getting the double-nut loose after torquing the studs down. Even the two holes with the semi-boogered threads went smoothly.
Took if for a test drive, everything was perfect - and then as I was rechecking the torque values to make sure nothing worked loose, my torque wrench RUDed* all over the driveway. I took this as a sign it was time to stop working in the garage for the day, so I put it all back together and called it quits.
*Rapid unscheduled disassembly
Follow-up: After a day for the thread locker to cure and a hundred miles or so of driving, I removed a couple of the new lug nuts to see if the Loctite was doing its job - and I'm happy to report that each one I tested resulted in only a lug nut; I did not find any issues with the studs backing out or any other indications that the job was anything but a success. Woot!
Had I just wanted to ditch the lug bolts, this would have been a lateral move; since it also eliminated the cross-threading issue and will make R/R of the pax rear wheel much easier from now on, I consider this an upgrade. Very happy with the Pelican kit.
Note to anyone who does this: Make sure you do a great job wrapping the lug nuts you use for installing the studs. I boogered up the finish on two of 'em - but since they're not visible at all, no big deal.
Off to order a few spacers for the rear - now that I have the extra stud length, might as well put it to work.
Update: After less than two years, three out of the five studs on my driver-side rear wheel failed while I was driving approx. 45MPH on surface streets. I heard one let go and immediately felt the car get screwy.
I have no idea if this is common, uncommon, or a completely freak occurrence, but...it's a data point. *shrug*.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...one-wheel.html
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