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A salvage decision is based on a sliding scale of repair cost to FMV.
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Frex; if this car were worth $22,000 FMV, then to trigger a salvage decision the repair cost would need to be between $11,000 and $16,000 depending on the sale value and salvage value of the vehicle.
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Once they started to do the work, the $2800 turned into $8K because they needed to replace the bumper instead or repairing it, and had to paint all of the way up to the doors to get the paint to match, which meant they had to take out the windows, etc.
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With the blue book value of these cars being low, and the prices to replace pieces having the word Porsche stamped on them, it is actually very easy for these cars to be considered a total loss with very minor damage.
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Frex; if this car were worth $22,000 FMV, then to trigger a salvage decision the repair cost would need to be between $11,000 and $16,000 depending on the sale value and salvage value of the vehicle.
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Once they started to do the work, the $2800 turned into $8K because they needed to replace the bumper instead or repairing it, and had to paint all of the way up to the doors to get the paint to match, which meant they had to take out the windows, etc.
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With the blue book value of these cars being low, and the prices to replace pieces having the word Porsche stamped on them, it is actually very easy for these cars to be considered a total loss with very minor damage.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/332262514762
Ran across this on eBay. It's an 03 Coupe with 40k. It was in a minor accident and they threw a replacement bumper on it. It's a salvage title. I was thinking someone here might be in the market for a track car and as long as the damage was minor it might make a good base.
The seller is a well known rebuilder of M96 engines. Fairly or unfairly, he has been involved in a number of (*ahem*) heated Rennlist exchanges over the past few years.
I don't know the man, and have neither experience with his work nor opinion regarding same. But he does seem to be quite the lightning rod for spirited discussion.
It just dawn on me when I was looking at this car that I think the rear of a 996 is better looking than a 997. If this car was in a light accident, why is there a salvage title? Shouldn't this be a major accident?
to me a salvaged title says the cost of repair is worth more than the cost of the car. Surely that is no miner accident on a 2003 with only 40,000 miles on the clock. That's more like a major accident.
+1 ... auction listing said it was salvaged due to front end body damage. That's possible, as the cost of a new front clip could easily exceed the threshold to total a car. OTOH, there could be all sorts of trouble lurking. Without a lot of detail and a good inspection, there's simply no way to know.
That's the right idea, but the values are off a bit. A salvage decision is based on a sliding scale of repair cost to FMV. Starts around 50% and goes up to 75% or so.
Frex; if this car were worth $22,000 FMV, then to trigger a salvage decision the repair cost would need to be between $11,000 and $16,000 depending on the sale value and salvage value of the vehicle. The adjuster would look at it, total up about $12k in costs and say 'its a salvage'. I would not pay more than $12-13k for this example. A similar car without salvage title and significant damage can be had for $18-22k.
The description states, in so many words, that they put a used bumper on the front, but the underside damage has not been repaired. Seems like a high price for an example with a salvage title that has not been repaired. As far as using it as a track car, I would be leery that the front suspension is out of line due to the body damage. It could require a lot of work to get it right.
With the blue book value of these cars being low, and the prices to replace pieces having the word Porsche stamped on them, it is actually very easy for these cars to be considered a total loss with very minor damage.
Shortly after purchasing my 996 I was rear ended by a land cruiser going about 3mph. Cracked a tail light, cracked the aero kit wing (2" crack), and spider cracked the bumper. The initial estimate was $2800.
Once they started to do the work, the $2800 turned into $8K because they needed to replace the bumper instead or repairing it, and had to paint all of the way up to the doors to get the paint to match, which meant they had to take out the windows, etc.
The insurance rep told me if they knew it was going to be $8k when they started it would have been a total loss. Which I of course would have bought back in a second, because other than some spider cracks on the bumper and a 2" crack on the aero kit there was no damage that effected how the car performed. The only thing that would have had to have been fixed is the tail light which was $200, and even that was questionable since it was a chip on the bottom left hand portion of the light, not anywhere near the sealed area of the lens.
My point being, if you know what caused the salvage title, it may not be a big deal. I made a point to take a ton of pictures of the damage on my car, in case I ever sell it, I have proof of what occurred if it pops up on a Car Fax.
same here. you need the details. It could have been a 15k hit to the front, and the car is worth 25k, so they write it off instead of fixing it as that makes more sense financially to them. Something similar happened with my RX7...was cheaper to buy anew/used one that it was to fix it so they wrote it off. that car is still on the road today and looking great.
In Illinois a vehicle gets a salvage title if the repairs are more than 25% of the value of the vehicle. With the cost of repairs that means a lot of cars here get salvage titles.
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