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YOUR RESEARCHInterior trim pieces; Original or aftermarket?
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Top part of center stack is occupied by a horrendous 2-din installed by PO, but the original pieces has the same grey pattern as the doors.
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Well, at least we know the head gasket story is bs� more likely a cracked head, which wasn�t too uncommon.
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My best advice moving forward, is to contact Porsche Zentrum and see if they can give you some insight to the special order model and maybe advice on replacing the trim pieces if needed.
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Normally, when using a double DIN headunit, the AC unit mounts on the lower slot like shown in the picture.
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My best advice moving forward, is to contact Porsche Zentrum and see if they can give you some insight to the special order model and maybe advice on replacing the trim pieces if needed.
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I purchased a MY2000 996 C2 last year, and i am looking for some answers regarding options and trim pieces.
So the PO just noted that it was a 50 years anniversary edition, but branding in the car shows that it is more specifically a 50 years anniversary model for Porsche Zentrum Munchen (Established in 1950 i presume).
This brings me to the point of the post: Aside from the 50 Jahre Porsche Zentrum Munchen-branded steering wheel, gear **** and door sills, the car is full of trim pieces in this weird stone marbly grey colored paint.
Instrument cluster shroud, door cubbies and handles, gear selector, handbrake lever and the narrow passenger side dashboard trim strip is painted. Even the entire center console stack, including the face of the original Becker CDR-220 head unit is painted this way.
Note that my car also has a 09991 option code from the Sonderwunch (Special request) Programme.
I did not think any more of this after i bought the car, as i figured the 00'ies were full of strange interior wood grain-esque trim.
Only now after browsing the forums for a while and looking at a bunch of 996 interiors i realized that i have not stumbled upon anyone with similar interior trim.
This makes me question wether the paint is aftermarket or not, so i turn to the forum to see if anyone has any knowledge of these 50 Jahre Porsche Zentrum Munchen models or others who might have clues regarding this marbled grey interior trim.
Any Ideas?
Branded steering wheel, 50 Jahre PZM logo.
I don't know anything about this particular model...but...the fit and finish of what you have shown is not very "Porsche". The gaps and overall fit reeks of aftermarket parts. Sorry...
Center console surround is grey leather look. Top part of center stack is occupied by a horrendous 2-din installed by PO, but the original pieces has the same grey pattern as the doors.
I think you are right about the hydro-dipping
Should have noted that the fitment of the AC-controls is a results of the PO moving it to the lower center console and the pieces not fitting properly.
Regarding the door cubby i believe one of the previous owners were a tad in the heavy side as the hinge has a lot of slack. Passenger side is better.
Either way, the trim piece near the door handle has a tendency to pop out of place, so you might be right...
I don't believe it is an official anniversary model from porsche, but something more of a commission from Porsche Zentrum Munchen celebrating 50 years.
Seems like the only logical explanation for the 50 Jahre Porsche Zentrum Munchen branded steering wheel, gear selector and door sill.
That being said, it is so obscure that i cannot find anything online, which again brings me here.
What we know... this is definitely not an ME model because of the lack of the unique model interior features like the unique caramel brown leather with maple accents and exterior Chromaflair Violet paint. Oh and you can't forget the millennium edition number plate located on the bat wing. (see attached) We also know it's not an AE model which was released on the MY04 996.
IMHO, the
09991 option code is the best clue we have. It appears a special order model by Porsche Zentrum of M�nchen to celebrate their own anniversary not related to Porsche AG in general.
Those trim pieces don't match up because the owner probably didn't take the time to order the correct ones if even available. I would have just kept it original setup with the CDR-220 or go with a single DIN Porsche classic radio. Normally, when using a double DIN headunit, the AC unit mounts on the lower slot like shown in the picture. An upper shelve is ordered when this change is made, but the problem could have been the lack of trim pieces to match the existing overlays and the previous owner just made the best of it. Good news, you could alway put it back to the original but you will lack the upper CD holder that had the special overlay wood material.
My best advice moving forward, is to contact Porsche Zentrum and see if they can give you some insight to the special order model and maybe advice on replacing the trim pieces if needed.
It is a pretty interesting distinct model, made/sold exclusively for Porsche Center Munich.
Found this History on the Porsche Center at Munich ,;;
History of the Porsche Center Munich: 1923 The beginning - importer of Harley Davidson, Triumph, Northon and Ariel. 1934 Opening of an Opel car dealership. 1950 1st dealer contract with Porsche. 1952 Porsche is included in the sales program. 1969 Opening of the Porsche Center Munich at Schleibingerstrasse 8. 1971 Reconstruction and expansion of the sales room and workshop. 1973 Opening of the MOTORAMA multi-brand vehicle exhibition.The Porsche Center is also moving into the new exhibitor rooms and establishing the new “Porsche Club Carrera”, an exclusive showroom on Rosenheimer Berg. 1975 The Porsche Center in Munich records the most vehicle deliveries in Europe. 1991 Founding of MAHAG Sportwagen-Zentrum GmbH. 1997 New building on Schleibingerstrasse. 2002 Expansion of the used car sales area
by approx. 2,000 m�. 2009 renovation/expansion of the workshop. 2014 Reconstruction/expansion of the workshop and adaptation to the current corporate architecture of Porsche..
Over the history of Automobiles there has been quite a few similar "limited edition" models that were creations/idea's that originated from high volume dealers or dealer groups ( like The Greater Chicago Area Dealers Association ect.) where the dealer(s) would go to the manufacture to request a special edition model to sell in their area exclusively, like the 1966-1968 "California Special Mustangs" and the "Colorado High Country Special Mustangs" that took some Shelby parts ( rear spoiler ,tail lights, scoops, strips ect) and any power train that was available, and make limited edition models, that are the most sought after and rare Mustangs ( other than the all Shelby, Shelby Mustangs)...There has been many other less sought after " Dealer inspired " special editions that are nothing more than strips and decals that didn't inspire or fare as well as the California Specials/High Country Specials, but that's the way the game is played...
Your Special model was obviously inspired by the Dealer to Celebrate their 50 years ( Jahre) of doing business as one of the oldest Porsche Dealers in exsistence. What would be interesting is how big a part did "Porsche" play in the actual design/manufacture, and/or who"s $$ was used to create it + how many were made ?
I would assume that as/if all models of 996 become valuable, this special edition will be a cut above...but who knows .....
I thought that the 09991 code just meant the car was equipped with some X-coded options. Those option would be noted on the tag on the underside of the frunk. If you have some X-coded items on the tag, it fairly easy to find out what those option are.
Not necessarily, my car has about a dozen X-code options, but no 09991 code tied to it. From what I understand, 09991 could've meant just about anything depending on who you were and what you were willing to spend.
Yeah, this is exactly what i am trying to do now, remove the 2-DIN and revert back to stock look with a bluetooth dongle hooked up to the CDR-220(It does not have the CD changer). I reckon the trim pieces will fit together properly when rearranged as intended.
I do actually have the original CD storage unit, and it is coated in the exact same fashion as the stereo and AC control unit
As some people here have suggested i think course of action would be to contact Porsche Zentrum Munchen directly to see if they can provide any info on these models.
I might have been somewhat optimistic about stumbling upon someone on here familiar with these models
@Erlihovd
In the meantime, tell us more about this car and how you acquired it. Where are you located? Europe, US, Canada???
Lastly, could you post more images of the exterior and interior of the car and if you don't have a problem with it, please post an image of the option sticker under the frunk bonnet. This would be helpful for many people, like in your case, get rare special order cars. Thanks!
Gladly
As mentioned, the car is a MY2000 Carrera 2, (clear indicators front, rear and sides, E-gas)
I purchased the car last August off of a fellow norwegian, who before that purchased it from a german guy (according to the warranty booklet his last name was Mezger funnily enough), and imported it.
That makes me the third owner, or fourth if you count Porsche Zentrum Munchen who actually owned and kept the car until 2005 (Again according to warranty booklet).
Previous owner experienced a head gasket failure (I'm told) and the engine was rebuilt with a brand new short block (insurance paid most of it, i have the reciepts and it was
pricy
)
New engine done less than 5000km's. The car has allegedly never been winter driven.
The option sticker looks as follows:
Codes being:
C00 - German car
030 - Sport suspension, -10mm
X71 - Alu-look instrument faces
139 - Seat heating, left
288 - Headlamp washer
340 - Seat heating, right
375 -
2-way electrical sports seat, left
376 -
2-way electrical sports seat, right
424 - CD compartment
436 - 3-spoke steering wheel
476 -
PSM Porsche Stability Management
490 - Basic sound system
498 -
Without model designation on rear end
601 - Litronic (xenon) headlamps
618 -
Preparation for telephone installation
650 - Sun-moon-roof
659 - Board computer
695 - CD-radio Becker Porsche CDR-22
983 - Leather front seats
And finally the mysterious 09991 code.
The only clues i hav picked up as to the contents of the 09991 is the presumably hydro-dipped interior trim, 50 Jahre PZM branded interior pieces, two tone leather front seats, monochrome porsche emblem on steering wheel, vibrant red porsche text logo inserts in door sills, exclusion of rear wiper and BBS Sport Classic II wheels from factory. I was also told by the PO that the car had the factory sports exhaust, but i am yet to confirm this. Anyone know the simplest way to identify the factory sports exhaust system? (XLF option code)
My car is currently in winter storage, and i have surprisingly few photos of it, but i will take some more the next time i check in on it
Here is a preview:
Wow! Wouldn't it be super cool if this car was originally owned by the Hans Mezger family? Hans Mezger passed away about 4 years ago. This car doesn't have his engine that is found in the GT3, but still super cool to learn the history of the car. At this point, I would suggest you to make a summer trip down to Porsche Zentrum Munchen and meet the current owner/manager. Maybe they'll open up about the car. They might even have some original photographs. You might just have a gem here!
Interesting that the car was Titled to the Dealership for 5 years ( then to a " Mezger"!) .. it may have been the pride and joy of the dealer GM and may be a "one of one"...
That sounds like an amazing ide for a summer road trip! I'll get in touch with them and hear if they have any info or cool memorabilia related to the car
Agreed, and all the way to 2005 as well, long after the 996.2 had hit market, and even after the introduction of the 997! Now i just have to hope that someone has worked at Porsche Zentrum Munchen since the early 2000's
09991 could be as simple as the X71 option on your list. All "X" options were customer or dealer specified over the standard order template and generated a 09991 and possibly 09992 internal codes. My understanding is 09991 indicated options which could be installed on the regular production line and 09992 was for options that required the car be diverted from the regular line to a separate facility for installation. If your unique trim pieces were factory installed I would expect to see 09992 on your tag meaning it was done at Werks 1. Also, monochrome emblems on both the steering wheel & key heads were equipped on all MY2000 cars (Boxster's & 911's) to commemorate the millennium. Hopefully some conversation with the dealer will help clear this up!
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Previous owner experienced a head gasket failure (I'm told) and the engine was rebuilt with a brand new short block (insurance paid most of it, i have the reciepts and it was
pricy
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Well, at least we know the head gasket story is bs� more likely a cracked head, which wasn�t too uncommon. In any case, seems like you may have quite a gem there! Please do tell the rest of the story when you get it! Good luck with the car!
Try Sonderwunsch as tag and add M�nchen and Munich.
If it was first registered to the Porsche Zentrum, it could have been a demonstrator and/or loaner car.
Hahah yeah, seemed pretty drastic for a head gasket
But either way that leaves me with a brand new engine! Will try to gather some info and update the thread with some more photos of the car
