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The filter and oil had never been changed after the repair.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?
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Check more debris."

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I would rate that a solid "change the filter again in a month and check for more debris."

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Replace then drove 1k miles

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The car had a Ims bearing replaced then drove 1k miles then stored in 2013.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Check more debris."

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I would rate that a solid "change the filter again in a month and check for more debris."

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace filter again in a month

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I would rate that a solid "change the filter again in a month and check for more debris."

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace filter element

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Note that you can change the filter element on the 996 without changing the oil; you'll lose less than a quart instead of the full 9 quarts.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?
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Check more debris."

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I would rate that a solid "change the filter again in a month and check for more debris."

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace after the

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The filter and oil had never been changed after the repair.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace filter again in a month

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I would rate that a solid "change the filter again in a month and check for more debris."

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace filter element

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Note that you can change the filter element on the 996 without changing the oil; you'll lose less than a quart instead of the full 9 quarts.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace plastic pads

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I will change the plastic pads when I do the IMSB in a few months.

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Replace results

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He's a Porsche enthusiast, but a little concerned about some recent oil change results...

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace then drove 1k miles

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The car had a Ims bearing replaced then drove 1k miles then stored in 2013.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?

Replace with a few of those

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If these are the tiny, less than 1mm foil-like sparkly bits, each of us has done an oil change with a few of those.

shiny bits found. Should I be concerned?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have found about 6 shiny bits/shavings of non-ferrous metal on the outside of my oil filter. Need I be concerned? I am pretty sure it was the outside as the oil flows from the outside to in correct? Thank you

POST 2Original post

Correct. Flows from the outside in. I changed my oil this past weekend and found at least 4 small flakes of what appeared to be aluminum. They varied in size, but the biggest was about one mm across. I am not worried about it. I found a few dozen small bits of plastic that are most likely from the chain guides. I am more worried about those. I will change the plastic pads when I do the IMSB in a few months.

POST 3Original post

We found some shiny bits also, car is in the shop for a tentioner repair and to investigators of the shiny bits are called into action, O Boy. I hope it's residual from the ims failure in 2013

POST 4Original post

^^^I would hope there was not any debris left from an IMSB failure in 2013. If there is, it's likely that it's done a whole lot of damage of it's own in the meantime. You should be doing oil analysis and looking for signs of bearing damage (copper/lead etc...)

POST 5Original post

Without knowing the size of the parts, it's tough to advise. If these are the tiny, less than 1mm foil-like sparkly bits, each of us has done an oil change with a few of those. It's when your filter starts to look like a Christmas ornament that you know you've waited too long and now your pooch is good and truly screwed.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes smaller than 1mm shiny non-magnetic bits. Does it matter if they are non magnetic or not?

POST 7Original post

Yes. If they are aluminum, they can be leftover milling debris from the original machining. If they are ferrous/magnetic, the material is being shed from a part IN the engine, not the case. Any collection of ferrous material larger than the magnetic "sludge" you normally find in tiny amounts on your magnetic oil drain plug is cause for further attention, if not alarm. Incidentally, the correct filter and spin-on adapter can ensure that ALL of those little flecks stay on the dirty side of the filter. It's not fun to imagine where a little metal bit like that might find its way if allowed to roam freely. Here's what an "OH MY GOD, FORGET EVERYTHING I'VE EVER SAID AND CALL RABY" oil filter looks like: And the world-famous IMS glitter money shot:

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Nope, does not look anything like that. The flecks are only on the dirty side. Will post a picture later today. maybe 5-6 bits on dirty side only

POST 9Original post

I would rate that a solid "change the filter again in a month and check for more debris." Note that you can change the filter element on the 996 without changing the oil; you'll lose less than a quart instead of the full 9 quarts. A single aluminum shaving getting chewed up by the oil pump will produce at least that many of the sparkly flecks, and in this case, the flecks were stuck in the filter - so everything worked the way it was supposed to.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Nothing on magnetic plug or in oil.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Will do. That seems to be the going advice. If there is more debris, what could it be? Not the dreaded IMS I hope?

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 14255135

The car had a Ims bearing replaced then drove 1k miles then stored in 2013. The filter and oil had never been changed after the repair. I found a couple aluminum bits in filter, nothing in the oil

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 14255249

Wow! Now that is scary looking.

POST 14Original post

Those are worst-case (well, bad-case. Worst-case is when daylight goes through the engine, right)...ANY amount of metal beyond the very occasional specklet(tm) or two of aluminum is enough to certainly watch carefully...

POST 15Original post

Lots of useful information on this thread alone. Maybe I should save up for a 997.2.

POST 16Original post

Here's a great thread where I got my sig file image from.... I was all worried when I found these particles (they ended being non metallic): Then I showed how I looked at it under my 20x microscope: And 5CHN3LL put this together for me: I'd like to introduce y'all to my new buddy, Mike Rowskop. He's a Porsche enthusiast, but a little concerned about some recent oil change results... I've now looked closely at my Audi S8 and my son's 2010 Mini Cooper S8 filters and I find basically the same things in them. Pretty normal. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...in-filter.html

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Here are a couple of pictures of the filter.

POST 18Original post

[QUOTE=Paul Waterloo;14255790]Here's a great thread where I got my sig file image from.... Hilarious!!

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 14255995

That doesn't look too bad to me. Then again, I'm not an expert in this field.

POST 20Original post

Looks pretty normal. You need a 50x microscope for some real look at those pieces!

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