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Recommend spin-on filter as open bearings will be more susceptible

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If you choose an open bearing, I would recommend the spin-on filter as open bearings will be more susceptible to debris in the engine oil.

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Replace by another oem dual, sucks we can't purchase it

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I have dual which I would like to replace by another OEM dual, sucks we can't purchase it from dealer.

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Use cartridge filters if this is the case

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I am a bit amazed that Porsche, BMW, and other high end cars use cartridge filters if this is the case.

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If you choose an open bearing, I would recommend the spin-on filter as open bearings will be more susceptible to debris in the engine oil.

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I have dual which I would like to replace by another OEM dual, sucks we can't purchase it from dealer.

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Use cartridge filters if this is the case

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I am a bit amazed that Porsche, BMW, and other high end cars use cartridge filters if this is the case.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I want to do the IMS while I am elbow deep in this Hog, but am already pretty deep in the wallet. The factory 2 row has lasted 108k without signs of failure. Is there anything wrong with walking into the Porsche Dealer and buying a brand new dual row bearing? Has anyone done this? Or is it just dumb?

POST 2Original post

I do not believe Porsche sells the IMS bearing as a separate item.

POST 3Original post

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Isn't the Pelican bearing essentially the stock one without seals?

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 13145497

The pelican is made by LN as a economic option over the LN branded bearing. IMO if you're cost concise and can do it yourself it would suite.

POST 5Original post

No, the Pelican IMS kit is a single-row NSK bearing with an upgraded (stronger) center stud, along with a new o-ring and flange seal. The bearing is a rubber sealed unit. (It utilizes spacers to fit in the double-row bearing engines.) It's basically an OEM replacement bearing, which Porsche doesn't offer. The single-row bearing I just removed from my 98k mile car was also an NSK unit from the factory, and BTW was in perfect condition. YMMV, of course...

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Function-first is right. IMO, no matter what you do, don't get a single row bearing, which has about half the load rating of your dual row. I can think of at least a few choices: LN ceramic dual row, FVD sealed steel dual row and LN roller bearing. If you choose an open bearing, I would recommend the spin-on filter as open bearings will be more susceptible to debris in the engine oil.

POST 7Original post

Just curious and a real question. Why is the spin on filter better than the cartridge filter ? Marc

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Ok, I'll bite. It's better because it has no bypass valve (with the correct filter) so all the oil is filtered at all times. The stock filter has a spring loaded bypass valve at the bottom of the filter. If the valve opens (weak spring or thick oil at cold start up) all the crud at the bottom of the filter will be sent directly to the main bearings and cams, and the rest of the engine.

POST 9Original post

Thank you very much for that explanation. I have heard that before on other forums. I do know that all spin on filters do indeed have an oil bypass valve set to between 10-12 psi in case the filter gets clogged or something like that. I can only assume that the stock Porsche filter setup has a lower pressure relief in it or something that lets oil bypass at startup. I am a bit amazed that Porsche, BMW, and other high end cars use cartridge filters if this is the case. I of course am no expert on oil filters just a lowly A&P mechanic trying to learn more about this particular car. Marc

POST 10Original post

What you said is true in general. In this case though, the filter is napa gold 1042, which happens to have no bypass valve. http://wiki.hurstolds.org/NAPA_Gold_1042.htm More info here http://lnengineering.com/products/ot...ayman-911.html

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No, its made by LN

POST 12Original post

Regardless of who makes the bearing (btw, I don't think LN manufacture any bearings themselves), First-function is correct about the important technical details. See posts #6 and #9 by Pelican here: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/boxst...ml#post6887538

POST 13Original post

Sure, I agree that they do not manufacturer bearings themselves

POST 14Original post

RRTEC, function first for me too. I have dual which I would like to replace by another OEM dual, sucks we can't purchase it from dealer.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So am I understanding there is no dual row replacement option.

POST 16Original post

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http://lnengineering.com/products/im...r-my97-01.html

POST 17Original post

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Exactly I'm thinking on just popping the seal on mine

POST 18Original post

FVD sells a replacement dual row for $495 list but not ceramic as far as I know. They used to give 10% off to forum members .

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 13150176

SKF part number for the dual row bearing is: SKF 3204A-2RS1T9/MT33 You will also need a suitable spirolock to hold the bearing in place once the old one has been extracted.

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That is some valuable piece of information. Thank you!

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Wow, seriously that will work? Awesome!! Where can I find a spiral lock? I'm sorry for the ignorance not sure what that is.

POST 22Original post

A Spirolox retaining ring is what you are looking for. I can't give you the measurements as I haven't pulled my IMS out yet. If you find out the measurements please post them up. \Cheers.

POST 23Original post

The LN website speaks for itself: http://lnengineering.com/index.php/products/ims.html First up - dual row ceramic replacement bearing

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